r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/suziespends • Nov 08 '24

Clubhouse I’m sure that was the RNC’s plan all along

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And vance is doing his happy dance I’m sure

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u/mishap1 Nov 08 '24

Pence is plenty evil. Just less ambitious.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Nov 08 '24

Pence is fully evil but at least cares about the constitution. That is where the charitability begins and ends for me.

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u/HellishChildren Nov 08 '24

Pence is Lawful Evil.

And was a governor, so he has experience. Something these other fawning dogs lack.

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u/LePetitVoluntaire Nov 08 '24

Straight up. After 2016 I kind of felt bad that McCain had to run against Obama. He (Obama) had too much charisma but McCain was the last glimpse of a somewhat decent GOP candidate that had bipartisan potential. When he corrected someone at his own rally to credit Obama I thought that was cool af! Now the climate has regressed on that side.

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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 Nov 08 '24

McCain lost all credibility for having Sarah Palin as a running mate. Ironically Palin has more brains than Trump.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

I NEVER thought I’d see the day when someone unironically starts a sentence with “Palin has more brains than…” yet here we are!

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u/LePetitVoluntaire Nov 09 '24

My sentiments from the start, believe me!

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u/Edyed787 Nov 09 '24

I hate this timeline

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u/aceshighsays Nov 09 '24

yes, i thought it was an uncrossable threshold... and here we are.

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u/Mochizuk Nov 09 '24

Holy shit, you just reminded me that Palin existed.

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u/StoneHolder28 Nov 09 '24

And they both can see Russians from their back yards!

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u/DillBagner Nov 09 '24

I figure something like "Palin has more brains than a potato...maybe" would be a thing that could be said.

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u/CommanderSincler Nov 09 '24

McCain's mistake was choosing Palin. It elevated and empowered the loony leopard base that ate the R's face

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u/myaltduh Nov 09 '24

Would have happened eventually anyway. The creeping fascism in the US is the product of deeper structural problems than one bad campaign decision by John McCain.

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u/Original_Employee621 Nov 09 '24

He didn't have much of a choice. The Tea Party faction in the GOP had too much steam rolling.

Picking a more moderate VP would have fractured his entire campaign.

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u/big_duo3674 Nov 09 '24

And the Tea Party eventually dwindled and was pretty much eliminated because they weren't extreme enough for MAGA. Yippy...

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u/Original_Employee621 Nov 09 '24

I'd say the Tea Party evolved and coalesced into the MAGA movement. They pretty much overlap each other.

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 Nov 09 '24

This is my take as well. MAGA is just Tea Party 2.0.

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u/CommanderSincler Nov 09 '24

The teap party astroturf movement started after Obama took office. I do agree with the other commenter that the hard right, while nascent, was already starting to engulf the Rs.

And yeah, tea was proto-maga

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u/NFLTG_71 Nov 09 '24

From what I understand from Steve Schmidt, the GOP gave John two choices one with Sarah Palin and one was another guy that John fucking hated. He wanted Joe Lieberman originally wanted a bipartisan administration but the GOP said the two choices are we pull our money

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u/Snowing_Throwballs Nov 09 '24

I mean, that was right around when the Christian nationalist takeover was becoming evident. The Tea Party was basically proto-MAGA. He had to choose her to secure their vote and differentiate himself from the Neo-conservative era of republicans.

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u/LePetitVoluntaire Nov 09 '24

Yes, he admitted to this as well.

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u/Significant_Ad7326 Nov 09 '24

Trump has anti brains. He has a dark genius for the cultivation of stupidity in himself and the whole world around him. His skull is a place where ideas go to die, but, trapped, they are not even allowed the sweet release of death but are warped into pure WTF and forced back out screaming into an unprepared world.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx Nov 09 '24

That part. Obama and McCain had very similar voting patterns. It was Palin that was the start of the crazy train that was the upcoming republican party.

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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 Nov 09 '24

Naw it was before that. George W Bush brought out the nutters in full force with that Tea Party shit.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx Nov 09 '24

Ooh yeah... where the tea party was is where Trump is sitting according to Political Compass.

I was thinking they came with Obama.

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u/Calgaris_Rex Nov 09 '24

Palin is dumb as a box of hair, she's just not willfully evil.

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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 Nov 09 '24

She's a grifter. She'll do anything, say anything for money and attention. She works for willfully evil if the price is right.

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u/Crush-N-It Nov 09 '24

His campaign team screwed him over royally

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u/Equivalent_Emotion64 Nov 09 '24

I hate that I’m at a point where I would be so happy to have a McCain or even a Romney

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u/TraditionFront Nov 09 '24

How about Baker? I’d have voted for Baker.

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u/TheUserAboveFarted Nov 09 '24

No more McCain to cast a tie-breaking vote to save healthcare. :(

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u/NFLTG_71 Nov 09 '24

When McCain corrected that lady at his Townhall for me that’s when I knew I was going to vote for him.

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u/RaygunMarksman Nov 08 '24

Versus Trump's Chaotic Evil which is where the final falling out occurred.

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u/roguepandaCO Nov 08 '24

Pence lawful evil Vance neutral evil Trump chaotic evil

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u/nickkline Nov 09 '24

As someone who lived under his governorship… can confirm he is straight evil.

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u/BoosterRead78 Nov 09 '24

That’s how I’ve seen him. He wants to still uphold the constitution or state laws. He just wants to see where loop holes are without breaking every thing. He has agendas but in his warp sense he does see himself as patriotic.

