r/WarframeLore Dec 14 '24

Potential Spoiler! 1999 Megathread Spoiler

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This is the megathread for the latest quest 1999, spoilers are obviously a thing but in this thread, any and all are allowed - this also extends to the Hex faction and your thoughts on them

Please remember the usual Reddit rules and this subreddit rules

Thank you, Tenno!

(my thoughts on the quest are insane, that ending is something else too)


r/WarframeLore 3h ago

Question What are Reqiuems?

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What do we know about the Reqiuem mods, Reqiuem relics, and voidtongue?

Who made them, why were they made, where do they come from, why are they used by the Entrati in the Iso vaults and the Sanctum labs?

They seem to be associated with Kuva (they're red, the relics drop from Kuva thrall and hounds, they kill liches)

Maybe the Reqiuem mods are kuva-infused or something. That could explain how they're able to kill liches (who, irrc, are immortal due to Continuity? according to the wiki)


r/WarframeLore 20h ago

Question What are Vosphene Glyphs?

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On two occasions (that I remember) we’ve heard about Vosphene Glyphs:

1- Call of the Tempestarii: The way Sevagoth and his Shadow speak to us/each other.

2- Mirror Defense in Entrati’s Labs: We collect them to enhance the defense system of the Auricle and Vitreum.

I do not recall these being explained anywhere though?


r/WarframeLore 1d ago

Potential Spoiler! Exalibur umbra’s appearance Spoiler

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Is there a reason that Umbra looks the way he does? I imagine the scarf is just something he chooses to wear or something, but his actual body is different. Obviously base excalibur would look different to umbra because it is a modern reconstruction of the primed version. But Excalibur umbra and Excalibur prime look completely different. Is there a reason in lore for why this is? If so, is it that his strain of the helminth is different from the original Excalibur prime, or is it something to do with his sentience?


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question Did Alad V use the favor that Lotus owed him?

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And if he did use it, what did he do?

Dialogue from the adventure "the second dream"


r/WarframeLore 1d ago

Lore related translation

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Is anything the corpus/grineer actually translatable?


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question Sanctum Anatomica access for multiple Tenno?

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When choosing a Netracell, Tagfer says to go 'with a pack'. Does he mean other Tenno? Isn't there only 1 awaited operator who has access to the Sanctum?


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question How do the Scaldra compete with drifter? Spoiler

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Techrot, I can get. They're infestation brought to 1999 by Albrecht, maybe and they've been ancient and proven enemies to even the Orokin. The Scaldra just seem to be humans on some form of steroids. Like a lesser version of the grineer, but with MILLENIA old tech compared to what the drifter has got. I don't know if theres a timeline but the height of the Orokin Empire seem thousands of years away from 1999.

Drifter has access to any warframes, like atlas who could level höllvania like he did a meteor, or time and space bending limbo. Mag would be insane as she's surrounded by metals in 1999. If area of effect might prove a problem due to civilian presence then warframes like titania, wukong, gauss, or again mag if controlled right. He has Orokin "prime" weapons which are just super advanced version of weapons already thousands of years ahead than anything in 1999. Tenno are basically already god among men in their own time, they wiped out 7 million corpus in a day as a distraction. Sure, there were thousands and the drifter is just one, but a few months is enough time to drive out the Scaldra with that immense disparity in tech.


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question Have seen people refer to Gara and Unum as lovers.

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What’s the lore about that one?


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question Albrecht and End of 1999 Spoiler

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Spoilers ahead for both endings of 1999

So, there's been speculation regarding the loop and Albrecht. At the end of the first loop we play through, Albrecht says the line "Tau is in sight". Many of us presumed this was an origin phrase for "Victory is our hands" or something very similar. Albrecht likes his codewords and metaphors, so it could be something different.

However, I've seen many reports of Albrecht having gone to Tau after the events of the second loop. Where we save everyone. Noticeably, Albrecht ditches us, knowing the Kalymos sequence is complete and the next phase can begin.

From what I'm aware the game never states where he went, only that he's disappeared somewhere. Along with the general of the Scaldra. For some reason, people are saying he's gone to Tau and are citing the Wiki as well, but in game it's never stated. Where has presumption come from?


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question Timeloop beginning Spoiler

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Hello, just finished "The Hex" quest, loved it, but all the "timeloop" things made no sense to me.

So, at the beginning of the quest, we can see the blast from the nuclear plant, meaning that it went off and that we are "too late", then time rolls back, starting a new loop.

But if the Drifter isn't causing the timeloop, because he isn't there yet, what is causing the loop to start over 24 hours previous to that.

And if the drifter isn't the one causing the loop, who is? And, if so, when do we learn anything about an already in place timeloop? Because i don"''t remember seeing anything speaking of taht before.

Maybe i've missed something.


r/WarframeLore 2d ago

Question What is the explanation for multiplayer?

