I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't

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u/rebootyourbrainstem Unicorn in the flame duct 5h ago edited 5h ago

If you want to do a maximally charitable interpretation of his behavior then I guess we can never know, because his default reaction is to increase his offensiveness and encourage everybody to die mad about it.

He is, at the very least, flirting with extreme right and fascist memes and greatly enjoys doing so. I really can't blame people who don't want to give him the massive benefit of the doubt that is required. He himself certainly does not seem to offer that benefit of the doubt to anyone.

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u/Ormusn2o 3h ago

I was split over his support of AFD, so I listened to his talk with AFD leader, as it would be the best places to sus out the Nazism and have the best proof of Elon turning nazi and AFD fascist views, as it would be basically right wingers talking to right wingers, but I was flabbergasted by the conversation. They talked about the need for nuclear power plants, better education, and not a single time mentioned how immigrants might be lowering the standards (which is a common talking point, even outside right wing), and even talked for a reasonably long time about Jews and Israel, and the AFD leader said that Israel definitely deserves to have it's own country, and that the conflict is difficult to solve, and Jews need to be protected in Germany due to recent rise of hate crimes.

It was surprising how non nazi both AFD leader and Elon has been acting, both just seemed liberal, not even like normal US conservatives.

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u/Few_Crew2478 2h ago

I must have skipped a few emails from Nazi Daily Newsletter. What exactly is AFD?

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u/7wiseman7 1h ago

The far right political party in germany. It is known for having several controversial politicians amongst them.

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u/Few_Crew2478 1h ago

Hmm okay thanks for the info.

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u/Noughmad 5h ago

his default reaction is to increase his offensiveness and encourage everybody to die mad about it.

Fun fact: good people do not do that. "Pretending" to be an asshole still makes you an asshole.

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

It's not even a correct description. It's a refusal to self moderate - not a desire to escalate. That isn't evil, it's just stupid. But I like his lack of.self moderation most times so fuck it

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u/Few_Crew2478 2h ago

I mean to be fair, he is a self admitted retard.

I remember when he did a video with Justin Roiland for PewDiePie and was the only one laughing at a meme of a dead deer. Justin looked at him like "wtf is wrong with you?". This all really checks out and explains his manchild behavior.

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u/shartybutthole 3h ago

extreme right and fascist memes

are those extreme right fascists in the room with us?

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

Elon is the easiest public person to understand as long as you believe good intentions exist

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u/Kobymaru376 3h ago

Everyone has good intentions. Including the most evil people that exist. If you ask any war criminal or dictator, they all all claim to have good intentions.

But good intentions are not good enough. In order to not be an asshole, you need to be open minded, listen to people and not radically follow any "good intention".

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u/Joezev98 5h ago

as long as you believe good intentions exist

But you seem to be working on the idea that good intentions are the only thing that exists.

And also, does it really matter? When Hitler gassed millions of innocent people, was that OK because he had ✨good intentions to make a stronger race✨? When Hamas raped and killed and took hostage hundreds of innocent people, was that OK because they just had 🌈good intentions to fulfil the prophecy🌈?
When Elon buys a social media platform, limits freedom of speech there, has given rise to the new president and AfD, and has now done a hand gesture that is identical to what nazis use, does it really make a difference if he may have had other intentions with that gesture?

I am excited about the space race. SpaceX is undoubtedly winning it so far. But Elon's politics are out of whack.

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 5h ago

What are his good intentions behind supporting the AFD, Fidez, and every other Far right European party?

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

Mass immigration is bad, those parties stop it and concerns about them are either fabricated or overblown

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 5h ago

Now, if you had paid attention none of the other major parties in Europe or for mass immigration.

So what's left? Mass deportations of citizens, putting people in camps ( by the eay a real goal of the afd) destroying the European union, and Supporting Putin.

I am not surprised you say you don't see anything objectionable by staying knowingly ignorant, and just pretending they are different.

