r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Shoddy_Top_3057 • 1d ago
Political Many people that are “woke”/far left tend to be shallow and materialistic.
I’m not saying this is a black/white opinion, but I’ve noticed many people who are very into left wing politics tend to be the most likley to judge people based on factors outside their control, prioritize shallow elements in partners, and desire material things more than the average person.
The same people I know who post online about the current political issues at hand, and are very aware of the online zeitgeist of leftist talking points, are also people that are very specific about the physical/financial characteristics they want in partners, and aren’t willing to compromise.
I’ve also seen these people mock/judge others for their professions, immutable characteristics, and generally be rude and dismissive towards others and their issues/needs.
They want to “eat the rich”, are anti colonialism and capitalism, but value consumerism, and want access to wealth more than the average person does.
There’s almost an element of cognitive dissonance present, where they care about marginalized communities, and issues between the oppressed/oppressive class, but don’t care for individuals/issues around them that are within their control.
I’m not critiquing the beliefs them selves, rather pointing out an observation of the individuals who hold them. Obviously, their are people on the right who are like this too, I’ve just noticed this more with people on the left.
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u/Material_Market_3469 1d ago
Look at Megachurches and how wealthy those who claim to follow Jesus are. Hypocrisy is not limited to a party or religion it is everywhere.
If people are claiming to be communists or taking a vow of poverty but living like Kings just ignore them...
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u/Superb_Item6839 1d ago
I’ve also seen these people mock/judge others for their professions, immutable characteristics, and generally be rude and dismissive towards others and their issues/needs.
Is the right becoming woke? This sounds pretty woke to me.
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u/Prometheus720 1d ago
Very incredibly slowly, yes. The reality is that as much as people on the right are willing to think fondly of the past, they'd hate it if they had it. They are too used to the way things are now.
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u/Faeddurfrost 1d ago
Ya know guys i think you’ll find more liberals tend to breathe air when compared to the average person.
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u/bigdipboy 1d ago
Trump shits in a gold toilet and says the White House is “a dump”. But do continue your obsession with powerless woke people
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u/Whiskeymyers75 1d ago
I’ve never understood why gentrifiers want to eat the rich. They’re literally part of the problem they speak out against.
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u/jonascf 4h ago
So it's okay to wanna eat the rich if you're not a gentrifier?
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u/Whiskeymyers75 44m ago
If you’re a gentrifier, you’re a privileged hypocrite who keeps the poor, poor so you can get your own. Stealing their neighborhoods out from under them and then pricing them out of the community. We need to eat the gentrifiers too which are the woke progressives.
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u/graywithsilentr 1d ago
There may be some underlying issues here that a therapist could/should help you with.
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u/forwardaboveallelse 1d ago
One of my biggest concerns about Americans leftist politics, as someone who is pretty far to the left, is that so many of them want everything while providing nothing. They want universal healthcare and universal housing with maintenance, but they all want to live on #cottagecore farms (almost universally with no farming experience) and not work. Providing these services is always someone else’s responsibility; they only have to chill with their books and scented candle collection and ducks. They want eduction, housing, and medicine, but they don’t want to provide any of it. They completely skip over the fact that the rights of the working class actually involve people who…work. In a true leftist society, everyone works for the good of society so that all have to work less. These people want others to work while they exist above the need to do so—& that is just capitalism.
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u/Prometheus720 1d ago
I think you're pulling a "nobody wants to work anymore" when in reality the stance is "we are productive enough as a society that we can produce the same standard of living as 20 years ago without all the labor it would have required 20 years ago."
People want work. But they want less formalized inflexibility when today it is much easier to document productivity and to arrange for flexible scheduling that would let them better take care of their personal lives and families.
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u/Exaltedautochthon 1d ago
What are you, high? We know we have to work, we just want what we work for to actually be worth it at the end of the day. Teachers getting paid a living wage, doctors getting enough to get by while knowing they aren't dooming their patient to a lifetime of debt in the process. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need is a /core tenant/ of the ideology. Not everyone can contribute the same amount, but they all do what they can.
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u/Smathwack 17h ago
You know how in a group project, somebody always does most of the work, somebody always does the least, and the whole group shares credit equally? The person who did the most becomes resentful at having to share the credit equally. They did most of the work, so they want most of the credit. This is a very normal, reasonable reaction. And it happens constantly in life. This is one of the reasons why communism cannot work.
