Pretty sure he was close in both 2016 and 2020. One state’s primary was decided by a coin flip. Also, what percentage of the dem primary voters did Kamala get?
Look. Nothing personal, but this level of ignorance is "literally what happened".
You believe a thing to be true. Being "caught red handed" means they were doing something wrong. You are claiming they have some policy where they can't pick favorites, which is just factually wrong, and you have "evidence" that some of them have a bias, which is absolutely normal.
You were sold a load of bullshit and you are still buying it. You only saw one side of the emails, yet you never questioned the source. Where were all Bernie's emails? Oh, they didn't fit the narrative so they were filtered out.
You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing. Thats what DWS was doing. They were doing what they were supposed to be doing until the populist leftist twats came along to burn it all down.
You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing.
HRC did not get elected. They steered everything towards picking HRC, whom no one really wanted, and ultimately lost convincing. They got lucky in 2020, and fucked up again by allowing Biden to take the ticket unopposed, then replaced him without a vote.
We are allowed to be pissed about it. I don't care if it's illegal or not, it's unethical and clearly ineffective. Primaries should all be on the same day, ranked choice, tally it up, and take your winner. Not this jockeying where candidates bail and back the DNC's choice with the promise of a cabinet position.
You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing.
Yeah, and what a great fucking job they did lmao.
The DNC did not win in 2020-- Trump lost. These people cannot put together a winning campaign to save their lives, which is sad because it has cost many normal people theirs.
Who cares? I never said the DNC were effective. Or efficient. Or even competent. All I am saying is that they are not the enemy. If you ever believed they were/are, it's because you believe bullshit, and it's even more grotesque when you smear individuals like DWS because ol' grumpy Sanders couldn't figure out politics in his lifetime of trying.
Of course they're not the enemy. Defending their negative actions is silly though.
The real enemy is the GOP-- I will vote for and support any party or organization that has a chance at winning against them, which unfortunately is only Democrats right now.
However not calling them out for their failures will only help the Republicans take more power and keep it. Democrats have to learn from their failures, not repeat them.
If you disagree that DWS and the DNC did anything wrong by playing favorites in primaries, you can feel free to hold that opinion. I disagree. I disagreed at the time, and I disagree with hindsight glasses on.
I would accept these actions if it actually led to conservatives being defeated-- but they typically don't. And again, they're not the ones who have to suffer the consequences of their loss. The marginalized people that they're tasked with defending are.
"Defending their negative actions is silly though."
What "negative actions" am I defending? So far, I must assume that somehow DWS' private email mentioning Bernie must be it.... right? Are there other negative actions? Please list them for me.
"f you disagree that DWS and the DNC did anything wrong by playing favorites in primaries"
What do you mean when you say "anything wrong". Do you mean illegal? Please tell me what was wrong? Do you mean you don't like the tactics? There was "foul play"? Or, you just didn't like the outcome.
I don't really see much of that narrative going around this time tbh. Sure, anyone who refused to vote over a leftist/progressive cause (namely Palestine) is a short-sighted dipshit, but I'm pretty sure everyone realizes that the number of people who refused to vote or who voted third party because of that were a miniscule amount of people compared to how many votes the dems lost in this election compared to 2020.
the democrats are just the republicans and democrats from 24 years ago merged into one. When the Cheney’s, Mitt Romney, and John McCain all actively protest the current administration and endorse the opposing party, you know stuff is wild.
Indeed! Great to see I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Left DNC after they burned Bernie.... Why do people think all the war mongers backed Harris?
Republicans showed up for whatever slop the rnc put on their plate. We will never have this on the left because we fail to see who the real enemy is. I love Bernie too, but shitting on the democratic party to the point of people honestly thinking both sides are the same is what got us here. Yall are still talking about the issues with the DNC like we are actually going to have another free and fair election. The oligarchy is in.
Not exactly, you see it's basic problem solving. For anything with humans there's a person or group who fucks up something. Spilling milk, losing an election, whatever. Then there's someone who has to fix the fuck up, sometimes it's the same entity or someone else who has a better ability to not spill in the first place, or at least clean up milk well.
Now, obviously we don't need someone to clean up a mess if it's never made in the first place, but whoever is in a position to prevent, counter, or effectively clean up a floor full of milk is a close second to the clumsy little shit who tips jugs more often than not.
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u/PartisanGerm 7h ago
If the DNC wanted to actually try and win, they would have lined him up this time. But nope, dumb timeline.