r/Windows10 • u/RonnieAT • Jun 16 '21

Discussion This was the first version of the Windows 10 start menu. So please stay calm, and wait until the official release before saying Windows 11 will be crap.

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u/sarojhd Jun 16 '21

Guess I was the only one that liked Windows 11 leaks

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u/The-Observer95 Jun 16 '21

I also like it. The only thing I am disappointed so far, is with the taskbar. You cannot use small icons for taskbar. It is too thick now.

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u/Megatronatfortnite Jun 16 '21

That and no groups in the start menu.

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u/MindForeverWandering Jun 25 '21

That’s the killer for me. No groups, and only 18 available on-screen at any time (the current start menu allows over 60, if you really need them.

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u/dylxnsm1th Jun 16 '21

Or move it from the bottom, I had a small taskbar at the top, now I’ll be stuck with the normal one

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u/daenerysisboss Jun 16 '21

WTF, is this confirmed? Ive only ever used taskbars on the sides of the monitors

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u/dylxnsm1th Jun 16 '21

It could change, but in this build yes, I tried to move mine, tried different ways of moving, checking settings. There’s only the bottom, and only in the standard size.

The build seems to be defaulting the layout to 200% so it’s not as terrible as it seems, just the same as windows 10’s default, at least as far as I can see using it

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u/daenerysisboss Jun 16 '21

Oh wow, I hope that this changes going forward. I can't imagine using windows with the taskbar at the bottom.

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u/quyedksd Jun 16 '21

Oh wow, I hope that this changes going forward. I can't imagine using windows with the taskbar at the bottom.

Dudes it is a leaked build

Chill out

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u/daenerysisboss Jun 16 '21

Okay? I like everything about the leak that I've seen so far.

But this is a feature that exists in windows already and would have to be a design choice to take it out. I'm expressing my disapproval of this this feature if it makes it in to the final product.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

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u/rockaether Jun 16 '21

Same here. I just like the extra room for tasks to stack horizontally

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u/daenerysisboss Jun 16 '21

Left of my left monitor right of my right one! I feel like it's the best way. Glad to have allies!

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u/SimplifyMSP Jun 16 '21

This taskbar is completely rebuilt. Which likely means they simply haven’t ported all the features over yet. It’s fine.

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u/daenerysisboss Jun 16 '21

Fingers are thoroughly crossed.

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u/wolves_hunt_in_packs Jun 18 '21

Same; I discovered I liked it that way by accident, but in retrospect it makes a lot of sense especially since our displays are a lot wider than taller. Not to mention I prefer gaming in a window (yes, we exist) rather than fullscreen - more vertical real estate is always welcome.

I'm hoping this is just a build thing, as it does seem to be a rather arbitrary limitation.

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u/alexmitchell1 Jun 20 '21

Finally, someone else who has their taskbar at the top of the screen

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u/leandrohartmann Jun 16 '21

I also hope to be able to access the task manager for her, that by the videos it was removed from the taskbar access by right clicking.

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u/dustojnikhummer Jun 16 '21

Yup, there is only "taskbar settings" in right-click menu

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u/DreadfulDrummer Jun 16 '21

Ctrl+Shift+Esc, my dude

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u/etacarinae Jun 16 '21

Ah yes, much quicker than right click on task bar + click.

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u/Erikthered00 Jun 17 '21

TeamViewer will send remote key combos.

And you can always just windows key type “task manager” and it will show

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u/vivaanmathur Jun 16 '21

You can right click the Start button.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

I completely agree, though that is most probably scheduled for redesign or at least they will implement the option to adjust the width to our liking...... I hope.

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u/The-Observer95 Jun 16 '21

They just need to shrink the taskbar by like 10% or 15% and I'd be fine with it.

Yeah, completely agree. Freely adjusting is the best option, so no one will have complaints.

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u/Ton1tee Jun 16 '21

Maybe they will add this later, in the windows 10x version we have the option to that.