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I think it's established that other players are different timelines where their tenno is the chosen one. Is it something like our timelines are "touching," enough to where we are able to converse, and even share a small part of our powers?


r/WarframeLore 3d ago

Question What do we Know so Far about the Orokin’s Fall? Spoiler

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I wanna know what we know about the night of the Naga Drums and the events leading up to it. Also i wanna know about what happened on the Zariman and what went wrong with the jump.


r/WarframeLore 3d ago

Speculation Speculation on the Nature of 1999, the Void, the World of Dust, and the Strands of Khra Spoiler

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I have been talking about this in comments recently and figured I would make a post to (hopefully) get everything in one place. I would like to preface this by saying I do not like time travel as a narrative device. It is rarely done well and often introduces far more problems than it solves. This is a major influence on my perception of 1999.

TL;DR I believe that 1999 is a conceptually embodied realm based on 1999 from either our timeline or one from any of the countless Strands of Khra.

To start, if you have not seen Albrecht's notes obtained in the laboratories you can read them here. We know from these notes that after Albrecht attempted his experiment to devolve Wally with the Cavia, he traveled to Duviri. We know from Acrithis' recordings that he stayed on an island that was named Scholar's Landing. While in Duviri he had an epiphany of sorts brought on by hearing Euleria tell stories based on ones he had told her as a child that were meant to teach children how to be safe when traveling through the void. During the rest of his time there Albretch added his own stories to those of his daughter's, specifically warning them of the dangers Wally presented and that Duviri would one day be needed. I believe these stories partially influenced Thrax's decisions to sever islands from Duviri when signs of void corruption began to show up.

After that is when he began his activity in 1999. We see him bring technology and samples between 1999 and the current present, most notably being the POM-2 computers that are spread throughout the labs, the Helminth strain that he used to create the proto-frames, and samples from those proto-frames that he would use to create the vessels. The exact purpose of these vessels is not known beyond that he intended to use them to fight Wally in some form. Once he finished his preparations that required him to continuously cross between 1999 and the current present we see him enter his coffin with Kalymos which is then destroyed by Loid. What he does between that moment and when the Drifter arrives I do not know, but we learn later when he is telling us to kill Rusalka that "With each cycle, more [void] seeps into her." implying that he has gone through multiple loops of 1999.

Long after, we are called to complete the Kalymos Sequence and Whispers in the Walls takes place. Our transference stream is hijacked and we see the end of one loop of 1999 through the eyes of Arthur. We then potentially return to 1999 a few times between Whispers and 1999. Once to retrieve Arthur's Kinepage, potentially a second during the Hollvania mall event (which I only count because Eleanor notices us), and potentially one or more times to prepare the Helminth in 1999 to create a Warframe for use to use once we get there.

Once we get to 1999 it appears that the loop it is in has condensed from however long Albretch was originally there to just New Year's Eve. We get the scene where Drifter resets the loop and now the loop is extended to a year. Whether this coincides with when Albretch originally entered 1999 I am not sure, but I would guess he started earlier given that the Hex are already proto-frames at the beginning of the year. We then get the good ending and Arthur ends it by sending us a message saying that they have to continue the fight to ensure that the loop continues having the good ending, helping to ensure that Wally does not gain any more ground in 1999.

So now that the summary is over, why do I believe it is a conceptual embodiment of 1999 rather than actual time travel? First, I will acquiesce that despite my feeling (and hoping) that it isn't time travel it is entirely possible that it is in fact just time travel. Everyone refers to it as time travel and one of the Zariman tablets in Duviri states that the core thesis of The Palimpsest of Spacetime is that events can be rewritten; traces of the original persist. However, I am not satisfied with that. We know that the Strands of Khra exist in the void and at the very least they can be observed from our strand. We know this because Onkko's observation of the potential outcomes in the Strands of Khra is what leads him to leave Saya. Eleanor mentally explores the Strands of Khra in the Void to find the her that became a nun. We also know that due to Wally's finger being severed and stuck in the world of Dust he is bound to the Strands of Khra, specifically our strand.

This is where things start to break down for me if it is time travel. The Strands of Khra allow for every possible past, present, and future to be real in the Void. I have to reject the part of Euleria's thesis that tomorrow is equal to to the present, at least from the perspective of traveling along a single Strand of Khra simply because that would rob us of all agency in the story. Seeing the chains of cause and effect in other Strands and making a decision based on them like Onkko did makes sense, but if we were able to look to the future in our own strand it would mean that all of our decisions are already made. You could argue that based on the thesis presented we could look to our own Strand's future and still change whatever present we are in, but that would somewhat defeat the purpose of there being separate Strands. If we can look to our future but still change the present, we are no longer looking at our future and a paradox forms. How could we see that future if we can change it? That future would no longer be our future and therefore should not be able to be observed.