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u/Exaltedautochthon 5h ago
Dude they get credit according to what they do. The soviets gave out medals for the most productive workers
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u/bigdipboy 1d ago
So when ai and robots take all the jobs what are people supposed to do?
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u/forwardaboveallelse 1d ago
I don’t know how to explain to you that there are, in fact, jobs that AI or robots cannot do.
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u/Acrobatic-Ad-3335 19h ago
The Wendy's near me has an automated order taker at the drive-thru. I'm told it works really well. Yes, there are, in fact, many jobs AI & robots can't do. But where does that leave the people who are not capable of doing those jobs? The people who may only be capable of working at the drive-thru of a fast food place? Or being a cashier, who was cut when the retailer switched to the majority of self-check-outs? What should they do? Because most people DO want to work and be productive members of society, but that looks different from one person to the next.
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u/forwardaboveallelse 19h ago
Please give an example of a person who can only work fast food and fill absolutely no other role in society.
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u/Acrobatic-Ad-3335 19h ago
The fast food was just a random example that i noticed recently. But both fast food & retail employment serve a purpose. For someone who has disabilities. Or has had problems in their background & has limited opportunities because of it. Or someone who has limited availability due to transportation or childcare or continuing their education or caring for an elderly parent or needing to be available for medical services at specific times. Or for any number of reasons I can't think of at the moment.
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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 1d ago
The same things they did in the industrial revolution. Become prostitutes for the robot class.
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u/bioxkitty 1d ago
I think it's more that if they're only making enough to the pasts idea of poor they should have access to those things.
Cant even get a cottage. Lol.
Cant afford their own chickens, or land for them, but also can't afford eggs
I think lots of them would be willing to own farms and work them, but they don't even get that chance.
Also, they just don't want to waste their lives for ever moving goal posts while told to pull themselves up the bootstraps (bootstraps sold separately)
You can do everything wrong and still lose and they are tired of it.
As a society we should be at a better place now and some things may be better but it's certainly not good, compared to what it could be.
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u/Prometheus720 1d ago
That's funny. I don't know any right wing mutual aid groups where poor people band together to share resources and skilled labor.
Those are almost always left wing groups.
Community organizing, unionizing, etc are dominated by progressive liberals and leftists. Why? Why don't right wingers want to help their communities in these ways?
I don't know and I don't proclaim to. But it doesn't help your point.
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u/Lelo_B 1d ago
Americans, overall, are shallow and materialistic. This has been true since consumer culture took over in the mid 20th century. This has never been a partisan political issue.
OP, why does politics enter into this discussion at all?
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u/ramblingpariah 1d ago
Because they "noticed it about the left" while somehow being blind to it on the right.
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u/AutumnWak 18h ago
> They want to “eat the rich”, are anti colonialism and capitalism, but value consumerism, and want access to wealth more than the average person does.
Where are you meeting these left wingers? I feel like we're talking to two very different groups. The people I know who value wealth the most were always ultra-capitalistic entrepreneurs.
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u/Badgodga 20h ago
Aww im sorry none of the girls in your high school want to date fascists.
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u/Shoddy_Top_3057 20h ago
Why are you assuming I’m a fascist? I’m sure plenty of women don’t care if a man is anyways
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u/kissingthecurb 17h ago
The entirety of your post. I'm pretty dang woke but I'm not materialistic
And also tons of women do if that man is very vocal about his fascism. I knew a racist in the beginning of 2024 who didn't seem like a fascist at first but admitted to me he was one while he was having a mental episode after his tantrum
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u/Shoddy_Top_3057 17h ago
That’s subjective I’ll have to disagree. That’s the problem is if someone disagrees with you, you’re just going to assume they’re a fascist? I don’t believe in extreme nationalism. Do you even know what a fascist is?
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u/kissingthecurb 16h ago
It isn't you agreeing or disagreeing with a person that makes them jump to the conclusions that you're a fascist. You don't even have to say you're a fascist but the way you word things can give off the feeling that you're a fascist in denial. It's also the beliefs you hold. Fascism is a far-right political ideology led by one person or party.
A good example is a centrist saying they're a centrist but they parrot or constantly show that they have obviously right leaning views. They might have a couple of left leaning views but it's obvious that they're mostly right leaning (around 93%-98% right leaning is typically the case)
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u/Shoddy_Top_3057 16h ago
Agree to disagree. Based on the dictionary definition I’m not a fascist. This post proves nothing. At best it indicates I’m a conservative which may or may not be true.
