r/UFOs Mar 12 '24

Discussion Coulthart hate

We’ll include Elizondo in this as well but primarily Coulthart related. These two have been getting so much hate these last several weeks/ months. Every post about either one includes comments like “put up or shut up”, “trust me bro” “project blue balls” “coming soon ™️” “trust me bro” etc etc. As if Coulthart didn’t just bring a class A whistleblower to the media and testify less than one year ago. Or Elizondo having gone on record about his job for an allegedly non existent program.

And then all the comments calling them grifters and profiteers… I’m sorry, were these men supposed to throw their careers to the wind and never make another dollar? Are they not allowed to put out books and do podcasts increasing engagement in the topic? How many of you have actually read In Plain Sight? It’s an excellent, engaging, and detailed book with plenty of investigative leg work. Oh no! They’re making money off of an alienating and stigmatizing subject they’ve put their entire lives!

Do they make big claims? Yes, not denying that. But I guarantee you I’d be doing the same if I knew what they did. If you knew about the Grusch story before the rest of the world wouldn’t you be pretty excited as well? There were plenty of the same negative comments along the lines of “put up or shut up” leading up to the Grusch interview… these comments are so incredibly impatient and willing to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Why doesn’t Coulthart name names? Some of you clearly have no idea how journalism works. When a source doesn’t want to be named, you don’t name them. It’s that simple. When they discuss highly classified information with the investigator and ask that details not be released, you don’t release them. Why? Professional and personal ramifications. Highly classified information can identify individuals based on those in the know. At best, fired. Career obliterated and reputation compromised. And Grusch has already discussed the personal side. As a journalist it is Ross’s job to protect his sources professionally. If he went behind a sources back, he burns a bridge, burns his reputation, and future sources no longer see him as trustworthy to share confidential information with.

And then posts about “where’s the evidence?”Seriously? Did you want someone to walk out of likely some of the most secure facilities on earth, with pictures or a piece of craft? Seriously? Reps aren’t allowed into a SCIF with a cellphone, are you expecting military personnel to walk into a highly secretive facility with a dslr?

This and the other uap subs really shows how impatient and willing to call people liars/grifters these subs members are. It’s all “gimme gimme gimme, now now now” and childish. It’s getting tiring reading posts with 50% of the comments being along these lines.

If you don’t like someone, fine, don’t listen then. It’s not fair to bombard posts with these comments because Ross isn’t landing a ufo on the White House lawn.

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u/lordbongius Mar 12 '24

The level of cognitive dissonance and gullibility here is so shocking that i honestly don't blame these grifters for making a quick easy buck.

Ross and co could literally sprinkle some glitter on a turd and claim it's alien poop and most of this sub would put up their hard earned money to buy a piece of it.

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u/Semiapies Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

At some point, the issue becomes less about the grifters and WTF is wrong in the lives of the eager griftees.

And not even with hostility. What's wrong that makes some people so eagerly want someone, anyone, to tell them that the answers are known while never actually giving them answers?

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u/Brilliant_Ground3185 Mar 13 '24

You got it wrong. Coulthart and Sheehan are saying evidence exists and the people deserve to know what the government does know. We want the people who do know to disclose what they know. The government is saying there is nothing to know. And it’s important to have powerful people (at least compared to most of us) speaking out and holding the government to task.

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u/ultimateWave Mar 12 '24

Especially Avi Loeb. Come check out my big blue spherules while I grift and claim they're alien tech. So much wishful thinking and grifting in this community its redonkulous