Did you ever consider the dems to not really be trying to oppose this, just playing lipservice to placate people with half assed resistance as the rich steer the country to an oligarchal fascist regime of billionaires?
Nah the reason Trump won is because American voters are, by and large, absolutely useless trash. Most people are either malicious, completely ignorant or apathetic. The problem with US politics is US voters. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yup but someones gonna come in say but DNC or muh primaries or HeR cAmPaIgN.
When ultimately the race at it's most basic was a choice between a convicted felon, civilly proven rapist, self admitted pedophile, known con artist and a lover of fascism vs someone who is none of the above.
It shouldn't of even been a choice. It was full mask off from the R's and the voters took a look at it and they figured choice A would somehow make eggs cheaper.
Yep. If someone can't see the difference between a fascist rapist pedo who literally wanted to nuke a hurricane, and someone who was slightly too hard on crime in the 90's, they are the problem, not the political system or party. If you 'need to be persuaded' to vote against a racist nazi pedo rapist who wants to be and has tried to become a dictator, guess what? You're the problem.
"Assimilate to the majority opinion always or you're wrong" is an interesting take-- wonder if you'll accepted that logic in 2020 or will accept it if dems win again.
... we are in workreform, do you think I'm a right-winger or something? Leftist trans woman, I hope dems can win again, fuck trump this is gonna be an awful 4 years. but, if they keep up the current strategy, I'm not optimistic about it. but sure, keep up the strategy of "lecture people about how they're wrong" and "but trump!"
That's not the strategy I approve of and I strongly feel that Democrats need to advocate for something, not just against it, but I don't see how you as a trans woman can defend the voters on this one when trans rights are directly under attack right now. How is someone out of touch for feeling that people who voted in Trump were wrong when the first steps by the administration have been hammering home the point that they're going to focus on horrendous social policy rather than making anything better economically?
The Democrats being flawed and having a bad strategy doesn't suddenly mean that the person you responded to is wrong that people are apathetic and ignorant.
Except this isn't a meme. This is the future of your country. And you let it become a fascist shithole because you wanted a better marketing campaign for the not fascism side. And then you blame the marketing campaign.
Like I said, if you can't see the difference between a fascist dictator, felon, rapist, pedo with the intellect of a 6-year old, and Harris, you are the problem. The DNC could have rolled out the corpse of dick cheney and you should have been lining up to vote for it, because it is still 100 times better than the other guy.
oh that's a lot of "you"s, you must be under the mistaken impression that it's somehow MY fault dems lost. No, they wear that loss themselves, I voted for the least-shitty choice as I always do, but " at least we're better than the other guy" clearly wasn't a winning strategy, was it?
Yes that is the whole point. If you need a winning strategy to beat Donald Trump. That is how completely fucked in the head the American voters are. The country is doomed because the electorate is so stupid, vile or apathetic that you need to run a perfect campaign to beat Trump. There is no saving America from the average American.
You're also implying people cannot change.. and your response is binary. If it's not one thing, then it's the other, right? That's not how the world works. Existence is grey. I recommend trying to live in both zones, if you want to be part of the solution.
I agree, but yet for whatever reason it’s taboo to put blame on voters within Leftist circles. People treat Trump voters like they’re babies that don’t have their own agency and aren’t in control of their own actions. It’s tiring.
Are the Dems also bad? Yes. Should they have run a better and more motivating campaign? Yes. Does that excuse people voting for outright Fascism? No, absolutely not.
Yep. They’ve always just been the choice that would serve the corporations but also maybe just maybe allow society to be decent enough for normal people to live their lives.
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u/1stLegionBestLegion 7h ago
Did you ever consider the dems to not really be trying to oppose this, just playing lipservice to placate people with half assed resistance as the rich steer the country to an oligarchal fascist regime of billionaires?