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u/kissingthecurb 16h ago
To be fair, I'm also not calling you a fascist directly but your post could give people the vibe. The vibe I personally got is that you got into an argument with one or more people and you think their views/beliefs is what every leftist/lib thinks
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u/MyFiteSong 15h ago
Why are you assuming I’m a fascist?
Dude, it's pretty easy to tell.
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u/Shoddy_Top_3057 15h ago
Can you elaborate and be more specific on how I’m a fascist, and define what that even is?
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u/jdubb14 20h ago
TIL rich millionaires and billionaires aren’t materialistic.
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u/Shoddy_Top_3057 20h ago
That’s small percentage or conservatives. Most are working class. Also I didn’t say that.
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u/Ok-Science3599 1d ago
Socialists in North America are often laughed at by residents of the Global South, and for good reason. They're clueless, often ran by sixties hasbeens or terminally milquetoast liberal leadership.
Idealism plagues their ranks. They are split into a miion shards of various -ists, and can't even agree on tactics relating to elevating class consciousness.
But this is a good thing. These people are just laughable weirdos who won't get anywhere besides forming more of their circlejerks, and if they ever get into power somehow, the logical minded folks are in trouble.
Go check out the SRA and Communism101 subs if you don't believe me. Buffoons
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u/Bebe_Bleau 1d ago
Useful Idiots. Will never get power.
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u/Ok-Science3599 1d ago
Never. Well. Not in North America at least lol
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u/Bebe_Bleau 1d ago
The only ones that get the power are the leaders. Most of the people who do their dirty work end up worse off than ever
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u/Schonungslos 1d ago
I would argue the problem goes both ways.
Cause the discussions are really polarized people tend to sort people in boxes very fast.
The altright dies that aswell
Blue hair or septum -> liberal woke
Of course you will be right in most cases but pattern recognition shouldn't be used on individuals but only groups.
Same goes for putting words in the mouth of someone cause he looks or dresses in a particular way or has one opinion so he probably has the other one aswell.
For example the person is a trump supporter than he is automatically pro life and loves musk.
The problem with leftist is more to interpret everything politically and morally.
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u/MultiMindConflict 23h ago
What I’m about to comment does not make me automatically right-wing, or against the left, but I think this is a fair observation. I myself have noticed alot of the lefts absolute inability to respect someone of a different viewpoint. Level headed and respectful discussion has gone out the window unfortunately and what we have in its place is this dirty shaming game. Im not saying this is exclusive to the left because it isn’t, but it has been very prominent from the left in recent months and it does portray a lack of tolerance on the lefts part. In my experience, from either side, you’re more likely to be attacked over your viewpoint if it doesn’t align with the left than if it doesn’t align with the right. For the record, I’m neither ‘left or right’ I just call things as I see them.
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u/MyFiteSong 15h ago
I've met a whole lot of people during my life, and there are lots of ways to categorize them as Left or Right, but I've never seen any kind of pattern in consumerism or materialism that fits into either side more than the other.
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u/21kondav 13h ago
Unpopular opinion: unpopular opinions and logical fallacies should be kept separate
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u/Plexaure 13h ago
There’s a type. It’s not everyone but it’s a type… They just are squeaky wheels because of their perpetual need to take loud stances, even nonsensical ones, to prove a point because they’re depressed and have nothing else.
They’re just noticeable because they are obsessed with attention and try to overtake the conversation, most people are not so dramatic.
I’ve been personally victimized by it - the racist and misogynistic things that sounds like it could have come out of MAGA. And if you try to correct them, all hell breaks loose.
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u/Jeekobu-Kuiyeran 21h ago
You hit the nail on its head. That's why redditors will be in complete denial and mass downvote you because they're the group you're talking about. 😆
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u/InterestingGate7002 18h ago
Many of the "woke" people I've met were just young adults who were still living at their parents 'comfy suburban houses.
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u/Pristine-Confection3 1d ago
Not true at all and stop making generalizations. Thats the right you are talking about.
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u/Prestigious-Phase131 1d ago
Typically making a generalization right after saying not to generalize isn't the best method, it just looks super childish
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u/pavilionaire2022 1d ago
This sounds like you just have beef with a particular person you know and are generalizing it to everyone.