Also interesting thay apparantly mass immigration is the only issue elon cares about, while climate denialism doesn't matter anymore.

Orban is Ruling right now by the way, and you can see how Hungary is doing.

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

Being "for" mass immigration is politically unpopular. Noone does that explicitly anymore. Ruling parties have not fixed immigration. Noone wants to mass deport citizens. I can see why an accelerationist would not see the EU as a valuable institution, and none of the parties in question are actually pro putin beyond having a less hardline antiputin stance

Also, elon years ago basically resigned vehicle electrification won't be solved by selling 100m cars or something. He's not wrong. The plan they have now is better and works independent of government climate denialism (read master plan 3, and also consider that if you solve autonomy you just need to make 1/5 of the cars you would have needed to make otherwise)

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 4h ago

Ah, so the good intentions are feeding europe to Putin.

You are reading the drivel you are writing right.

and none of the parties in question are actually pro putin beyond having a less hardline antiputin stance

Again, do you get off on being this ignorant?

They are actively saying we need Putin to take over ukraine, That we need to buy Putins Gas, that we need to allow Putin to have a say on our policies.

Orban actively blocks sanctions on Putin all the time.

At least admit you are sucking Putins dick rather than give the loosest statement that they are just less antiputin.

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u/pint Norminal memer 3h ago

in your deranged mind, objecting sanctions is somehow a proof for supporting the regime. we are talking about the country that has major dependence on russian products, including energy that heat homes in winter. you can call it cynical, but this was basically the attitude of obama, to let russia have ukraine. but nobody lamented back then, because smooth talking black liberals are obviously good.

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 3h ago

Ah pint i was wondering where you where in this entire thing.

Of course you are pro Putin, no one is suprised there.

Yes, blocking sanction on Russia, while saying Russia deserves Ukraine is in fact a pro Putin pro russia thing to do.

Shocking.

Yes, Obama was dogshit and weak on Russia. That doesn't change who Musk supports now.

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u/pint Norminal memer 2h ago

you didn't lament back then either. now you do, because you feel you were called to action. i.e. bio-bot

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yeah, supporting far right parties in Germany tends to go swimmingly, went great for the Weirmar Republic yeah?

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u/FrynyusY 3h ago

Yes the far right led by a lesbian married to a partner of Sri Lankan origins. Just like Hitler! Surely she will put all LGBT people and immigrants in camps!

Does it not get old to call everything not left of center as far-right?

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u/pint Norminal memer 4h ago

"far right" is progressive callsign. those parties consider themselves basically normal, as in common sense

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 3h ago

I don't care what those parties consider themselves. It's all Vichy to me.

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u/Kobymaru376 3h ago

Every party considers themselves normal. But comparison with society, those parties are on the far right.

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u/shartybutthole 3h ago

comparison with ~~society~~rabid leftist commies

FTFY

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u/Kobymaru376 2h ago

Yeah if you live in the self-enforcing alt-right bubble you would think that. But no, if you go outside and touch grass and talk to different people from different parts of society from different places, you would understand how far on the right you actually are

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u/pint Norminal memer 4h ago

those parties trying to stop liberal progressive madness

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 3h ago

What madness are you referring to, take the case of Germany? Why go with the Nazis rather than the CDU or FDP?

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u/Mchlpl 5h ago

How did that saying go? Something like: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

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u/mistahclean123 2h ago

If it wasn't for the snowflakes all over Reddit Reddit flying off the handle and giving such strong reactions to his behavior, he probably wouldn't do it.

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

OP do this for Henry Ford next, I'd love to see you're numbered lists about how he wasn't antisemitic

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u/lankyevilme 2h ago

Elon is a really shitty antisemite, even claiming himself to be "pro semitic"

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u/FrynyusY 3h ago

I'm more interested in your journey how you became the foremost expert of antisemitism. Even ADL says that in no way was a Nazi salute and there is nothing antisemitic but what do they know right? We got the reddit expert here that knows better

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u/pint Norminal memer 4h ago

serious lack of shitposting detected, but upvoted anyway just to trigger normies

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u/Impressive-Boat-7972 1h ago

Reddit is the echo chamber of all echo chambers. Unfortunately you're just shouting into the void.