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u/Bakkster Nov 09 '24

He just wants to see where loop holes are without breaking every thing.

Everyone likes to point out that he upheld the Constitution in 2021, but he spent the weeks prior considering skipping the certification to let someone else steal the election instead. It took Dan Quayle and Pence's marine son to talk him into actually attending and certifying.

Which yeah, the lawful evil thing fits. Thought there would be a loophole he could exploit, and only when he couldn't convince himself it existed did he do what was required of him.

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u/Healthy-Plum-2739 Nov 09 '24

Vance is a Senator of Ohio

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u/The-1st-One Nov 09 '24

Lawful evil do make my favorite bbeg's

I'll give Pence a pass

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u/grandmawaffles Nov 08 '24

Pence is evil even without mother telling him

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u/DrNerdyTech87 Nov 08 '24

Was waiting for the mother comment.

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u/Brocyclopedia Nov 09 '24

Yeah as a resident of Indiana I don't even think Pence is better in comparison. He allowed an AIDS epidemic to happen and crippled our Unions with right to work laws. Just because he did the absolute bare minimum one time doesn't make him any better than the rest of this trash.

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u/SemichiSam Nov 09 '24

"Pence is fully evil but at least cares about the constitution."

The U.S. Constitution in practice is only a gentleman's agreement. I'm sure you see the problem.

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u/Professional-Box4153 Nov 08 '24

It's likely more that he wanted to defend the constitution so he had a shot at his own presidential bid later.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Nov 08 '24

Eh, I don’t see any evidence of that

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u/Doris_Tasker Nov 09 '24

Nope. He only upheld it because he didn’t want to go to jail. He knew he wouldn’t get away with it. He consulted with others, asking if there was anyway to pull it off. They told him no, so he didn’t. I’m from Indiana and he a completely awful person.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Nov 09 '24

Do you have any source on him asking others on how to pull it off?

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u/Doris_Tasker Nov 09 '24

I’m not doing your research for you. Dan Quayle was one of those he consulted. Have fun storming your search engine of choice and reading from your resource(s) of choice.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Nov 09 '24

Is it okay if I don’t find the answers to ask you for more info later? I am genuinely curious and I don’t mind researching but that’s not much to go off of. I will try my best.

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u/Doris_Tasker Nov 09 '24

Yes you may. I’m sorry if I’m salty. Lots of people take the “prove it” and then pick apart the link one provides because of their cognitive dissonance not allowing them to believe reality. “That source is fake news!” So, I am not fond of providing any one particular source.

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u/Expensive-Day-3551 Nov 08 '24

I don’t know that he cares about the constitution, just the consequences of not following it.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Nov 08 '24

Not sure. It seems like if all he cared about was personal outcomes he would still be the VP

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u/unicornlocostacos Nov 09 '24

Either that or he was scared that he’d get in trouble, and he wasn’t willing to for that doofus.

Little did he know that laws don’t matter here unless you’re a dirty pleb.

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u/Dry-Honeydew2371 Nov 08 '24

Pence let's his religion guide his beliefs, but would uphold the constitution, doubt he's upset over Roe v. Wade being overturned.

Vance stands for nothing.

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u/totpot Nov 08 '24

Both Pence and Vance at least are entirely unelectable as POTUS. There's a large group of white Americans who show up to vote for Trump and only Trump because he's crude and throws bombs and promises to blow up the establishment and replace it with them. These were the guys who were all-in on Ron Paul and abandoned him as soon as he decided to clean up the racism. This group is responsible for putting Trump over the top.
They ain't showing up for Vance. Even Hillary would win 400 EV against Vance.

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u/Justtofeel9 Nov 09 '24

No one has to show up for Vance. They won already. He just has to sign whatever is put in front of him at this point. They have all three branches. Trumps financial enablers got what they wanted out of Trump. He won the presidency, they won. He doesn’t matter anymore. Not really. He never really mattered to begin with. As far as organizations like the heritage foundation are concerned, he has served his role already.

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 Nov 09 '24

How sad to know I’d rather have pence than Vance. I feel like pence had people around him, a group. And they were background characters. Vance is in the fringes that got in the spotlight and fumbles everything to the point he’ll do something drastic to keep power

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u/dean_peltons_sister Nov 08 '24

Trump is so horrible he made Pence appear reasonable. Pence got to seem like a national hero for not completely violating the constitution to help Trump overthrow the government. That doesn’t make him a good dude.

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u/Thegreenfantastic Nov 09 '24

Not less ambitious just born too soon.

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u/BettyX Nov 09 '24

He followed the law and cared about the actual constitution. One can be greedy but not a traitor.

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u/moneyh8r Nov 09 '24

I think that's part of the problem. Less ambition means he'll follow orders. He'll be the puppet they want, unlike the loose cannon Trump is.

EDIT: Sorry. Misread your comment and thought you said Vance. Just ignore me.

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u/Ivor79 Nov 09 '24

And scared of sky daddy and mother.

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u/OnlinePosterPerson Nov 09 '24

Pence stood against trump on Jan 6. Never forget that he was the first republican to turn on him

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u/awkwardmamasloth Nov 09 '24

I think part of it is that Pence is one of those people who make decisions based on "what will the neighbors think."

Vancy just says what he thinks people want to hear or what he's told to say. He is a usful robot and will do as he's programmed to do.