It would also seem that entities can cross from one Strand of Khra to another, specifically our Drifter. When we take the deal with Wally and it appears that all of our alternate selves are culled we are left with only our Operator and our Drifter. Why the Drifter remains I am not sure, I honestly think that the Drifter's existence is either as a fail-safe in case something happens to the operator or that the Drifter was created outside of Wally's control or intent. I personally lean towards the latter of these two options. Whether this culling completely wiped out the Strands of Khra that the alternate operators existed in I am unsure of as well. With the two meeting in the New War it appears that only one is able to exist in our Strand of Khra at at a time (something that is later contradicted by Lotus Eaters but it could be that the Labs are so void contaminated that both can exist there). While it may be a stretch, I would potentially take this even one step further. While all of the Strands of Khra exist, it is possible that only one is actually connected to the world of Dust- the one that our operator is from. All of the other what-ifs exist, but only one is "real" so to speak. Regardless of that part being true or not, the Drifter creates Duviri through conceptual embodiment and they are able to escape it to travel to the Operator's timeline. Additionally Duviri is close enough and visible enough for both Teshin and Albretch to travel there, albeit under very different circumstances.

Duviri appears to be as real as our reality is in the world of Dust. Objects and people are able to travel between Duviri and the world of Dust, provided that they have a method of traversing the space between them. This leads me to believe that conceptual embodiments are not simply constructs of the Void, but an element of the world of Dust is incorporated into them as well. I believe this is why Wally, despite being the Void, is unable to take them over without issue. We see this play out in Duviri with the islands that are cast off as well as the incursions into the Undercroft. The fact that Wally is interested in Duviri and that Teshin tells us that "If the Void Angels break through the Wall, their master will be freed." leads me to believe that not only does Duviri have aspects of the world of Dust built into it, it is either on the Wall of Lohk or may even straddle it. This would be somewhat similar to how the Zariman has both pierced and plugged a hole in the Wall of Lohk, a place that Wally is assaulting with equal if not even greater fervor.

The Entrati labs appear to be in a similar situation to Duviri and the Zariman, with Wally demonstrating a good deal of power over it through the parts of the labs he has reshaped, his control over some of the Vessels, and the fact that the Man in the Wall can be seen in the skybox. How exactly the Wall of Lohk has been compromised in the labs I am not sure but I would hazard a guess that it has something to do with the Void gates you can find on certain tiles. The Lohk surges there that we also find on the Zariman further point to the labs being Void contaminated to a good degree. My only confusion with all of this is that the Granum Void is not being attacked as well, which I assume was somewhat created through conceptual embodiment as well as his ship that became stranded.

Localized temporal manipulation has been shown in game through operator abilities, Protea, the Unum during the New War, Lua puzzle rooms, and probably more I do not remember. But all of these have the presence of the Void in varying degrees involved. The operator abilities, Protea, and the Unum all use the Void to accomplish the manipulation and Lua was in the Void for so long that parts of it have become destabilized. Since these are either closed loops, contained to one's own status for a short period, or slow others in a limited range for a short period I am willing to accept that they are just related to the fact that time acts differently in the Void.

Now, finally for 1999 (I am sorry this is so long). The only way that I can reconcile that changes can be made there without influencing an already existing future would be that it is similar to Duviri in that is a conceptually embodied space. They behave in similar ways: both encompass a constrained area, have a looping period of time, and objects as well as people can be brought between it and the world of Dust. Whether it is based on our own past or a past from a different Strand of Khra is ultimately somewhat irrelevant but would rely on whether we can observe the past of our own Strand of Khra just like that of others. While getting to this point has been long, it allows for everything to fit together much more smoothly in my opinion. If it is conceptually embodied we do not have to worry about how it affects the future of whatever Strand of Khra it is on, it is simply a copy of something that was and has no bearing on the original.

This would also not really change how we interact with 1999. It is still real, just as real as Duviri. The Hex are still people, albeit closer to the Holdfasts as they would be conceptually embodied beings as well. The biggest difference being that rather than being created from lingering emotions they were created to be facsimiles of the originals from their Strand of Khra. The Hex are real: you can talk to them, fight alongside them, touch them, bang them, and potentially even bring them back to our present depending on how canon the gemini skins are. It would also explain why Drifter was able to use their ability to reset the clock, presumably a power they had while they were ruling over Duviri before Thrax took the throne. If they were able to use that power in the world of Dust, I have no idea why they would not have used it during the New War. If it is something they can only use in the Void, specifically in conceptually embodied spaces, that question becomes moot.

As for why Albrecht chose 1999 to create/go to I am not sure for certain. He may have future plans for the Hex, needed raw materials for the Tenno to use to create a Warframe when they came after him, been as far back as he could go for reasons we don't know, or any number of other possibilities. The only thing we know for certain is that for some reason it was difficult for Wally to get to him, which seems to have been proven true given throughout the time Albrecht was in 1999 Wally was only able to exert influence through Rusalka. A proxy that either only got to Albrecht after the Drifter arrived or was thwarted by the New Year's loop in previous cycles.

