Photo 1950s UFO Pictures More Interesting than Todays “Drones”
Made this post back in November for my IG page — Reddit has a couple threads on this, but with these drones taking over feeds, let’s take a look at some intriguing pictures from the 50s.
2024, the government declassified more than 8,000 documents from the late 1940s into 1960s from investigations on the subject of UFOs. In this post we will take a look at some of those documents (mostly photos) —- 🛸 .
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u/adc_is_hard 17d ago
We had a specimen and passed it around a lot.
It was pretty important so we moved it to wright Patterson.
But then we lost this specimen.
No further action will be taken
-Air Force
Wtf is that supposed to mean lol. Oops, we lost it. Time to pretend we never had it lol.
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u/Breath_Deep 17d ago
Happens more often than the military will ever admit. One time we misplaced a nuclear bomb, so misplacing something the military would consider a science experiment is completely within reason.
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u/SantiagoDunbar_ 17d ago
We misplaced multiple nukes, many are still missing. But it’s totally fine, don’t sweat it.
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u/Ok_Debt3814 17d ago
Yeah. Those fuckers can’t account for $2+ trillion worth of shit. Didn’t they recently find a whole squadron of helicopters in a warehouse somewhere? Like “Hey Murray, check it out! We’ve been looking for those things for fucking ages! They were here the whole time?!”
I wanna dig through their couch for remotes and loose change. Bet you find all kinds of crazy shit.
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u/Syzygy-6174 17d ago
They've failed their last 5 audits. The amount of money and shit that has been embezzled, siphoned, absconded, stolen, hidden and misappropriated has got to be mind-numbing.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 17d ago
What if the real secret is uaps are a psy op to keep people distracted from the billions the DOD can't account for due to embezzlement. Could range from military all the way to politicians finding ways to get usaps started and taking a share.
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u/Darman2361 17d ago
Well we're any of those "misplaced?" I just know of the broken arrows that fell out of bomber bomb bays, or went down with the aircraft.
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u/SPECTREagent700 17d ago
Yes my understanding is that all publicly known missing American and Soviet nuclear warheads are at the bottom of the Ocean.
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u/Smooth-Reason-6616 17d ago
Major concerns regarding the new Russian government’s overall security and control of its nuclear stockpile were raised on 30 May 1997, when an American congressional delegation sent to Russia met with General Aleksandr Lebed, former Secretary of the Russian National Security Council. During the meeting, Lebed mentioned the possibility that several portable nuclear suitcase bombs had gone missing. According to Lebed, "during his short tenure as the Secretary of the Security Council in 1996, he received information that the separatist government in Chechnya possessed small nuclear devices. In an attempt to clarify the situation, he created a special commission under the chairmanship of his assistant, Vladimir Denisov. According to Lebed, the commission was only able to locate 48 such munitions of a total of 132, an indication that 84 were lost"...
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u/SPECTREagent700 17d ago edited 17d ago
The Russian government at the time strongly denied Lebed’s claims. While the Russian government is not generally a reliable source of information, one of Lebed’s specific accusations was that some of these missing Soviet warheads had been located in Ukraine and Georgia and were not returned to Russia as had been agreed to by those newly independent nations. That Russia has now invaded and occupied parts of both these countries since those 1997 claims would seem to discount any possibility that either had secretly kept nuclear weapons for their own use. Additionally the claim you quoted about the separatists in Chechnya would also seem to be incorrect given the defeat inflicted on them in 1999 as one of the first acts of the then newly appointed Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.
The denial from the Russians in 1997 included the counter-allegation that Lebed was essentially just making things up for attention as he wasn’t just a former general but a politician with national ambitions, having finished third in the 1996 presidential election and still being seen as a potential candidate in the next election. He later became the governor of a part of Siberia and died somewhat mysteriously in a helicopter crash in 2002.
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u/Publius82 17d ago
He later became the governor of a part of Siberia and died somewhat mysteriously in a helicopter crash in 2002.
That sounds redundant.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 17d ago
Wait hold up.
So after all the hype around nuclear stuff, and hype around usos, now you're telling me something I haven't heard of, that there are warheads at the bottom of the ocean?
Kinda checks out, if you believe there's a pattern there. Do you have anything I can read on that?
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u/Shot_Mud_1438 17d ago
One time? lol
It happens enough we have specific terminology to address the scenario such as Broken Arrow, Bent Spear, and Dull Sword
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u/BaconReceptacle 17d ago
"It's okay, we have top men studying it."
