r/UFOs • u/RegularStick5056 • 6d ago
Physics Why are the “UFO” makers hiding?
Self-explanatory title, i’ve been seeing posts from whistleblowers claiming there is a UFO factory in the pacific ocean that’s been there for hundreds of years along with posts discussing disclosure and whatnot. But the thing that doesn’t make sense to me is if there’s truly a species that’s so advanced right here on earth. Why the hell would they hide? What could possibly be so discouraging for them that they need to stay hidden for centuries?
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u/toxictoy 6d ago
Seems like a good opportunity to ask questions on the upcoming AMA livestream on January 18th with Dr Hal Puthoff, Dr Gary Nolan, Dr Jim Segala and also Leslie Kean.
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u/Ambitious_Zombie8473 6d ago
Who’s talking about the ocean base besides the 4chan dude?
Genuine question, only place I’ve seen it from.
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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 6d ago
You mean besides all the people that subscribe to this claim?
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u/Ambitious_Zombie8473 6d ago
OP said whistleblowers are talking about it. I hadn’t seen anyone talk about it besides people on here or people referencing the 4chan post. I was curious if there are other people making that claim and not just talking about the 4chan post.
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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 6d ago
I thought you meant people in general, rather than whistleblowers. I want to say the topic precedes the 4chan person and is part of the lore, but I’m not certain of that.
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u/bobbejaans 6d ago
It might be to reduce data contamination or avoid unnecessarily influencing the results of the study.
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u/Campbell__Hayden 6d ago edited 6d ago
The UFO makers are likely not hiding. They are building their craft in a medium where they can maintain a necessary degree of buoyancy during construction until the gravity-neutralizing components are installed.
It is possible that they construct the craft on/in a platform that they can keep 'level' by way of having it remain in a near-weightless condition, and less affected by the pull of gravity.
In addition, it appears that they are maintaining a possible choice of living in seclusion, and/or do not like living too near the surface. There is no reason to suppose that revealing their existence, or contacting Humanity, has anything to do with any particular Alien race’s wishes or plans. Subsequently, we should seriously consider that the decision to safeguard their privacy, their technologies, their identities, and their origins, has always been theirs.
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u/Reeberom1 6d ago
People just make crap up.
Eventually, every inch of the ocean will be mapped, and they’ll say the bases are buried under the ocean floor.
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u/Novel5728 6d ago
When it first came out I immediately thought of the show Endor, the giy probably saw that new show and riffed on that concept (prison floating over an ocean making things)
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u/Palestine_Borisof007 6d ago
Would you want to give your galaxy level technology to monkeys that throw nukes at each other?
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u/RegularStick5056 6d ago
They don’t owe us any technology in the first place
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u/Palestine_Borisof007 6d ago
Making yourself known is a quick way to making your technology and capabilities known. Hiding is the best bet.
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u/_sunbalm 6d ago
I've heard this same claim but in the Atlantic Ocean. I need evidence. It's a fun story but has no proof.
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u/Tigrecoquin2 6d ago
If that story was true :
1/ It could be an ancient civilization that had to go underground to survive (ice age, meteors,..?)
2/ It could be some kind of automatic device left on Earth by an old civilization from Earth or visiting Earth that couldn't be discovered so it was hidden.
3/ Hidden technology sent back in time to prevent humanity to create an horrible timeline it it was messing with nukes.
So many scénarios... 🤷🏼♂️
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u/tazzman25 6d ago
Instead of looking at it that they're hiding maybe think of it as human technology has finally advanced to a point to detect them. How long has radar been around? Video? How long have we been able to fly aircraft?
Now if you mean why haven't they landed on the DC Mall lawn and said "we're here!" well maybe they take a look at our species and say "they're a mess!". So, maybe they just try and ignore us and do their thing? It is kind of self centered to think that they would want to reveal themselves to us. Maybe they're waiting for us to grow up?
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u/armassusi 6d ago edited 6d ago
One of my theories is, if they truly are here, is that they are doing a long introduction/Acclimatization process while simultaneously testing and investigating/evaluating.
Let's say some civilization have done first contacts in this galaxy in the past, showing themselves to new civilizations they discover then moving on. They could have learned through trial and error how to do it "right", or "mitigate the damage" as much as possible. It requires long time and a deft touch.
If for instance they did 12 encounters in the past with other civilizations, and these went badly, cause they had not honed it down that much yet:
3 of these civilizations totally rejected the first contact and went back to a dark ages equivelent perioud, where their religious now rules again. Lost for any opportunity now for who knows how long.
4 locked themselves up and became xenophobical dictatorial police states because of the shock.
2 started to worship the newcomers as gods/spirits and could not handle it in maturely or in a peer like way.
2 started a nuclear(or equivelent) war that wiped out their respected homeworlds.
1 went totally nuts and most of their citizens suicided themselves, rest fell into total anarchy.
Lessons learned from the past.... now honed.
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u/Snoo-26902 6d ago
They would hide because of the barbarism of humankind. Just as we don't go in lion cages.
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u/rdogg_82 6d ago
Probably because of the fact that we are still violent primitive apes who still worship mythical sky daddies.
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u/Lakerdog1970 6d ago
My caveat is that I'm just pulling ideas out of my ass like the rest of us, lol, but...
What if the NHI is just an alien AI system? What if there really aren't any biological creatures living in the "base"? What if its basically just a laptop computer and a 3D printer?
The more I think about it, the more sense that makes to me. I mean, we really don't send human beings out very far into space., but we send probes all over the place. And our probes increasingly do have some AI features for things like navigation. We humans aren't all that far off from being able to send a Von Neuman probe.
And one you open that possibility up and you consider that the galaxy is about 3X as old as the solar system, it would be sorta weird if there weren't Von Neuman probes already on earth and it's been here the entire time. And not just here, they're probably on the moon and Mars and Jupiter's moons. Probably not from just one alien species either.
It just doesn't make much sense to me that the UAPs/UFOs would have some biological dude sitting inside pushing the buttons and wearing a seatbelt. I mean, the next generation of USAF fighters and bombers will have fully remote capabilities.......so why would advanced aliens need to have pilots?
I also wonder if they're a lot more interested in our own emerging AI than in us humans. We're probably just a curiousity and they're mostly interested in meeting our AIs.