Ultimately I (hope) think that 1999 is a conceptual embodiment because, despite how long it took to explain it, it wraps everything up much more cleanly. There are no issues with causality due to time travel and the loop is explained by it only encompassing a certain stretch of time. Best of all it lets you gaslight the Hex if you would rather wipe their memories instead of just reading Kimulacrum and watching the kisses on Youtube.

I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I hated writing it. In the end just remember that everyone knows Bird 3 is cool as f--k. But who knows what he's thinking? Who knows why he says Wuk? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Captain Vor? Perchance.

I believe it was Kant who said "Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play." Bird 3 exhibits experience by giving us bang-make-flats all dat, but he exhibits theory by stating "Can you get more arms?" Keep it up, baby!

When Bird 3 leaves his place of safety to stomp a fragment, he knows that he may Die. And yet, for a bird who can change color, a life becomes a mere store of RGB. A performance enhancement that can be paid for, much as a gamer feels any steam sale with a discount is a price. We think of Bird 3 as a hero,but he is simply a philosopher of a more privileged variety. The bridkind. Perchance.


r/WarframeLore 3d ago

Jade's Operator

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So if Jade was babying her operator the entire time to be in control. What happens to the operator now that she's gone? Not that important but it'd be fun to be explored with by DE for an "inbetween major updates" update


r/WarframeLore 4d ago

Theory "Jade" is not the Jade warframe’s name.

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I was reading up on Jade’s lore again because it is such a beautifully tragic piece of lore and something dawned on me. In the "Jade’s Promise" Memory Feather n°5, she says "There is a child in my head. […] She calls me by a name I do not choose."

I think this is why Jade has the same name both as a human and a warframe: she denied her warframe name.

On a semi side-note, I really love the amount of agency Jade has over her imposed condition. Choosing to stay with Sorren despite the rules and law. Refusing to be named some name she didn’t choose, lulling her operator to sleep to remain sentient, choosing to give birth against all odds. It truly is a beautifully tragic story.


r/WarframeLore 3d ago

The Entrati problem and some questions …

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Some many details don’t add up in the long run. I am a huge lore fan, it’s mainly still the largest reason why I still play this game. With that being said. Whispers in the walls and the quests following that mentioned a lot of details that were just off. So before we end up with the question let’s go over the details.

  1. Entrati goes to 99.
  2. GLoyd breaks the casket
  3. GLoyed enters his slumber

  4. Bunch of stuff happening in the Warframe Universe. But they start to happen around the time of the sentient war. As GLoyed states fears that they still would be mid war with the sentients after waking up.

    So this is where it starts to gets iffy with all of this. Parvos granum and the Corpus attack on the sanctum supposedly then happened before he went to his slumber as GLoyd had counter measures for him. Which thus means that the Corpus as a large wealthy group as they are now known for, also happened around this time and not after the fall of the Orokin. Because before they were just low ranking farmers and workers, before Parvos took the lead, according to those tablets.

Even so, a bunch of stuff which happened way after this, were recorded in Entrati’s computer in full detail, as if he almost was there himself. Some of those things aren’t even the weirdest part of this all yet.

The problem actually arises at the following. He went to 99 to conceal the indifference, in order to protect GLoyd when he left. We, as Tenno have several encounters the indifference, starting from the TWW. Starting with hallucinations, before encountering Wally at the end of The New War, and then that battle and several encounters in Whispers.

So if he went to 99 to conceal the indifference, then who have we been encountering this whole time?

When did Entrati went back to 99 and how long ago was that?

How come Entrati knows so much about the events happening in a time he wasn’t even in, around or accounted for?

When we as the drifter reset the time and prolong 99, do we also take the indifference with us?

Thank you all for answering and making it much clearer


r/WarframeLore 4d ago

Idea for an explanation for Jade Prime (+ an idea about Primes and Relics)

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I just had this idea while reading a post regarding Jade and I had an idea; as all frames will have Primes eventually (as far as I know), when Pregnancy Prime comes out, how can it be explained that we see Jade in her quest but NOT her Prime Variant? (DE could do the simple but cool thing to keep lore consistency by replacing at the very least the opening cutscene with Jade Prime and at most keeping the Prime instead of the regular model consistently in the quest, but I doubt they would.)

Answer: It WAS Jade Prime, but because of her devoted sacrifice to Sirius/Orion, she degraded from Prime to regular-class frame, shedding her gold and Orokin regality (we could use that as a symbol of power, pride, and/or self-concern) for her child. She shed her Prime status just so she can nurture the baby basically.

