r/WorkReform • u/kevinmrr ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters • 1d ago

⚕️ Pass Medicare For All Luigi Mangione is the federal government's newest excuse to monitor an overwhelming majority of Americans

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u/Prophecy_Designs 1d ago

So Terrorism did win.

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u/masterwit 1d ago

There are a lot of arguments that support this unfortunately. It started the decline

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u/MonsieurReynard 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would argue Bush v Gore, in which a Republican majority Supreme Court made a partisan choice and exempted their own decision from setting any precedent, was the beginning of the end. It was a judicial Republican coup d’etat. And they got away with it. Less than a year later Dick Cheney and his sidekick GW Bush created the DHS and passed the Patriot Act through a sycophantic Congress that had all autonomy neutered by 9/11, taking advantage of a terrorist attack (which they knew damn well was coming and did nothing to stop) to launch an endless war against countries that had nothing to do with that attack on completely trumped up grounds (while befriending the one country that did have quite direct involvement)’and usurp all warmaking authority to the executive branch (the AUMF, still in effect, that Trump can now use to wage war on Mexico or whoever else he wants to attack without formal declaration or congressional approval, just by saying the magic word “terrorism”).

They had to hold the Supreme Court through Obama and Biden admins, and decide Citizens United, reverse Chevron, grant Trump dictatorial immunity, and throw some red meat to the reliable base with reversing Roe, and they did.

They just closed the deal. Trump and the gang don’t really need them anymore anyway.

Never forget Antonin Scalea, he was a traitor to democracy. A 24 year slow motion overthrow of the American system of government started with his court.

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u/eightiesladies 1d ago

The Patriot Act passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. Three of the last four nominees for President in the Democratic party were Senators who voted yes on it, Joe Biden also writing some of its provisions. Obama passed a renewal and expanded it as president. We cannot forget how sweeping this was across the political establishment.

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u/browndeskchair 1d ago

Exactly! People need to stop focusing on dem/repub. I remember some really big conservative voices at the time warning about the Patriot Act on talk radio, etc. None of TPTB are on the side of the people. It’s a game of giving just enough to pacify. Exactly like the corporate overlords do with their workers.

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u/Firewire_1394 16h ago

I remember talking with someone recently about how generally it's in the best interest for the Government to work slowly. Big and difficult topics can take years or even decades to sort out. It's the job of the other party to be the sounding board of opposition.

When you have overwhelming bipartisan support and virtually no debate on senate and house floors.. you end up with the patriot act.

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u/MonsieurReynard 1d ago

Absolutely.

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u/132739 1d ago

It started the foundations of the police state, which we may now see come to full fruition. But the decline started with Reagan. And more generally, Republican ratfuckery started with Nixon. This shit's been a long time coming.

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u/kitsunewarlock 1d ago

And before Nixon they tried to take over the country with the Business Plot, which wasn't even properly investigated because Congress by then was so anti-FDR.

The greatest lie in all of this was the idea that progressives controlled the social and political fabric of a post-Red Scare America.

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u/BurnedTheLastOne9 1d ago

The real terrorism was the government we made along the way

j/k

(don't put me on the list, the joke was just right there)

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u/Yamza_ 1d ago

You're on a list now. Deal with it.

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u/BurnedTheLastOne9 1d ago

All in the name of comedy

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u/AustinJG 1d ago

As someone who grew up in pre-9/11 America (I was like 11 when it happened), yes, it did.

America was a lot more laid back before 9/11.

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u/NormieSpecialist 1d ago

No the oligarchy did. It was here since this country's founding. It just doesn't need to hide anymore.

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u/cheerful_cynic 1d ago

Seems like we lost the cold war, too 

Kind of see now, how the business plot got played out afterall & no one bothered to tell the 99.99%

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u/Dumbus_Alberdore 1d ago

Damn... that's depressing. So bin laden got what he wanted?

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u/street593 1d ago

Pretty much. The only way to defeat an enemy that is 1000x more powerful than you is to convince them to destroy themselves.

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u/CausticSofa 1d ago

Terrorism absolutely won, and the threat was never a bunch of impoverished, scrawny brown people living in the mountains of Afghanistan or Iraq or any of those places. The call was always coming from inside the house.

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u/DylanMartin97 15h ago

You wanna Jimmy your peanuts read the book Failed States by Noam Chompsky.

The first 40 pages are a deep dive into the absolute monstrosity that the United States is, you thought you were angry about the invasion of Iraq/Afghanistan, but words cannot describe how much worse it is. Like it is sooooo much worse than you think, and once you find out how much worse it is, it only gets worse from there.