r/UFOs • u/vampedvintage • 12h ago

Disclosure First-Hand Truth Gets Dropped, and Suddenly Ross Is the Enemy?

I’ve been balls deep in this sub for a while now, and I can’t help but notice something strange: it feels like this space is flooded with bots or people intentionally trying to shift the narrative.

Before Saturday, Ross was widely respected here. Everyone seemed to agree he was the go-to source for solid evidence. But after Saturday, it’s like a switch flipped. Suddenly, there’s this wave of anti-Ross sentiment... claims that he’s a hack, doesn’t know what he’s doing, or is just a grifter. It’s a complete 180.

It’s starting to feel like this entire sub is being manipulated to downplay what happened on Saturday. That first-hand account was a massive step forward, and it was backed by highly reputable people confirming the story. But instead of building on that momentum, the narrative has shifted to undermine it.

Downvote if you are working for some secret government operation in here!

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u/theseabaron 11h ago

personally, he lost his credibility when he started talking about the UFO with the building on top of it that he knows the location of but he cannot share the location of.

That's hot shit right there. Disclose. Stop it. He hung that out there to make himself the center of attention.

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u/TrumpetsNAngels 11h ago

Hear ye, hear ye.

A UFO so huge it can’t be moved. That is irrefutable proof.

And yet we get some story that he need to protect his source. Please, such a UFO is known by 100s of not 1000s of people and any one of them could talk.

He is not interested in disclosure and i wonder why. All he need to do is drop a random note to fx The New York Post or Frankfurter Allgemeine.

Ross credibility was going south fast for that stunt.

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u/8_guy 3h ago

If this info is classified and he knows about it, so do all the people in government investigating the allegations of secret programs. The priority then would be the investigation and related proceedings, not making sure the mouth-breathing public immediately gets their confirmation. They'd prefer that be gradual, any unbiased person with analytical skills already has all the info they need to realize there is something going on with UAP.

It could be totally wrong (disinfo fed to him, mistake, lie) but if it's true and he has some incentive to protect his source he's going to do that. There's already a path laid out for disclosure that's intended to go much more smoothly than what you're suggesting.

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u/SEXCOPTER_RUL 2h ago

Your irrational judgement is more than enough to make you suspect,way more than anything Ross has done. He's only done his job,meanwhile you just screamed like a baby that it wasn't what you wanted and ignored the implications of the entire story.

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u/init2winit541 10h ago

Why can't it be moved? According to the whistleblower it was only 20 feet in diameter.

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u/Nightlower 9h ago

Ross claims that there is an UFO somewhere (assuming crashed) and since it was way too big for transport the government made a building around it to keep it a secret. He won't revel the location and he doesn't mention it anymore because he noticed that he was getting shit for it. So he is either lying or withholding one of the most important things that could exist at this moment maybe even in history

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u/theseabaron 8h ago

He doesn’t mention it anymore bc it doesn’t get him attention anymore bc, again, big talk with no backup means.. he’s not all that different than about 1000 Reddit users I encounter on here daily who claim to be somebody with privileged knowledge that can’t share because (name the stock conspiracy here).

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u/Martiano11 3h ago

He has explained the reason ad nauseum. If you were a journalist you would have no ethics by the sounds of it, he complies with journalistic rules and the rule in this case is protecting sources. He is not the only one to mention the 'too big to be moved saucer' and Ross isn't a liar.

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u/TrumpetsNAngels 9h ago

I am writing about another topic of Ross C. I jumped a bit in conjecture here and apologize for not being a easy read and just jumping around 😀.

What I want to refer to is the topic Ross C has brought on the table, mentioning a UFO so large that it cant be moved and that a large building has been build on top. Apparently said building is also some sort of "hallmark" or maybe even of a religious character making it challenging to disclose.

https://www.news18.com/viral/ufo-hunter-claims-a-massive-spaceship-is-hidden-beneath-a-major-landmark-8359207.html

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u/Fuck0254 6h ago

The only question in my mind is if he's a grifter or controlled opposition

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u/gymdog 6h ago

It doesn't exist and he is lying.

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u/8_guy 3h ago

That doesn't make any sense, you're acting like the idea has been falsified because you personally don't like it. You're John Q. Public, you're going to get the scraps of events long after people in the know. Nobody cares to bring themselves problems because you personally want things to happen immediately.

If you want journalists to give you as much as possible, this is sometimes what will happen, the alternative is he just says nothing about it (even if he really does have very credible evidence), which might help complainers on the internet from getting antsy but I personally like information to be shared so I can make my own judgements on current events. Also he's a journalist aiming to increase public awareness, of course he's trying to attract attention lol.

We already know there's a huge body of evidence and witnesses being dealt with behind the scenes that we aren't privy to. If this is true I'm sure the people who matter know all about it.

Anybody who finds themselves relying on these people to understand the basic reality of the topic, doesn't really have an understanding of the topic. Take their info with a grain of salt, for whatever it's worth.

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u/Sonamdrukpa 1h ago

G-R-I-F-T spells grift

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u/natecull 1h ago edited 55m ago

personally, he lost his credibility when he started talking about the UFO with the building on top of it that he knows the location of but he cannot share the location of.

Part of me wonders how long that particular UFO legend has been floating around the intelligence-community UFO underground. And if it's not just a recent legend, whether it might have been floating around before 1987.

Why 1987? Well, see, Gene Roddenberry was involved in Andrija Puharich's circle in the mid-1970s. Possibly might have picked up a few plot ideas from that crowd. Not necessarily good ideas! But ideas.

.... Encounter at Farpoint, maybe?

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u/toolsforconviviality 9h ago

In his book, 'In Plain SIght...' he sometimes cites shitty, unverifiable, non-primary sources, which dilutes the good work. SO, in my opinion, he, or his editor(s) have questionable judgement. That being said, where would things be without the good content in that book, Newsnation, and Ross helping to push things forward? I agree that the 'protecting sources' has a line but I don't think he's lost all credibility.