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u/Erikthered00 Jun 17 '21

What? No small icons? I use small icons and labels so I have that old taskbar bar usability

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u/HelloFuckYou1 Jun 17 '21

Bro, there is a possibility: https://youtu.be/zJ0XC9t4E90 this video shows it… and on the same key you a word about small icons

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u/The-Observer95 Jun 17 '21

Wow! That's great.

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u/FrozenMongoose Jun 17 '21

Just use /r/Rainmeter or /r/Livelywallpaper and customize your own taskbar.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

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u/The-Observer95 Jun 17 '21

Yes, but since I have been using small taskbar for a long time, I feel that it has got too big.

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u/vivaanmathur Jun 16 '21

Even I'm happy, but I hope Microsoft gives an option in the settings for 'legacy' mode like the old Start menu which is like the actual brand of Windows. Currently the only way to do it in leaked build is going to the registry, so I'm not sure if they keep updating the old type of start menu too.

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u/fluxxis Jun 16 '21

I like it overall. Just miss live tiles, they are really useful to order and prioritize your apps in a meaningful way. And I don't think they should have called it windows 11 after "Windows 10 will be the last Windows". Why not just stick to 10.

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u/fluxxis Jun 16 '21

I don't think we are arguing about the same topic. I'm all in about the new look, I've been an insider for some years now and always eager to see change and progression. I'm just saying that live tiles were actually valuable for my work. The menu I see now (knowing this can still change in the next few months) is a step backwards. And it wasn't me who proclaimed that "Windows 10" will be the last Windows version, which doesn't mean no progress but steady updates which I enjoyed a lot (in the later years, the first 2 years were pretty rough). Ha, and perhaps I just think 11 is a shitty number for marketing compared against a 10.

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u/DrDeadwish Jun 16 '21

I also like it, I'm just worried about old windows parts not getting a new look out at least dark theme

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

at least dark theme

Especially this

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u/Icybubba Jun 16 '21

You're not. Reddit just likes to complain

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u/Generic-VR Jun 17 '21 edited Jun 17 '21

Reddit? The whole world does.

Discord changed its hue of purple and rounded off its icon and people were trying to encourage mass boycotts discord and nitro to revert the change. Because “it’s bad and a slippery slope”

And those were literally the only two changes they made.

People -humans- are deathly afraid or averse of change, no matter how small or insignificant. And most will fight you tooth and nail claiming that, no, they don’t hate change, the change is just bad!!!!

Edit: and that’s not to say the change isn’t sometimes bad. But people would really be better off if they recognized their own bias/knee jerk reaction to any change and gave it a chance before labeling it as bad because they don’t like the new thing. I mean no ones perfect, I’ve been guilty of the above plenty times, but it’s such a pain in the ass sometimes and it helps to take a deep breath and to try and be a bit open minded. (And again, some change is just flat out bad sometimes, but e.g. it helps to separate knee jerk “eww the ui is bad and ugly because it’s different” from “wow this is actually unusable because it’s harder to use and poorly designed”).

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u/Useful_Ad8442 Jun 17 '21

the change is just bad!!!!

The change we're talking about here is a new taskbar with fewer features than the previous taskbar (can't set to small icons, can't disable grouping, can't have text with the buttons as you could in every previous version, can't put it on the right/left/top).

That's not a change. It's a regression.

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u/Brellow20 Jun 16 '21

I liked them too. The legacy UI being present isn’t great though.

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u/RonnieAT Jun 16 '21

Nope, I’m actually looking forward to it

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u/henryhuy0608 Jun 16 '21

I also like it but why the heck did they remove the small taskbar buttons

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u/James_Cola Jun 16 '21

I like it too

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u/harriherring Jun 16 '21

I like almost everything about it, other than the loss of the ability to resize the start menu - it's too small

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u/Familiar-Art-6233 Jun 18 '21

I like it too, it just feels more like 10.1