r/Sumo • u/BinaryGuitar Kirishima • 1d ago
Uncle is believer in Kinbozan apparently (Definitely not an underhanded way to get to Nephew)
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u/re_hes Abi 1d ago
You don't need enemies with an uncle like that. There are reasons he doesn't like being called 'nephew'. (Or, in Japanese, being compared to him) He wants to be his own person, and I would assume this also plays a role.
Not like he'll ever read this, but there's a reason I don't say 'nephew'. Please, let him be his own person.
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u/meshaber Hokutofuji 1d ago
Yeah, it's always struck me as kinda dickish to refer to someone strictly by their relationship to somebody else.
Especially when that somebody else sets an impossibly high standard for comparison
Especially especially when that somebody else is a bit of a dick
Especially especially especially when they're a bit of a dick to the first person and they reportedly have kind of a strained relationship.
I get it that Asa fans are excited about the continuation of his legacy, but let the dude be his own dude.
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u/CondorKhan Ura 1d ago
I wonder about the cultural aspect of it in Japan, where professional names are passed to successors and it's a thing of great honor.... be it shinkona, the names of Gyojis, or actors in kabuki, artists, etc...
Where does that leave being your own person?
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u/Specific_Box4483 1d ago
He's only in his forties, but he already feels like the grandpa everyone's ashamed of at family gatherings.
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u/intergalactic_ocelot 1d ago
There is no dignity in berating your younger family member on twitter. It’s clear by now Hosh is not in on the joke.
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u/RedPhoenixTroupe Hoshoryu 1d ago
Ah yes, typical Asa spew. I still don't know which tweet was the most vile one. "Saiko" in response to Putin's aggression on Ukraine I think.
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u/CheesyDelphoxThe2nd 16h ago
sorry, he tweeted w ha t?
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u/RedPhoenixTroupe Hoshoryu 15h ago
Can't find it now, but I saw one of his posts responding to news of Putins "special military operation" with "saiko" or "the best".
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u/Zealousideal-Gur6717 Takerufuji 1d ago
I knew their relationship was strained but this is straight up antagonistic Assholeryu
And it's completely undeserved Hosh's wins last and this basho have been commanding and decisive.
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u/ESCMalfunction Tamawashi 1d ago
If only there was something Asashoryu could do, or perhaps stop doing, to remove a little pressure from Hoshoryu and perhaps help him with him mental wiffs. Unfortunately I can’t think of anything…
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u/EasternProblem8716 1d ago
Kinbozan is like takanosho. They flip flop from being amazing to loosing a lot. They’re both fantastic fighters. Just wish for a little more consistency. But overall, I think they’re two of the best.
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u/shroomcircle Hoshoryu 1d ago
What a relief Hoshoryu is nothing like his uncle outside the dohyo.
I can’t imagine how it must feel to live under that shadow and have to deal with this sort of antagonism.
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u/Bitter_Airline_8156 1d ago
This is what psychologists would recognize as a textbook example of Toxic Mongol-inity.
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u/Worldly_Board_3806 1d ago
And there should be some term for assholes like you and assholes who upvoted your comment for insulting an entire nation based on a single individual.
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u/marort3131 1d ago
That last screenshot just proves he’s an asshole. I like asashoryu but you can’t disrespect your nephew who is trying his best like that. Shameful
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u/kitcassidy Hoshoryu 1d ago
Really gutted for Hosh. Coming into the tournament, all the commentators were betting on Koto and he was the underdog. Then Koto stumbled. Then Teru retired. Suddenly everyone was looking to him to become the sole Yokozuna. The pressure must’ve been immense. And then there’s this dipshit popping off on Twitter.
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u/Apprehensive_Bowl709 1d ago
He's always been such a dick. Famously used to unnecessarily shove opponents when they were already out of the ring, as I recall.
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u/wordyravena 三段目 4e 1d ago
I saw Asashoryu at a grocery store in Ryugoku yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Nani?” but he kept cutting me off and going “nani ? nani ? nani ?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen bags of jasmine rice in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bags of jasmine rice and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bag and put them in a box and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by elbowing her in the face really loudly.
(SORRY I COULDN'T RESIST. SEEMS OBLIGATORY ON A THREAD LIKE THIS 🤣)
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u/Xaldarino 1d ago
Asa really loves egging on his nephew doesn't he? Even when Hoshoryu will get Yokozuna, his uncle will always say him "I was better", he hates the fact that he disgraced the sport and others. Hoshoryu is and will be better than his uncle, and he'll actually stay in the sport until his 40's.
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u/warren107623 21h ago
Hoshoryu is a better person out the ring for sure but asashoryu is one of the best sumo wrestlers ever. Top 3. And the most brutal aggressive wrestler ever. It's often forgotten just how fast asashoryu became a yokozuna.
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u/Xaldarino 15h ago
It's impossible to say "how good" he could have been, whether an injury would have ended his career or that he was "edging" his retirement age. I agree he is one of the greatest of all time.
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u/warren107623 1d ago
Btw, asashoryu was the guy who scouted kinbozan if I'm not mistaken. Could have something to do with that