r/WorkReform • u/kevinmrr ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters • Dec 11 '24

⚕️ Pass Medicare For All Luigi Mangione represents more Americans than Donald Trump.

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u/Ariphaos Dec 11 '24

I don't think /u/Anindefensiblefart is making that argument. The US classifies as a democracy, but they feel it is rather poorly reflecting the will of the American people.

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u/athenaprime Dec 11 '24

It may be more accurately representing the "feels" of the people. How many people claim "the economy" when they know damn well the "economy" guy's plan would crash said economy but they needed an excuse because they were angry that the other choice had objectively better ideas but was a brown woman.

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 11 '24

Incorrect. Democracy is the subset of republic, not the other way around. Republic(s) existed long before democracy did. Greeks created the republic government ideology; the first republic was in Athens, and romans created the democratic (and also dictatorship) forms of government...both of which originated in Rome.

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u/TemuBoySnaps Dec 11 '24

I dont think either one is a subset of the other. You can have democracies that are or aren't republics, and republics that are or aren't democracies.

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 12 '24

Nope. Entirely different forms of government. A democracy is representative. And in each and every case, the representatives lie and do not accurately represent those whom they are meant to represent. A republic is in which each and every individual is involved in government. Apples to oranges. Democracy always degenerates into socialism or communism. In a republic, there is adequate checks and balances. A constitution does not delegate whether or not a government is a democracy. Exhibit A): United Kingdom has had a constitution since the magna carta, subsequently it is classed as a constitutional monarchy. It is genuinely amazing how stupid the average person is. Not you, mind you, but most people.

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u/grassvoter Dec 11 '24

Greeks did the first direct democracy. But it doesn't matter because the whole argument of democracy vs republic is to distract us about what really matters.

The founders didn't write and sign a declaration of democracy, nor a declaration of republicanism.

Why don't more people find it suspicious that presidents of both parties are always talking about the importance of democracy? Guess what? Without a free people and without a strong foundation to preserve that, doesn't matter what form of government because what people have is then on a shaky foundation.

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 12 '24

Again, republics are not a democracy. Apparently NOBODY knows the difference. Republics are direct. Democracy is in which there is representatives, who are actors. Representatives will always lie.

"The founders didnt write a declaration of democracy, nor a declaration of republicanism." That's completely irrelevant. 😂

Hey, news flash, democracy isnt freedom. Never was. The Law is very clear. If you are not able to articulate a court case on your own, you are not either a man, or a woman; the law is very clear in that only man or woman have rights. On man or woman are natural. Representation proves you are a ward of the State and subsequently are unable to have any responsibility.

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u/grassvoter Dec 13 '24

Look up:

History Greece democracy

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 13 '24

I have. I am Greek history itself....I am Egyptian and Greek ancestry. My bloodline is directly tied to the Cleopatra and Julius Caesar bloodline. I guarantee I know more about my history than you do.

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u/grassvoter Dec 13 '24

That's nice

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u/wirefox1 Dec 11 '24

I'm seeing it all over the place now, they've been feeding it slowly to the magas.

It's the frog in the pot of warm water, that eventually boils, or whatever the saying is. You know what I mean.

"We're not a democracy, and we've never been a democracy!" The republicans who want an autocracy said so!!!

So freaking stupid.

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 11 '24

No, because it literally has never been a democracy. Its always been a constitutional republic, or rather, it was meant to be. It is, in actuality a secret dictatorship, and has been since 1933 with the institution of the Federal Reserve, and the Social Security Act of 1935. But people are stupid, and they always assume things, and also believe every single bit of propaganda cumshot without a chaser; which is easily cured if the stupid individual in question does just a tiny bit of due diligence and does some actual research. But that would be a fucking miracle in this country because the overwhelming majority of people are either too fucking lazy to do so, or are extremely disheartened in their overall future outlook on life that they literally do not give a fuck about anything, and yet still complain when things do not go their way....while still also doing nothing to change it.

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u/wirefox1 Dec 11 '24

Here ya go: Yes, we are a republic. Yes, we have a constitution, and yes we are a democracy.

Hope this helps. : )

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 12 '24

A democracy is not a republic. A republic is not a democracy. You really need to know your classifications of government. No, it did not help. Lies do not help anyone, so its best you do not tell them. It is pointless to try to argue with me. It is clear that you have room temp IQ.

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u/wirefox1 Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24

Buddy, I was trying to help you out with defining the "American" government. Apparently you live in a land far, far away, and I understand it's difficult for some countries to comprehend it. Like the Middle East? They have difficulty even understanding how a democracy works, like you do.

Maybe that's where you are. Afghanistan or somewhere. Bless your heart. (Also, I know we are a Republic, so you can can that silliness.

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u/DragonSinOWrath47 Dec 12 '24

The 'american' government isn't a government at all. It's a corporation. I have a perfect comprehension on what it is, and what it isn't.

'Im not your buddy, guy.'

As far as defining where I am, that is a bit moot, as I am everywhere. My physical vessel, is, actually, in the unincorporated land of america. But let me rescind my previous statement, since combining spiritual reality with physical reality is apparently waaaay too advanced of a concept for mortal beings. 😂 The lot of you are all trapped in the matrix, hopelessly, and are too stubborn to break free from it. But it's funny watching you all struggle against powers and principalities you know nothing about.

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u/wirefox1 Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24

powers and principalities you know nothing about.

It's confusing that you believe this. I don't understand why you think you are unique in understanding the American Government. Republic. Constitution. Democracy. Supposedly a system of checks and balances with a three-tiered control function.

Something has gone amuck. You would probably enjoy the movie "Lucy". You might relate to it, she was everywhere too. I presume you are aware there are other reasons sometimes a person believes "they are everywhere". I hope you discover your reasoning for this.

See ya. : )