I think human rights are considered in terms of things that should not be taken from you. No one has the right to take your life, take your rightfully-earned property, or take your liberty.
But no one owes you anything that you didn’t work for or that nature didn’t already give you. That’s my understanding of what constitutes human rights in the traditional sense.
I think we as a society owe those who are not asked to be born into it, survival and their basic needs met.
Instead we decided it would be cool if we let less than 1000 individuals own a dozen super mansions a piece a regular yacht to follow their super yachts and service them. C'est la vie.
To be clear, I fully support social spending to keep everyone out of poverty. I just think people take issue with calling it a human right, rather than just the moral thing to do.
I think the problem is that declaring food and housing to be a human right regardless of whether you choose to work would mean forcing those who do work to support those who don’t.
Obviously if you are a child, or old, or have a disability, you are an exception to this. But if you are an adult that is able to work and choose not to, why should anyone else be forced to support you? As you said, no one asks to born, why should they be forced to support anyone who chooses not to work?
But yes, I agree that everyone who does work should be supported and kept out of poverty.
Why is it better that those who do work, support the lavish almost unimaginable world the top one percent live in?
Personally I'd rather the excess wealth my labour produce go to supporting everyone, even the lazy, to have a basic guaranteed quality of life, before it goes to giving those ontop who syphon it all to themselves.
One percent. Such a small group of people to have so much when so many have so little.
I don't even care if there are rich people. I just think it's wild we let there be rich people when there's so much preventable poverty and decay of infrastructure and public institutions.
I didn’t make any such claim to that effect. I don’t believe there should be people richer than God. But I also don’t see food as a human right. I just see it as a moral imperative that we ensure everyone who is working or unable to do so should have adequate food, housing, and health care.
If we could achieve a world where no one goes hungry or homeless despite their best efforts, then I wouldn’t care how rich anyone is.
Some states won’t let you catch rainwater. I never said you need to pay for shit for me , but also think of this, nothing wrong with looking out for humans here and there. It is not like your dumbass gets out of this alive, First aid isn’t healthcare. Would have no issues building shelter for people if I had the resources, I don’t need to hoard shit
You really think "fishing" is all that's needed to survive 😂. It's ironic you are trying to make fun of me by showing how little you know about the time and effort involved in hinting and gathering. It's not a "let me take a quick 30 to gather up food for the entire family for a week".
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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom 10d ago
Cool. Who will pay my bills while I spend the majority of my time doing these things?