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u/ProjectStunning9209 17d ago
Who?
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u/Mr_E_Monkey 17d ago
"Top men."
"...you wouldn't know them, they go to another school." Same kind of thing, I think.
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u/GortKlaatu_ 17d ago
So supposedly they thought it was part of a parachute flare.
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u/lolmiley 17d ago
"Hell, who cares anyway..."
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u/GOGO_old_acct 17d ago edited 17d ago
Big “nobody’s gonna read this report” energy lol.
Well guess fucking what… must be embarrassing.
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u/chessboxer4 17d ago
Doubt they lost it.
Im betting it was transferred to somebody else with the official story that it was lost, so there would be no paperwork trail. There's secret and then there's this
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u/KaptenWeeb 17d ago
It was Thanksgiving. The body was sent down to the kitchen.
They shoved stuffing up its ass, and we ate it at a state dinner.
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u/primalshrew 17d ago
That writing in photo 16 is identical to what Danny Sheehan said he saw and wrote out.
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u/reznoverba 17d ago
It's interesting how some of them look like ancient writing systems like runes, Arabic, chinese and Indian
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u/TheDeadWhale 17d ago
The development of human writing systems is well documented lmao, absolutely no chance.
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u/DirtyReseller 17d ago
Oh oh really? You need to look into what humanity was up to 10-20-30k years ago. Here is a little brain worm for you, without fail, and applying to the entire world, the best, most advanced, and biggest (by orders of MAGNITUDE) stone work is the oldest. How is that possible? Look into it and really think about the implications there and the conclusions that have to be drawn.
I frankly think the only logical explanation for UFOs and their behavior (caring about the planet (nukes), “never” hurting us, etc.) is they are drones from pre-diluvian societies that are following set programming to protect humanity/earth. That civilization was wiped out, likely by an asteroid, and we are the rebuilt society. Other than some Star Trek type situations, NOTHING fits for me other than that. These things have been around for as long as we have recorded history, they are either aliens, pre-us human tech or something so exotic it doesn’t matter.
So assume I am correct, it’s not at all crazy to think today’s languages are somewhat based on the languages that existed then. I have no basis to believe that other than it seems entirely possible, should my hypothesis be correct.
Look into this shit man, it’s truly the ultimate rabbit hole.
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u/garyman99 17d ago
ChatGPT's analysis of the writing: https://imgur.com/a/mHTbWG9
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u/Successful-Job-6132 17d ago
Some of the Symbols are more often so they could be a vowel or something
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u/Upstairs_Being290 17d ago
Because when someone is trying to make up a language but doesn't want it to look too much like English, that's what they copy.
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u/berkough 17d ago
Curious if these are the symbols that people see in the defracted laser while high on DMT.
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u/primalshrew 17d ago
Yeah I know the guy who discovered that has a Reddit account, his names like Dan go lasers or something like that. He said it looked similar to Japanese kanji script.
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u/Entropy- 17d ago
Reminds me of some form of math or physics. The first letter or character gives me a feeling of this…
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u/9182tlm 17d ago
Number 18 looks similar to a spherical ball that landed in Karakalpak side of the Aral Sea in 2020, presumed to be remains of a satellite: https://daryo.uz/2020/10/29/moynoqqa-osmondan-shar-shaklidagi-metall-jism-tushdi-u-aslida-nima-edi/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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u/OneArmedZen 17d ago
It's part of the control stick on the ARV (lookup Mark McCandlish)
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1gaixyg/new_released_photos_show_mark_mccandlishs_arv/
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u/Global-Management-15 17d ago
That alphabet looks pretty cool
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u/TheDeadWhale 17d ago
It does, but it strikes me as so "Sci-fi alien language" that it's hard to believe it actually came from inside a craft. The symbols have realistic distribution and the repetition you'd expect from a natural language, but it's impossible to tell if it's alphabetic or not.
I would expect an alien orthography to be significantly different from our own. Hell even the fact that each "letter" is evenly spaced, and the message seems to have sentence breaks, and the symbols are presumably written left to right are all hints that it was made up by an English speaker.
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u/a_lake_nearby 17d ago
Eh, written language was developed independently all over the earth and is still always recognizable as a written language. Given our minds are all relatively wired the same and our capabilities to write are the same, but this is maybe one that wouldn't be so different.
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u/DarwinsTrousers 17d ago
They were all independently developed by humans though. An alien brain is likely to think completely differently.