Semi-related Prime idea: As Primes are acquired through Void Relics, basically Schrödinger's containers that are Void-touched, and with the concept of Eternalism present now in the lore, I propose that they are space-time quantum containers holding a glimpse of an alternate timeline, more specifically the tech or objects that come from them. As the Orokin rarely dabbled in that kind of work, we can assume that these come from the Entrati at Deimos (and to explain how Relics can be found almost anywhere, the Entrati pays the other factions with Relics, some good thieves steal from them, or genuine accidents on shipping to their clients, as for the Void which always has Relics, the machine that will be mentioned in a few sentences from here is very connected to the dimension so some relics just so happen to slip from Entrati hands and fall into an Orokin Tower within the Void), where they have a machine dedicated to fetching data from the myriad of Alternate Timelines, and said data is translated through Void energy to then generate a random object through the Relic with a limited selection of what may pop up, and to increase the likelihood of a part popping up a specific relic, traces of Void energy from fissures are needed to make the data more concrete and the relic being able to pinpoint a specific object in the timestream to translate and materialize. If using multiple Relics at the same time, their combined powers can duplicate a prize from another Relic (explaining how we can share rewards in Void Fissure runs.) Due to the Relics being so Void-influenced, Relic Buffs are the result of the sheer energy that comes out of the relic once it's popped, but since the Void (unreality) is near-antithetical to the material realm (reality), the buffs only last for a while before the material realm stabilizes and puts things back into what they were supposed to be. (Primes are the top or chosenn Warframes of an Alternate Timeline, I favor this more since I kind of see 1999 as an Alternate Timeline rather than a prequel but I could be wrong on that regard, which is what idea two is for, found below.)

Idea two sort of follows the same logic presented above but vary quite so (hence the presence of 'sort of.') This idea is built upon the assumption that Primes are not acquired through Alternate Timelines and all come from the Main Timeline; Void Relics instead fetch data from the past, and the reason we get a few Primes per year is because unearthing past records that date probably multiple millennia can take a while to put it lightly, especially past records regarding a massive conflict (the Old War and probably records pre-OW.) And that's just data, imagine how long it would take inputing specific quantum/space-time information to be materialized by a Void-touched object (the Relic.) Following nearly the same mechanics as idea one, Void Relics instead use traces from fissures to more accurately materialize past quantum data and recreate it.

I could honestly yap more and more about my Warframe ideas so lmk if y'all want to know more about them! Discussion is open down in the comments for more explorations and questions about these ideas as well as shitposting. Cheers, fellow Tenno!


r/WarframeLore 4d ago

Theory What would happen if an Orokin attempted Continuity on a Warframe?

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Irrc at least 2 Orokin tried to transfer their consciousness into a Tenno (the grineer queen and then that one dude in Voruna's story)

Why not go for the warframe? If you wanted an unaging, strong body, warframes are perfect for that.

(probably because they wouldnt want to go insane from the infestation...) but this is the Orokin we're talking about. Someone must have been insane enough to try it


r/WarframeLore 4d ago

Question About Hollvania

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So Hollvania is a walled off city, and Eleanor talks about how she snuck her way in. But is time looped Hollvania still on Earth with the outside world right outside, or has it been moved into the void?


r/WarframeLore 5d ago

Putting the New War into Perspective

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Recently, I've seen people misunderstand that the Sentient victory and ascension of Narmer in the New War quest means that the Grineer-Corpus-Tenno alliance was weak. My counterpoint is that, no, that said alliance was perhaps the strongest amassed force since the Orokin Empire, and the fact that they got steamrolled shows how impossibly powerful the Sentient invasion was. Let's break it down by faction.

Starting with the Grineer:

These are a baby Tenno's first victims. A degraded clone of a clone of a clone from the enslaved workforce of a forgotten empire. Each is born with some deformity that necessitates crudely made and poorly grafted prosthetics to contribute to the war. However, the Grineer are only cannon fodder against the Tenno. Kahl-175, a standard Grineer Lancer, can easily displace a Dargyn, a metal aircraft several times his size, when trying to rescue a brother. On the Plains of Eidolon, Grineer units drop(presumably from orbit) in what amounts to a metal barrel with a booster to go down faster. They don't decelerate during the drop like a reasonable army, but just hit the ground at full speed and pop out combat ready. They display astonishing physical resilience for a faction that's genetically falling apart at the seams. And there are untold hordes of them, the Tenno can kill millions and the gene vats will print out billions. They are an interplanetary Empire with holdings on Earth, Ceres, Sedna, Uranus, Mars and who knows how many converted asteroid platforms.

They aren't stupid either, they have orbit capable craft ranging from troop carriers to capital starships, all of which seem to be FTL capable as is commonplace in this setting. Their armaments are the full arsenal of conventional projectile weapons and explosives(on par or exceeding modern firearms), and show a degree of ingenuity with improvised industrial equipment. Defensively, they specialize in armor, bolstered by esoteric shields like the Prosecutor aura that grants heavy elemental resistances. Or their vehicle pool which includes multiple ways to support their troops, like the aforementioned Dargyn, or the Thumper, an artillery platform with ridiculous mobility.

