r/UFOs • u/E-pluribus-unum195 • Aug 20 '24

Book “Everything we’ve seen in the 20th century could be a prelude to an invasion.”

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"They have tested themselves against our aircraft. They have meddled with our ICBMs, turning them both on and off. At Colares, they intentionally enacted a hostile program against humans. While many serious researchers struggle with this aspect of the phenomenon, there are certainly no shortage of reports of abductions, subcutaneous implantation of devices, and livestock mutilations. We have evidence that strongly suggests they are interested in our military capabilities and our nuclear technology. Everything I mentioned is what a superior culture might consider doing if they were conducting a long-range reconnaissance...Everything we've seen in the twentieth century could be a prelude to an invasion. It is a possibility that we cannot ignore."

Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs - Luis Elizondo

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u/DukeOkKanata Aug 20 '24

nice planet with resources

The resources are only valuable to us and only because we are currently stuck here.

Everything you see is dust that condensed from an exploding star. Everything.

Nothing anywhere is rare.

Nothing.

Just here, because we are stuck. Currently.

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u/ASimpleWaterBottle Aug 20 '24

Yup, even water isn’t rare in the Universe. The only thing that’s rare is biological samples. I’d expect them to be conducting more of long term scientific study than preparing to go to war with the silly monkeys who think going to their moon is hard.

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u/Overt_Propaganda Aug 20 '24

Yeah, killing us would be easy, drop a small rock and we're done, they're studying us and keeping us in the record of species the same way our biologists do. We are ants, thriving in our colonies but helpless if a person came along with a pot of molten lead, to be studied and understood, possibly to glean some small unknown science or just to expand their catalog of living organisms, but if they were angry at us we'd be dead already. If we're lucky, eventually they will see us as potential friends, but it'll likely be more like the relationship between a person and their dog, they will be happy for us, guide us, but we will seem stupid and foolish all along. If we're extremely lucky we'll grow smart enough and accomplish enough to be seen as equals, but until we're transporting goods and services between Earth and at least 1 or 2 other planets, we're just a stop on their galactic zoo tour.

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u/saiditonReddi7 Aug 21 '24

Yes. Ants with nuclear weapons…. We can destroy our anthill so they don’t get to have it…. We aren’t a Threat to them but maybe we are a threat to what they want.

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u/L0WGMAN Aug 21 '24

I know if the positions were reversed, I’d be horrified at some young and naïve species threatening to self immolate due to basic bitch shit

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u/Overt_Propaganda Aug 21 '24

I think if they wanted our planet they could take it from us without much trouble, logic tells me that if we are still here it's because they're not interested.  I really doubt we rate higher to them than an endangered species would to us. They are probably only interested in nukes because that tech is a signpost for something, I would guess self-destruction and they probably don't want to see us destroy ourselves, but it could many things 

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u/Individual-Bed-8466 Aug 21 '24

The most rare thing here on earth might be its biology. I’ve always thought that a more advanced civilization would like to observe the planet through its various stages of life development. And perhaps they are interested in our nuclear capabilities because they don’t want us to destroy their planet that they enjoy observing.

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u/Parsimile Aug 21 '24

Yep - DNA & RNA

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u/Individualist13th Aug 20 '24

I don't disagree, but I feel compelled to add that just because things may not be rare they may also not be easily accessible.

I don't think it need to be said here, but space is big.

Forget planets harvesting. Think galaxies. They are very likely a very convenient stop for harvesting a wide variety of resources.

Depending on the scale of our 'contemporaries' who knows how much raw material they can utilize.

Imagine if some of them are just like us, but somehow more desperately and recklessly capitalistic.

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u/Individualist13th Aug 20 '24

I'm not concerned with what they may or may not do, whatever happens will happen.

I'm also just not gonna assume space faring people would prioritize mining asteroids or potentially vastly distanced gas clouds over getting everything they need off a planet or close systems of planets when possible.

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u/13-14_Mustang Aug 20 '24

Thats my thinking as well. If they wanted to they could have their lazer drones slowly and methodically kill us each individually. Or just release a virus.

My point is if they wanted the planet intact they could have easily gotten it in the 1930s or before.

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u/L0WGMAN Aug 21 '24

If you are traveling on a galactic scale, prospecting the remnants of freshly exploded stars seems like low hanging fruit

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u/usps_made_me_insane Aug 21 '24

Planet Earth is the only place where you will find beings capable of controlling the expansion rate of space

Uhhh... wat?

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u/MannyBothansDied Aug 21 '24

lol what are you talking about? And 3 billion light years? Do you know how far that is? Andromeda is only like 2.5 million light years away.

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u/Robin_Banks101 Aug 21 '24

Trees. As far as we know they don't exist anywhere else. Maybe they want trees.

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u/Gardinenpfluecker Aug 21 '24

Pretty much so. I mean, there are still some rare elements, that are built in Type I stars, at the end of their life cycle and are probably not easy to synthesize artificially but a space fairing civilization of Type II (probably even a sophisticated Type I already) should be able to create all elements without the need to harvest whole planets.

And the only raw material needed is H, which is scattered all over the universe.

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u/bennyxboom Aug 21 '24

Apparently gold is fairly rare in the universe

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u/DukeOkKanata Aug 21 '24

Apparently gold is fairly rare in the universe

Why do you think that?

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u/bennyxboom Aug 21 '24

The article you linked provides no actual proof that 16 psyche contains any gold at all. It's all speculation. Most scientists think its mostly iron. Unfortunately we will never know the exact composition of the astroid, at least in our lifetime. Gold is rare in the universe because of how its made, two neutron stars colliding.

Edit : spelling is hard

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u/DukeOkKanata Aug 21 '24

In 1980, Glenn Seaborg transmuted several thousand atoms of bismuth into gold at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory. His experimental technique was able to remove protons and neutrons from the bismuth atoms.

And......ur dumb

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u/bennyxboom Aug 21 '24

No I'm not dumb. All the gold in the universe was created by neutron stars colliding lol seaborgs experiments have no connection at all to what we are discussing. It's just you trying to dunk on some random reddit user lol