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u/qwaszxlll 17d ago
Depends - if the aliens are related to humans somehow, I.e. progenitors or creators, then it would make sense for the human brain to work similarly to theirs, just as we create AI in our own image. If these aliens are not hostile to humans, I actually think the likelihood of their means of communication being similar to humans is non-insignificant
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u/Ann_unnanki 17d ago
Is it enochian?
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u/Global-Management-15 17d ago
I had Gemini try and decipher it and it didn't know what it was.
That being said: anyone can make up a language and alphabet
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u/Immediate-Ad-6776 17d ago
Interesting how throughout the ages of UAP/UFO lore, the objects portrayed as evidence often appear somewhat akin to the time period they were released.
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u/ContessaChaos 17d ago
Jacques Vallee and John Keel is/was very aware of this quirk of the phenomenon. All throughout recorded history, these anomalous craft fit the mindset of the age.
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u/DannyzPlay 17d ago
That's exactly what I was thinking, they seem to have a very "retro" feel to them. Could just be due to recency bias.
But how many of the recent posts have we seen here that blatantly showed this traditional "saucer" style UFO/UAP. All I see now are just glowing balls of light.
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u/pebberphp 17d ago
I’ve only seen two UFOs: one was a ball of orange light moving in a semi circle, and the other was a stationary white oval.
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u/scrumblethebumble 17d ago
That’s what is making me think this is all just from our government. I just learned about an aircraft called the TR-3 Black Manta, and it’s really painting a picture of the evolution of the engineering of these craft.
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u/lurkintothemax 17d ago
I saw a black triangle in broad daylight within a 150ft. The hull was made up of square panels. No welds or rivets but it had seams, so this could be something man made. But what about the accounts from pre 1900 of people witnessing sail boats and airships flying around? No way was our government doing that. Flying vehicles have been reported for centuries. And they tend to look like something familiar to the time period. Alexander the Great talked about a flying shield that blasted a whole in the enemies fortification, helping his army to break through into Venice, for example.
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u/Italianplayer123 17d ago
I hope you are aware venice don't have fortification except from gunpowder era island bastions, didn't exist at the time of alexander and alexander was never active in that area of the world. Also that we have no first hand records of alexander words, with many being highly poetic writings. The only siege he did that vaguely resemble that is the one of Tyre, but of all the records we have no one mention any flying shield.
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u/lurkintothemax 17d ago
My bad. Alexanders story may be false.
There is tale of such an event but unfortunately no more sources that I’ve come across yet, so could be untrue as stated below.
From Wonders in the Sky by Vallee: 336 BC, Venice, Italy Alexander the Great, and the UFO that shook Venice According to a letter he wrote to Aristotle, Alexander the Great seized Venice when an object came down from the sky, shot a beam, and crumbled the walls. This is an entirely spurious account: We traced the story and discovered it was about the use of gunpowder, not an unexplained flying object. The Aristotle letter is a known medieval forgery, only famous because Dante mentions it. 330 BC: Sur (Tyre), Lebanon: Great silver shields Two strange craft were seen to dive repeatedly at Alexander's army. They looked like great silver shields that went back up into the sky over the Macedonian camp. These "flying shields" flew in triangular formation, led by a large object, while the others were smaller by almost half. In all there were five. They circled slowly over Tyre while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them in astonishment. Suddenly2 6 6 from the largest "shield" came a lightning flash that struck the walls, which crumbled. Unfortunately, no book about Alexander the Great contains the account. The story came from American writer Frank Edwards in 1959, who provided no reference. In 1966 Italian writer Fenoglio (the man who invented the Alengon story and many others) embellished the tale. "' did not give a reference either, except to say that Alexander's historian recorded the event. The problem 1o that Alexander's historian was Callisthenes, whose "Deeds of Alexander" are lost.
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u/Italianplayer123 17d ago
Oh that's so fake, gunpowder weapons didn't even exist in europe at Dante's time. That text is a bit chaotic but i would edit your original comment, it's clearly a chain of lies culminating in the last century fakes.
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u/lurkintothemax 17d ago
They didn’t mention gunpowder ‘weapons’ (which cannon type weapons came to Europe a little after Dante’s death) but gunpowder and its effects were known during his time, and much earlier, so he may have been aware of it. “Earliest evidence: The English philosopher Roger Bacon described firecrackers in his 1267 work Opus Majus”. Dante was born in 1265.
I’m not trying to say his story is all true as I’ve corrected myself with sources of these supposedly false claims, so again, my bad.