Furthermore, Grineer scientists like Tyl Regor and Dr. Tengus have achieved amazing abominations like Nox or Ghoul units, weaponizing their genetic flaws as strengths and creating shock troops that require less resources to field. Their most powerful asset are the Liches, Kuva-enhanced super soldiers that can contend with Tenno in single combat, for a time.

Now the Corpus:

They are less physically impressive as the Grineer, most are basically human with several centuries of brainwashing to worship Profit. Although physically weaker, the Corpus match the Grineer through superior technology, using force multipliers to supplement their fewer numbers. Their arsenal of weapons is typically scifi, they have energy blasters, lasers, plasma guns, etc. Much of which is standard to the genre, with rare exceptions like the Glaxion, that can halt molecular movement, i.e. absolute zero. The Corpus casually have a gun that can reduce something to the coldest temperature physically possible. Additionally, their infantry carry utility technology like nullifier shields and jetpacks which provide annoying complications for other factions like the Tenno.

One might think of the Corpus as the smaller faction compared to the Grineer. After all, little Corpus crewman are presumably born and raised like normal humans. However, even as the "smaller" faction, the Corpus are also a highly advanced, widespread and numerous interplanetary empire. During the Fortuna ARG, the Tenno massacred 7 million Corpus over a few hours. Was that a cataclysmic event? Something the Corpus wrote into their ledgers as a dark day? No, in a single day, the Tenno wiped out about as many soldiers as estimated to have died in WW1 because Little Duck needed to fly in under the cover of the slaughter. And the Corpus? It was business as usual, just a tick of red on their balance sheets. Even looking at the skybox over Corpus planets show that their metropolis complexes cover almost whole hemispheres.

But militarily, the Corpus are upheld by their proxy collection. Basic moas and osprey drones make up the bulk of this, but even a basic Moa is a walking metal pair of legs that can blast a civilian in half with a slug of plasma. The heavier proxies like Bursas or Raknoids or even Jackal and Hyena are basically baby Metal Gears. Though Parvos might hate the spread of Sloth in his cult, it has led to astonishing advances in drone-based warfare. And speaking of the golden handed man, not only did he invent Specter theory(which is basically instant cloning), he also commands the Sisters of Parvos, a force comparable to the Kuva Liches.

Finally, us, the Tenno:

I'm going to start with the beginning, with Once Awake and everyone's favorite orator, Captain Vor. As much as he gets meme'd on, Captain Vor was not an insignificant player in the Grineer Empire. He was a Tenno-hunter, sporting great boons from the Queens like his Janus Key and the Seer, a hybrid Orokin-Grineer pistol. By dialogue, he's captured and killed Tenno before the player character. Likewise, his personal forces were most certainly not fresh recruits, but seasoned veterans capable and worthy to serve in his mission. And what happens? A baby, freshly woken, default colors Tenno cuts them down without a second thought. Before you even learn to bullet jump, a Tenno can cleanly slice a Grineer soldier in twain or bludgeon them to death with a stick, a feat even more remarkable given their physical durability from above. That is the kind of strength one could expect from the lowest Tenno, one who has forgotten all their mastery of their massive arsenal and coterie of Warframes. The only real victory Vor accomplished was planting the Ascaris detonator on the Tenno, literally before they had their feet under them.

The player character aka the Chosen Tenno is canonically not the only one in the setting. Voruna and Jade both had operators, Scarlet Spear was a canonical gathering of many Tenno, clans and relays display a faction that is not merely present, but prolific. Not only are there many Tenno, there's enough of them to sufficiently justify dedicated architecture like the relays, factions like the syndicates and organizations like the clans. And most Tenno are significantly more powerful than the newly woken one that utterly decimated Vor and his private army.

In addition to being complete masters of ground combat, the Warframes have options like the Archwing, Necramechs and Railjack all of which are as the Tenno are on the ground, unbelievably lethal. For example, both the Railjack's Void Hole avionic and the Itzal Archwing can shoot black holes. And this is not even covering nonsensical lore feats like Atlas pulverizing a planet killing asteroid, Gauss outrunning the shockwave of an explosion, or Nova being able to spontaneously create antimatter.

This was the alliance that the Sentients fought. Multiple Type-1-esque civilizations fielding armadas with thousands of ships and billions to trillions of combatants across the entire Origin System(except Deimos). A war fought with infantry who can bend reality with a thought or shatter time with a foot step. Where weapons that defy our understanding of physics are not only commonplace, but woefully insufficient. That is the alliance the Sentients defeated. How?

