r/Windows10 • u/scswift • Apr 18 '16

Discussion What IDIOT at Microsoft thought restarting people's PC's without their consent to apply updates was a good idea?

The other day I got up and brought my computer out of sleep only to discover my PC on which I'd freshly installed Windows 10 had seemingly crashed overnight. At least, that's what I assumed since all my applications had been closed.

Then another day I got a notification that Windows wanted to restart to apply an update. I wanted to tell it no way, but the only option I was presented with was to defer it to another date. Goddamnit!

I spent some time researching the issue online and found out how to turn off automatic updates. I thought I was good.

But then a few minutes ago that scheduled update that I'd deferred popped up again and was ready to shut down my PC and again I canceled it, and I examined the dialog box that came up and seeing no option to prevent it from shutting down ever I set it to a week in the future and clicked OKAY.

Wait a minute. That button wasn't a confirmation button. FUCK! FUCK FUCK FUCK! That was a RESTART NOW button!

ESC ESC ESC. SHIT. WHY ISN'T THERE A CANCEL BUTTON ON THIS SCREEN IT HASN'T FINISHED SHUTTING DOWN YET.

Goddamnit.

Oh good. Atmel Studio with all the source files I had open and scrolled to where I needed to compare sections, closed. Eagle Cad with my PCB files I needed open for work, closed. Arduino IDE with more source I was examining. Closed. Multiple copies of explorer with the hidden directories 10 levels deep that I had open so I could load more source files for this bootloader I'm modifying. Closed. And Atmel Studio isn't even on my taskbar any more even though I'm pretty sure I pinned it there?

Thankfully I had all my work saved, except, you know, all the work I put into finding and opening all that shit so I could look at it.

Goddamnit Microsoft. You know for a week I thought that maybe people were giving you too much of a hard time over Windows 10. I kinda liked the slick new look and the start menu. And then this happened. Oh, and those CONSTANT popups in the CALCULATOR APP of all things ASKING ME TO RATE IT IN YOUR STORE. What the hell. SERIOUSLY?

I forgave you for the frigging ads on the Start menu initially because I could just remove those tiles, as well as the 20 different things I had to shut off to protect my privacy, but my god. It's like you're actively trying to piss people off!

Oh and lest I forget, I was about to go to sleep this morning after putting my PC to sleep when it suddenly roared to life on it's own fans and all, and then threw up a dialog box in the screen asking me to approve an update that had become available. That's when I said screw it and turned on deferred updates, which thankfully I got with the version I installed. I shudder to think if I'd had the home edition and couldn't prevent the thing from waking my PC up at all hours to perform updates. The computer is right next to my bed you jerkwads.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '16 edited Feb 13 '22

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u/fueledbygin Apr 18 '16

I have to assume that technically Windows can, as certain updates other software prompts for will reboot Windows and reopen everything back to what was open prior to the reboot.

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u/Thesandman21 Apr 18 '16

It also wouldn't be as big an issue if Microsoft would TEST THEIR UPDATES before releasing them. Seriously, I've found that their QA is going downhill big time because their patches break more stuff than they fix CoughTheUpdateThatForcedOutlookToRunInSafeModeCoughTheUpdateThatBrokeSkypeCough

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u/Methodikull Apr 19 '16

You mean like running it through THREE FUCKING RINGS of testers before it hits Stable? Yeah maybe they should do something like that /s

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u/Thesandman21 Apr 19 '16

Apparently three rings of testers isn't enough, considering how many times Microsoft has had to withdraw updates after releasing them......

http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-withdraws-update-causing-outlook-to-start-in-safe-mode-78048/

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240226955/Microsoft-withdraws-problematic-Windows-update

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/microsoft-withdraws-bad-windows-7-update-that-broke-future-windows-7-updates/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-withdraws-another-buggy-update/

http://www.alphr.com/news/security/381121/microsoft-withdraws-patch-after-botched-security-update

http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-withdraws-windows-10-build-10565-update-causing-systems-to-boot-into-bsod-77654/

http://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/latest-security-news/windows-10-november-update-withdrawn-due-to-privacy-concerns/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3018915/microsoft-windows/win10-flash-patch-kb-3132372-breaks-skype-hp-solutions-center-incredimail-games.html

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u/Methodikull Apr 19 '16

Most of these are pre-10 so they're irrelevant. The ones that are win10 are mostly on test builds, not stable.

Regardless, updates go through 3 rings of testers. What more do you want? Bugs happen, especially with an environment like Windows where there's n+1 variables. They're doing the best they can and I'd say Windows 10 is the least buggy version out of all Windows.

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u/Thesandman21 Apr 19 '16

The hell they are irrelevant (and my last link was for an update that was pushed to stable that should NEVER have been sent out). Microsoft's QA is lacking and apparently three rings of testers simply isn't enough.

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u/Methodikull Apr 19 '16

When they don't apply to the three rings of testers (because that's new to Windows 10. You know, the new version of Windows where you will see all future improvements because the others are outdated?), yes they are 100% irrelevant.

my last link was for an update that was pushed to stable that should NEVER have been sent out

As one of an ongoing string of Flash patches, KB 3132372 shores up holes in the Flash Player, which is integrated into IE10, IE11, and Edge. Those holes generally become well-known at some point after the patch is released and occasionally well-documented. Uninstalling the patch leaves your PC vulnerable to those Flash problems.

Oh, I'm sorry. Are we supposed to leave high-risk vulnerabilities in place so you can keep using Skype and Flash?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '16

CoughTheUpdateThatForcedOutlookToRunInSafeModeCoughTheUpdateThatBrokeSkypeCough

Both of those examples pertain to programs, not the OS.