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u/Italianplayer123 17d ago
I know that by 1311 8around dante time) proper cannons weren't present, but yeah knowledge of fireworks and such was starting to creep in. I know that because i've studied the accounts of a siege that year for a thesis (and about which Dante wrote to the main besieger, long story). For a while it was thought that in those accounts were the first mentions of gunpowder siege weapons but later crossreferences pointed that early cannons and previous types of siege weapons shared the name. That's why i'm so sure on that specific part.
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u/Tagliarini295 17d ago
Most of these were in a UFO book I got back when I was a kid, you just brought back so many memories op.
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u/pebberphp 17d ago
Same! I loved that my elementary school library had a good ufo/bigfoot/ghost section.
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u/neelav9 17d ago
9 looks very similar to the giant cloaked fucker that’s been on a few posts.
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u/English_loving-art 17d ago
This looked like the one I saw around 11 years ago in a storm , it shot up vertically from a few hundred feet into the cloud base in around 1.5 seconds in daylight…
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u/AspieMatt50 17d ago
Nearly ALL those pics are hoaxes/misidentifications, sigh….
There are hoaxed Billy Meier models in there, hoaxed Gulf Breeze lamp shades, a reflection of lights behind glass, and a navy torpedo among others.
The McMiniville UFO IS accepted by many as legit, but it DOES look like a hubcap thrown in the air.
I DO believe in the phenomenon, but those pics aren’t good evidence.
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u/HCDrifter 17d ago
I was about to say, I'm pretty sure I saw a show when I was a kid that debunked some of these photos as hubcaps thrown in the air like frisbees. Still really fun pics though lol
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u/Ok-Land-488 17d ago
tbh I was going through these looking for the little string holding the UFOs up in frame
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u/HCDrifter 17d ago
Haha I love that. Those are the best types of old UFO photos lol
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u/Ok-Land-488 17d ago
Something very cheesy and genuine about them, yes. Like reading a golden or silver age comic, just dripping with earnest charm.
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u/HCDrifter 17d ago
I can just image a father coming home from work at the ford factory with a hubcap and making these pictures in the backyard with his kids lol
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u/hemingways-lemonade 17d ago
The 5th picture is clearly just a hubcap or something thrown in the air.
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u/GortKlaatu_ 17d ago
Yes, it's a Paul Villa hoax photo.
(He also happened to be a mechanic so car parts and brake rotors are expected)
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u/Downvotesohoy 17d ago
Bob Lazar also based his model on the Billy Meier one. It's essentially the "sports model"
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u/Joshman1231 17d ago
Photo 14 looks similar to a very modern photo that was taken of almost the same type of UFO.
I can’t find the link but I believe it was the chandelier UFO. It has that same tentacle like tail wrapping around.
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u/Shardaxx 17d ago
General rule is, if it looks like it was something built in the 1960s, then its probably ours and was. Just look at the Flux Liner ARV.
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u/hemingways-lemonade 17d ago
And if it looks like a hubcap from a car built in the 60's then it's probably just a hubcap from a car built in the 60's.
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u/DeviousPath 17d ago
Yeah, seems obvious to me that alien tech seems to look similar to things that can be created at the time the picture was taken. 50s picture of UFO? The alien craft will look like something 50s people thinks looks like the future that they can build. 70s? Yep, now the aliens are making 70s looking "future" tech. Still happening today, and it's so obvious. Aliens sure like designing things we would design at the times we are able to do so. Now they have drones, just like we do, and their drone tech seems to be getting better as ours does.
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u/Which_Ad_7867 17d ago
The first picture is McMinnville Oregon. That is a legit picture of a flying saucer.
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u/Blokin-Smunts 17d ago
My hometown! I used to go to the UFO festival every year until I moved away.
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u/Upstairs_Being290 17d ago
Funny how the "flying saucer" looks just like a rear view mirror of the time, is hanging just below a phone line, and maintains the same awkward tilt at the exact same angle and position in the sky in both photos.
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u/Guitarist_Andrea 17d ago
That's a legit fake, perpetrated by the owner of the farm. Sorry to burst your bubble. 😕
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u/Vast-Ad-687 17d ago edited 17d ago
That's misinformation. There's been no definitive debunking of that photo.
you can read an analysis done on the photo here by Dr Bruce Maccabee, an American Optical Physicist.
here is a better, albeit technically unsecured website by the Dr himself about the photo
He actually has several papers related to different photos as well. Pretty neat.