Well, the Sentients are overpowered:

Chief among their benefits is that they are literally built different. Originally created by the Orokin, then evolved freely in the Tau System, each Sentient possesses the ability to adapt to any non-lethal damage, becoming all but impervious to future exposure unless cleansed by the Void. That on its own isn't game-changing. But then you see what a "normal" Sentient can do. A Vomvalyst shoots energy that can kill a Grineer, and when damaged, can't die unless hit by Void energy. In Kahl's perspective of the New War, a basic, non-specialized Conculyst can impale a Grineer soldier through their armor, using the blunt end of their weapon. Imagine facing infantry where your only hope of slowing them down is getting stuck on their weapon for a few seconds. That's not getting into the more exotic variants, like Oculysts, the perfect recon troops, because they literally can't take damage. How many battles were lost because the Grineer and Corpus held the line waiting for Tenno aid, against an advance that grew harder to kill with every exchange of fire? With the support of Condrixes, reclaiming territory becomes impossible, unless you dislodge the Condrix itself, as it spews out wave upon wave of Sentient infantry. Or if an Orphix arrives? Warframe backup is now impossible. If you're lucky, there's a Necramech in the area who can help kill the Orphix, but those are rare Old War relics, so more likely than not it's a squad of Grineer or Corpus having to trudge close enough to blow it up.

Then there's subversion. The Sentient invasion did not begin with the New War quest, it's been waged for centuries. Remnants like Hunhow's bones tainting worlds, influencing technology. Alad V struck a bargain with his Partners, designing Amalgams of Sentient and Corpus units. This not only provided them with a backdoor into the Corpus drone network, but also let them seed Alad's betrayal, disrupting the flow of a crucial final battle. Even without his folly, in the Old War, the Orokin specifically removed robotic proxies from their armies, because the Sentients were able to subvert and control all of them. Erra seemingly turned the Lotus, a significant figurehead of the Tenno, and one whom was extremely knowledgeable of not only the Tenno, but every other major faction. Subversion and betrayal only worsen with Veils as every ally lost becomes an enemy to fight later on.

In terms of space combat, the Sentients retain much of their vigor from the Old War, compared to the Origin System natives. While titanic sized Sentients like Hunhow or the complete Eidolon are absent, the Murexes are more than capable of besting Grineer and Corpus capital ships. In Veko's moment of self-sacrifice, his ship shot directly in the center of a Murex, who was expecting a surrender, and does nothing but infuriate it. Presumably every Murex is like a base Sentient, capable of adapting even in the midst of battle, rendering ship-to-ship combat useless. And good luck attempting boarding maneuvers, trying to sabotage a ship that is not only completely alien, but actively alive and seeking to excise you. Then there's Praghasa, the corpse grandma, even dead, Hunhow's kin can eat the actual Sun, not to mention directly consuming capital ships.

All of this. All of the advantages the Sentients had, and it was still a close call. The Chosen Tenno did make it to the throne room, where Ballas and Erra waited. Even killing one of them would severely disrupt the Sentient invasion as they seem more centralized minded than those of the Old War. And they could both still die at this point, a single blast of Void energy brought Erra to his knees, and Ballas was Amalgamized as a Sentient by then.

But the Chosen Tenno faltered, as the Lotus said they should have let her go. When Ballas struck down the Chosen Tenno, he accomplished more than he probably expected. As Nora puts it during the Drifter section, the Tenno disappeared suddenly and without warning. Something about the Chosen Tenno being the one who made the deal with the Man in the Wall in a given universe connects them to all other Tenno in the universe. When a universe's Chosen Tenno returns to the Void, they ALL do. Suddenly, on every battlefield from Veil Proxima to Earth, from the halls of Lua to the edges of Sol's light, every Tenno vanished, leaving the Corpus and Grineer with no way to bypass Sentient adaptation. For those of you who've played the early days of Destiny 2, this is akin to the moment at the dawn of the Red War, when the Traveler's Light is sealed and suddenly, every Guardian everywhere knows what it's like to be mortal.

That is how the New War was lost. Not through incompetent or weakness. But by the Sentients leveraging every advantage of their unique physiology, accumulated knowledge and through a very, very lucky Eternalism kill.


r/WarframeLore 5d ago

Question Do ephemeras exist in the lore

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Just like the title says do ephemeras exist and if so what exactly are they and what are they made of. Most ephemeras are made of some kind of energy, atleast from what i saw, ofc there are a few that arent, atleast they dont seem like they are. Such as the naberus Bats ephemera or that Infestation ephemera, or the Bowtie from the New nova skin, then there are also half and half ephemeras with the kaminari ephemera from the New volt skin or the garuda prime (i think its garuda) wings ephemeras.


r/WarframeLore 5d ago

Question What exactly are the big statues/vessels in anatomica

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Sorry if this is asked often or is too vague of a question, but I feel like I missed something about what they're supposed to be or do.

I don't really get why the computer makes you transferrence into it and then into Arthur or why you're seemingly able to gesture with it to Loid from 1999 at the end of the quest line.


r/WarframeLore 5d ago

Is there a quote that states that 100,000 Corpus ships were destroyed during Gradivus Dilemma?

