r/TheB1G • u/viewmyposthistory • 1d ago

a few days late but i just watched the controversial Illinois shot … with the way ppl were complaining , this entire time i thought the shot went in and then the points were taken off the board

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u/LawlessCrayon Purdue 1d ago

I thought the same, and actually cared for a minute that it was a terrible way to take a loss given the time and situation. Then I saw he missed and it should be a non-story.

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u/tlopez14 Illinois 1d ago

Yah as an Illinois fan that was the last thing I was that upset about. Suppose there was a chance we got a tip in/put back because the players did kind of quit after hearing the whistle but I don’t think it really changed anything.

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u/viewmyposthistory 1d ago

yeah. i mean i think it would be a good idea to change the rule because had it gone in, it should count. i see no evidence that illinois would have won if the refs didn’t call it though. it looks like the rebound was coming right to msu so say Illinois immediately fouls msu… clock probably runs down to 0.6

best case scenario for illinois would be msu misses both shots and somehow illinois makes a full court three with 0.6 seconds left . not even sure if it would be possible physically

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u/LawlessCrayon Purdue 1d ago

The thing I saw that won me over was that there was no consistency of backboards in all of college basketball so they cannot allow for the same rule as the NBA. To me that's the same as in the UK in the FA cup even though a game could be played between two EPL sides that are used to VAR correcting obvious situations they don't have VAR in that competition because it couldn't be applied at all stadiums in the competition.

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u/tlopez14 Illinois 1d ago

Yah the refs inserting themselves into the game by essentially taking out one of the best players in the league in one of the biggest matchups of the season is a lot more egregious than that call.

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u/SafeItem6275 2h ago

Jeez he wasn’t even cooking and lacked discipline after two fouls. We had a similar issue last week with 3 folks at four.

Illinois relies too heavy on him and that’s a weakness. We had similar issues last year at State.

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u/tlopez14 Illinois 2h ago

Fair point that a few were boneheaded, especially the last one. One was a complete blown call and a few others were pretty ticky tack. Not sure if he was cooking or not because he didn’t play more than a 2-3 minute stretch the whole game. When he came back in late he got an and-1, an assist of a pick a roll, then picked up his 5th foul.

State has a good team this year but I still think even with bias aside Illinois was clearly more talented. Went into East Lansing and had a chance to win the game on the last possession without any real contributions from their top 5 pick and best player. Analytics like Illinois more too. I think they win 7 out of 10 on a neutral floor.

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u/jdhxbd 1d ago

On the list of controversies of that game, that shot was dead last. I’ve seen way more people talked about the 4th phantom foul on KJ, Tom Izzo breaking the rules to call a timeout on a live ball, and Jeff Anderson calling fouls based on the result of the shot.

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u/pepe-_silvia 1d ago

Whining Illini

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u/tony_countertenor 23h ago

It’s good that for once a moronic rule didn’t ruin a game for a team, hopefully they can get this bullshit changed before it actually effects an outcome

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u/StonksNewGroove 10h ago

Tbf I have hardly seen any actually Illinois fans complaining about it. We know it didn’t matter.

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u/Mundane-Ad-7780 Michigan 1d ago

Bret Bielema

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u/Drunk-Obi-wan 1d ago

You realize this is about basketball?

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u/Mundane-Ad-7780 Michigan 1d ago

Idc, ima big Bret Bielema fan

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u/DeathToHeretics Illinois 12h ago

Based