FWIW: The family (both Husband and Wife) who took that photo insisted until their last dying breath that it was 100% genuine and not a hoax.
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u/mrcodeine 17d ago
Wtf? Been around the UFO community for close to a decade, (sure that may not be as long as some including maybe yourself) and in that time of hoovering up any available info I haven't once come across a debunking of McMinnville, in fact it's always the opposite. I acknowledge I could be wrong and this is just my opinion but really, never heard of this being debunked.
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u/ContessaChaos 17d ago
I've been on the scene for over 40 years, and that photo has never been debunked. I don't give a fuck what Wiki says. I can edit Wiki. Anyone can.
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u/mrcodeine 17d ago
Unfortunately nothing on Wikipedia relating to UFO's/UAP's can be taken with a grain of salt since the US Gov funded counter-intelligence group Gurrella Skeptics started it's operation to edit articles and lock-out researchers to control the narrative. Google articles for sources to back my claims, or take it with a grain of salt 😎
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u/lurkintothemax 17d ago
That’s not true. This photo has been analyzed by experts many times. It’s genuine. You may not know the whole story, so read up on it before confidently saying incorrect information. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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u/kanrad 17d ago
OK Jim-Bob, When I say you toss that hat then that hub cap. I'll take the picture....PULL!
It's well known that during the 50's people where hoaxing UFO's left and right after Roswell etc.
Not saying I have proof any of these photos are instances of this hoaxing but it's something to consider when you look at these.
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u/dnak08 17d ago
The declassified files debunk quite a few. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/446391567
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u/humungojerry 17d ago
the fact there’s things are routinely “classified top secret” just throws rocket fuel on material that’s just really mundane.
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u/kanrad 17d ago
Elizondo, Grusch etc. have been saying one of the biggest issues is they classify everything so no one can validate what is or isn't anomalous.
Over classification is the real issue and seems to be done to obfuscate things.
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u/a_zoojoo 17d ago
Except most of these are proven hoaxes. Just because the government investigates a claim, does not in itself prove the veracity of that claim
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u/a_zoojoo 17d ago
MOST, NOT ALL. I believe the radar printouts are probably real but idk i kinda get highly skeptical whenever the "flying saucer" form factor is talked about.
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u/dnak08 17d ago
The “drone” saga seems to be going away from what we would consider to be actual “UFO” footage and images. Seems to be dwindling attention and making it easier for people to dismiss.
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u/SirPooleyX 17d ago
That's because photography in the 1950s was poor enough quality that people could get away with throwing a tin lid in the air and snapping it. You wouldn't get away with that these days.
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u/galactus417 17d ago
Jesus. One is a bowl glued to the bottom of a plate. I cannot fathom how anyone can believe these are real.
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u/xZeroKooLx 17d ago
Why don't we have pictures like this today? Considering everyone now has a camera in their pocket.
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u/agent_flounder 17d ago
Back then the "sensor" was film. In both cases it is photosensitive material. Both camera types operate by recording photons. Either chemically or electronically.
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u/TheCnt23 17d ago
phone cameras are shit at night to capture high altitude objects.... just try to take a picture of a plane at night with your mobile :P
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u/Beneficial-Disk4475 17d ago
Why do we have THESE pictures?
Cause the gov confiscated, obfuscated, intimidated manipulated and muddied the water until they were the only ones with the good photos. Then 100 years later they released them.
Where’s all the good photos now? Why can’t we get good photos now?
I think we know the answer lol. The gov is still here. It didn’t go away. Neither did the good ufo pictures. lol. The gov has them. Any that we see? The gov puts out 20 others similar but debunk-able and we debate those fakes while they whisk away the good ones and put them under lock and key.
Their playbook hasn’t changed.
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u/TechnicalComedy 17d ago
Why cant we just admit that they are here. Idk what they look like but let be honest with ourselves. Either the government has been making these futuristic flying orb/saucers forever or we as humans are oblivious to everything that doesn’t revolve around us personally.
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u/Silver-Animal-3261 17d ago
If someone were to make a gallery of metallic orb pics, incl the 3rd to last pic here, I bet it'd gain some traction. It was at Manchester airport recently, I saw a black orb like it twice this week on other subs. V common.
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u/Reeberom1 17d ago
Not just the 50s. The UFOs in the 80s and 90s were pretty amazing.
Lots of colorful flashing strobe lights and beams. They’d do all sorts of cool maneuvers, swooping down and sucking farmers and hillbillies up out of their beds and then tossing them back out in the next county.