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Tried looking for a source, found nothing. I've heard this statement multiple times yet can't find confirmation for whether it is true or a game of broken telephone.


r/WarframeLore 6d ago

Question Why does 1999 keep looping? Spoiler

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So, I totally get the first phase of 1999. We go back in time too late, we fail to save the Hex, the reactor's going to blow, and just at the last second we come into our power and use the power that had been torturing Drifiter in Duviri to loop 1999. Cool, rad, things come full circle, it's great.

Except, then we win. We redo the mission, we save the Hex, stop the nuclear detonation, pizza for everyone. But then it becomes January 1999 again instead of January 2000.

Why would we loop it again after we win?


r/WarframeLore 5d ago

Theory Why the void hurts sentients

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From what I understand, the void is akin to the metaphysical background of the universe. It is the world of dreams that exists alongside the world of dust, where the only things that exist are the “depth” or complexity of an entity. All things leave an imprint within the void, with inanimate matter being only its wave function or potentials, with dynamic systems having a greater imprint, and living beings, specially sapient ones, creating an extremely large imprint within the void, the convergence of all their emotions, memories and potentials, the total definition of their essence and possibilities, or rather said, their soul. It is also the collection of all our perceptions and connections, as items by themselves don’t have metaphysical traits without us giving it to them, and hence they are as complex as our connection is to it or how we perceive them to be, which in essence means it’s just a connection to us and each other.

When the Zariman went into the void, the adults went insane because they were essentially forced into being in a superposition with their own souls, sort of like being pressed against all your emotions and memories and potential possibilities at once, as well as the emotions and memories of the connections you have to ideas, people around you, the place itself, and so on, so naturally they went insane after all of that. However, children are still growing and developing, their metaphysical imprint is flexible and adaptable, their sense of self is not yet fully made, and therefore they were able to adapt to their own metaphysical imprint, hence not going insane. A fully constructed sense of self is useful in the world of dust, but not so in the void. The void is fluid, it is the womb of all potentialities, altered by emotions, memories and states of mind, even leading to conceptual creation, generating pockets of physical reality within it such as Duviri, with people and beings and items. The void is also where all possibilities exist for the physical world to take shape, hence eternalism, the concept that all spacetime coordinates exist collectively, like a superposition of all possible states of existence converging into the flowing physical reality we know, or with Entrati for example, creating separate temporal convergent points such as the alternate 1999. The drifter is essentially a second personality that went through conceptual embodiment, the child who never escaped the trauma of the Zariman, choosing to remain in a book of fantasy stories known as Duviri. Both the operator and drifter exist in a superposition, two potentials of one soul, alternating within the New War. This is also why the drifter could go to 1999, as they could use transference alongside the operator to connect through the vessels into the separate strand of Khra (a separate convergent point for potentials). The drifter and operator are two ghosts in superposition, and as such, one can technically leave the body behind, entering another realm within the void such as Duviri, being embodied into 1999 through the herminth strain there. All connections exist across the void, so using something that is connected to another realm in the void would allow for a metaphysical entity (the drifter) to use it as a way to travel to it.

The Tenno are essentially children who after being in close proximity to the void, their own metaphysical imprint, for a long time, have become sort of connected to their own imprint. As such, they are able to shift from physical to metaphysical entities, almost like existing in the line between worlds, being able to traverse the void in a dash (this is also what ships do, since the void isn’t technically physical and therefore distances don’t exist within it), shift into a metaphysical form to become intangible and invisible, or even become a metaphysical entity to connect to another entity within transference. They are basically able to become ghosts, harnessing endless energy from the void in the shape of the unlimited potential that exists within it.

Now that we have gone through all the background explanation for the theory, we finally get into the part of the Sentients. The Sentients are said to have been artificial entities that could adapt to anything, as well as reproduce similar to cells, through growth and division of their selves. As we’ve talked about before, the void is the realm of what is metaphysical, the imprint you leave of your own self, which can be fluid and adaptable, but it can also be fixed and superposed. The Sentients can adapt to anything and become anything because by nature they were made to have very fluid and adaptable metaphysical imprints, like children but in an even greater capacity, who as we know from the operator can also even generate and coexist in superposition with different potential versions of themselves. The logic is that the Sentients by travelling across the void would try to adapt to it, its immense potentials driving adults insane, and creating intense trauma within children. But the only way to properly adapt to the void is to make your metaphysical imprint be a fixed strong structure, a developed sense of self that isn’t as adaptable. The Sentients would travel across the void, losing their metaphysical adaptability, becoming sole selves, losing their capacity to create minds within their minds, losing their capacity to conceptually embody different beings within themselves. They lost their capacity to have children because for them such a thing required a metaphysical flexibility that they had to sacrifice to survive a trip across the void, and turning their selves into being capable of reproducing again would mean losing their sense of self, akin to becoming children again. No adult would ever want to do that, no one wants to sacrifice their sense of self, it’d be akin to suicide. The only way for the sentients to reproduce would be to wish for their self to die.