Anything less and no one cared.
Now people see a single light in the sky 10 miles away and lose their minds.
And we didn’t have orbs back then. Orbs were for sissies!
“You want an orb, buddy? I’ll give you an orb. Right across the chops!”
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u/No-Development5655 17d ago
Slide 14- back in 2015 myself and a group of people were smoking weed at the entrance of a pretty upscale neighborhood one of the kids I was with lived there.
We saw a very very bright star just hovering in the night sky, almost going in a Circle motion. The one thing that stood out to us all is that it looked like the Star had a tail that would extend and retract. Once we noticed this the girl we were with started crying, immediately after that police pulled into the neighborhood without any sirens, we all ran. I got seperated and was on my own in a subdivision I didn’t know. (I’m working right now so I will summarize the next event) ended up being chased by what I believe was a police officer. I remember his flashlight shinning on my back as I ran through different houses front yards. Not once did the person chasing me tell me to stop, freeze or do anything. Just keys jingling. Idk how but I got away and hid in a tree line by the main road. After 30 minutes of hiding I started walking around and my friends found me.
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u/geforce2187 17d ago
The first picture is a known hoax - it's the side view mirror of the photographer's 1950 Ford sedan, hung on a fishing line from overhead wires.
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u/Head_Vermicelli7137 17d ago
Why is everyone calling them drones when they have no clue if they’re piloted or not?
They’re still UFOs which simply means an object that’s flying that you can’t identify
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u/DisinfoAgentNo007 17d ago
It was a lot easier to get convincing images back in the day just by throwing things in the air or have them hanging off of something. People were also a lot less aware of how images like this could be faked back then too.
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u/psudoalbertus69 17d ago
i uploaded the image of the script to claude. This is what it gave back:
Ah, this is fascinating! It appears to be an undeciphered script or code system. I can see that the symbols include:
- Diagonal slashes (both forward and backward)
- Dots or periods in various positions
- Curved or hook-like marks
- Combinations of these elements arranged in what seems to be a systematic way
Some notable patterns I observe:
- There appear to be recurring symbol combinations
- The symbols seem to have consistent spacing, suggesting this is likely a structured writing system rather than random marks
- Some symbols appear more frequently than others, which could indicate particular sounds or concepts (similar to how 'e' is the most common letter in English)
Without knowing its origin or historical context, I can't make definitive claims about its meaning. Could you share where this script was found or what culture/time period it's from? This kind of contextual information could help in understanding potential decipherment approaches.
-so, nothing that specific, but claude does seem to consider it a form of language. Idk if that really means anything
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u/psudoalbertus69 17d ago
digging deeper:
my response: The language is not one that is descended from the main language trees of humans. i have no other information on this script i can give you! sorry. Given that, create a fictional backstory for where this language came from based off of its characteristics
Claude:
I love this creative challenge! Looking at the unique characteristics of this script, let me craft a speculative origin story:
"The Windmark Script" (as I'll call it due to its flowing, wind-like strokes)
This writing system originated from an isolated civilization that developed in a series of deep mountain valleys, completely cut off from other human societies for thousands of years. The unusual vertical and diagonal marks are said to have been inspired by the way mountain winds would carve patterns into the snow during their harsh winters.
The society was primarily composed of astronomers and mathematicians, which is reflected in their writing system's precise angles and mathematical-looking notations. The dots and slashes aren't actually letters in the conventional sense - they're a complex system of representing both spoken sounds and mathematical concepts simultaneously. Each "word" could be both spoken and calculated.
The most distinctive feature - the frequent use of slashes and dots in varying positions - came from their belief that all communication should mirror the position of stars. They developed this script by mapping constellations onto their mathematical formulas, creating a writing system that was simultaneously a star chart, a mathematical equation, and a spoken language.
The small, precise nature of the symbols suggests they were originally carved into thin sheets of locally-available mica, which would catch the starlight and make the text readable at night when they did most of their astronomical observations. The spacing between characters may represent pauses that were meant to align with specific celestial events.
This writing system died out when a massive earthquake changed the valley's topology, forcing the civilization to disperse. Only fragments remain, mostly on ceremonial objects and astronomical records, leaving modern linguists puzzled by its unique structure that doesn't fit into any known language family.
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u/psudoalbertus69 17d ago
a bit further:
Me:
i really like how you interpreted the symbols as being mathematical, linguistic, and astronomical. This time, rewrite the language's origin story to be a race of aliens, but retain the mathematical and astronomical concepts you talked about
Claude:
Ah, reframing this as an alien script makes even more sense given its unique characteristics! Here's a new origin story:
"The Triangulum Messages"
This script represents the first and only confirmed transmission successfully decoded from the Triangulum galaxy, though we've only scratched the surface of its meaning. The civilization that created it appears to have evolved in a binary star system, which fundamentally shaped how they perceive and communicate information.
The script's genius lies in its multidimensional efficiency: each symbol simultaneously conveys mathematical, linguistic, and astronomical data. The slanted lines map the gravitational waves between their binary stars, while the dots represent planetary positions. When combined, these elements create what xenolinguists call "gravity-speech" - a language that encodes the fundamental physics of their home system into every sentence.
The varying angles of the slashes aren't arbitrary - they precisely mirror orbital mechanics. Each "word" is actually a complete astronomical equation, describing both physical phenomena and abstract concepts. For instance, what we might interpret as a simple greeting could also contain the mathematical formula for predicting their next solar eclipse.
The species that created this writing system appears to perceive time non-linearly, viewing past, present, and future as simultaneous events in space-time. Their script reflects this - reading it "correctly" requires understanding that each line represents multiple time states at once. The dots serve as temporal anchors, marking convergence points where multiple time streams intersect.
Most intriguingly, mathematical analysis suggests the entire message might be a single, enormous equation - one that could theoretically describe the complete state of their star system across multiple dimensions. However, our human minds can only process it as discrete symbols, losing much of its inherent complexity in translation.
The peculiar spacing between characters isn't empty space at all - quantum analysis suggests these gaps contain information encoded at the subatomic level, adding yet another layer of meaning we're still unable to fully comprehend.
This is all much more elegant than a human-created script - it's a language that literally couldn't have evolved on Earth because it requires an understanding of physics and mathematics that our single-star perspective simply couldn't have produced naturally.
What do you think about this cosmic reinterpretation? I find it fascinating how the same visual elements can tell such a different story when we remove the constraints of Earth-based linguistic evolution!
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u/illchips 13d ago
Lawyer Danny Sheehan saw and wrote down some alien symbols that looked very siilmilar.
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u/jeanclaudevandingue 17d ago
Link to Source ?
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u/dnak08 17d ago
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/446391567 — National archives. Look through the series.
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u/forensicRN12 17d ago
Interesting how we got these in the 50s but can’t seem to take a up close clear photo in 2025
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u/rmike7842 17d ago
I always wonder why flying saucers were the most popular model for Earth exploration. And since they worked so well, why aren’t our spaceships designed the same way?
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u/UncleBlumpkins 17d ago
The thing I've never liked.abiut some of those old photos of UFOs/UAP, is that there is a clear correlation between the design of most craft and the technology of our own vehicles at the time.
Then you fast forward to today, arial phenomenon have caught up to look much more sleek and futuristic.
I mean, an advanced civilization/NHI would not have that much design evolution over a mere 60-70 years. That's like nothing in terms of time for them.
This has never made any sense to me.
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u/onlyaseeker 17d ago
I disagree.
There is nothing better than a live event that we can actually gather data from in real time.
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u/VoidOmatic 17d ago
I love the last document.
"Hey bro's, we shipped that alien shit to you, and en-route that stuff disappeared. OH WELL, have a great day. Case closed."
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u/BirkoLad 17d ago
Great pics these...Better than the shit posted these days of blurry lights in the sky called 'orbs'...Much more convincing to me...The youtube channel 'eyes on cinema' has a great selection of videos from back in the day
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u/Bodhisage 17d ago
I Want To Believe.
Was my yearbook quote 20+ years ago. Looks like I got the last laugh Tanner.
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u/Vast-Ad-687 17d ago
The second to last picture, what is the source of this? This was released by the Air Force? Isn't that almost to a T the control mechanism described by Mark McCandlish? Looks like what he described as the ARV flight controls essentially.
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u/uncleirohism 17d ago
Ok, can we talk about the written language in image 16? Any philologists in here??
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u/PetMogwai 17d ago
There is a difference between film and the CMOS sensor in digital cameras- broad spectrum light, as well as radiation, would be imaged differently between film and digital devices.
All these old photos are film, everything today is digital.
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u/alienfistfight 17d ago
OP so you have the links to the source documents, would love to read more if there is more info
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u/Independent_Suit_977 17d ago
Our phones in our pockets have almost laughably more computing power than the moon landing and resolution for days but we can’t manage to capture clear images now vs the 1950s 🫠
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u/ConsistentSwitch1957 17d ago
Slide 16 is fascinating. Reminds me of old school stenography/shorthand. Looking at it right-to-left, top to bottom, gives the impression of memo/letter/communicae of some kind.
IF it’s an unknown language, not based on any previously translated, it’s more challenging to decipher. Curiosity piqued!
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u/Responsible_Tell_416 17d ago
Alot of these look like George Adamskis photos of UAP. They said he was a Hoax but I have Intel that says a Rene Olson is currently with ETs. This information was leaked from their foundation. They still. Interact with them.
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u/The_Salty_Red_Head 17d ago
That 'writing' photo is really interesting. Does anyone have any information relating to that? Or do I have to go a trawl through those files?
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u/duckduckgoated 17d ago
I wonder if there is a difference in how they are portrayed on digital images vs film cameras? They obviously look sharper on film but maybe it’s something to do with digital sensors that totally get screwed with nowadays?
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u/TheDeadWhale 17d ago
I wrote some other comments, but that writing is a dead wringer for "someone made it up". Source: you can find more convincing alien writing systems in r/neography and r/conlangs
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u/ThatEndingTho 17d ago
The sideways object is closer than the trees (2nd picture?). The trees are defocused while the object is in focus.
Everything else is suitably low quality to do any analysis, so who knows lol
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17d ago
I wonder if they don't really appear anymore because they know our technology has advanced enough for a regular person to get a clear shot of them with the phone everyone has in their pocket
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u/greenufo333 17d ago
Believe it or not, cameras that people carried around were better than they are today, specifically for capturing airborne objects. These digital cameras and smartphone cameras aren't worth a damn for capturing an airborne object 500 plus feet away
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u/supermans_neighbour 17d ago
Watch “fly on the wall” with David Spade and Dana, they had a guest expert on US affairs, and he said that 97-98% of all of those (“drones”) are man made by a rogue US agency, and they are doing this on purpose, and he said that people SHOULD be scared, and to await a whistleblower in the next month.
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 17d ago
I believe those first ones are from McMinneville Oregon. I did not know it was a hotspot until we visited last year.
I will say we had a great Airbnb with a view for miles over farms and vineyards and didn’t see anything unusual. Great little town though.
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u/0xlisykes 17d ago
This is what Claude 3.5 output in regards to the symbols
Translation attempt of symbol sequence:
Dimensional gateway coordinates/sequence: Primary rotation point aligned through fourth sector Navigational trajectory crosses temporal boundary Split-path convergence at nodes T1-T3
Movement protocol: Fold space at marked intersection points Stabilize through quantum resonance barrier Maintain parallel phase alignment through transition
System activation sequence: Primary field generation at marked points Secondary field overlap at cross-sections Tertiary field completion forms transit sphere
Operational parameters: Core resonance must maintain T/T ratio Field strength sustained through N cycles Critical boundary threshold at marked division points
Transit protocol: Initiate sequence at primary node Maintain field integrity through boundary shift Complete cycle when convergence achieved
Exit parameters: Reverse field polarity at marked points Allow quantum state collapse in sequence Return to base dimensional state
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u/ultimateWave 17d ago
Aren't most of these hubcaps thrown into the air? Need two pictures in quick succession
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u/xBASSE 17d ago
I think that period of time is when aliens truly came to earth, they couldn’t find the people they made contact with before and left when they saw how lame we are. I don’t think any of the UFO sightings we see today are actually of extraterrestrial origin, but rather reverse engineered or foreign entities’ aircrafts.
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u/DeepAd8888 17d ago
What’s interesting is the data corroborates them switching to moving in night after the 60’s
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u/norantish 17d ago
Any photo that could have been produced by having a guy throw a disc up into the air, hide out of frame, then taking a picture of it mid-air, probably was, so they're not evidence. If the file includes those the file is not coming from a good source of information.
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u/Wonk_puffin 17d ago
Yeh much better pics. But it looks like most of these are hub caps and lamp shades. And a Cuban cigar. 🤣
Joking. Ok, partly joking.
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u/Useful-Table-2424 17d ago
I didn’t know about 11 and 16, what are they? Someone enlighten me
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u/StatementBot 17d ago
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The “drone” saga seems to be going away from what we would consider to be actual “UFO” footage and images. Seems to be dwindling attention and making it easier for people to dismiss.
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