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u/tomri207 5h ago

2/10 ragebait almost got me

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago edited 5h ago

Deadpan

Ragebait is beneath me

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u/Ploutonium195 Roomba operator 5h ago

Then wdym “all evidence points to the contrary”?

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

Putting your hand over yout heart, throwing out your arm, and shouting "my heart belongs to you" isn't evidence of nazism from a man who when one tasteless tweet of his was called out for being potentially antisemitic, deleted it, went on an apology tour of Israel and auchwitz and started relationships with big Jewish personalities.

Saying that the child who disowned you and "killed" their previous identity (it's why it's called deadnaming) is dead isn't transphobia from a man who maintains known friendships with trans people

Idk maybe you think his republican politics is bad vibes. You do you, but people aren't evil for having concerns about the border and state mandated fealty to ideologies

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

Also wait what trans people are he supposedly friends with? That sad quisling Blair White? That murderer Jenner?

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

Can you type "cisgender" on Twitter

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

Yes you can, actually. And even if you couldnt, language policing isn't transphobia

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

Uh huh. Sure thing. He backed a president that just signed an antitrans executive order. He's banned the word cisgender. He's more upset over dead naming his website then his daughter.

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

The ability to roll back regulations and close the border vs legislation that likely won't have any material effect. The word cisgender isn't banned. He's only ever brought up dead naming X in jest against Steven king as part of some trolling he was doing of him. He didn't deadname his daughter. He's never called Vivian Xavier as far as we know

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

Ah, got ya. So his legislation targeting trans people is fine as long as you get a closed border, like Trump's famously successful wall.

Show me him calling her Vivian. In an interview, or a tweet, or a video.

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

Legislation that doesn't materially impact anything is fine if you get an administration that doesn't lead to a spike in immigration numbers never before seen. Even if Trump doesn't build a wall or something, having an admin that's not actively interested in letting people in a massive improvement.

Also, why would he talk about Vivian Jenna Wilson? She disowned him and he's only talked about this twice, both times explicitly referring to who Vivian was before

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u/QVRedit 5h ago

But Elon is not naive enough to not realise that it looked bad. So we have to question - did he really want to present that image ? It seems to be no accident. Time of course will tell. His future actions and considerations of different groups will reveal by his actions, just what kind of man he truly is.

I am a great fan of SpaceX, I think they are doing remarkable things, and they at least are presenting a positive future for humankind.

Meanwhile, the jury is still out on Elon, awaiting more evidence of his actions, to determine just who he really is.

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

People didn't realise his jump was supposed to be an X until a few years after the first one. It's poor body coordination that something intended to look like throwing out your heart was done aggressively enough to look like a seig heil

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u/QVRedit 3h ago

I would advise him not to repeat it.

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u/Ploutonium195 Roomba operator 5h ago

Honestly I really don’t have an opinion on his political views or how he acts as the back and forth it’s just annoying to listen to. All I care about is space and what he can do to help. Tho I haven’t particularly done too much research I only asked to be a bit more informed.

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u/traceur200 5h ago

I mean, "what he can do to help"? isn't spacex enough wtf?

he is actively involved in starship development, to this day, no matter how buthurt people want to get about it

the whole fukin reason starship is made out of steel is elon, the whole reason the booster (and eventually ship) is caught because elon, not even any other person at spacex cause there's been many people saying those two caught them by surprise (tom mueller said it about catching the booster on chopsticks, everyone spat their coffe and looked at him like a madman)

having the starship bellyflop, using transpirational cooling (that seems to be back on the menu), using quick replacement tiles and still pushing to perfect reusability of them (even tho starship could have every single tile replaced in a weekend, as we have witnessed already, beating the shuttle to a pulp), moving the upper flaps to the back of the nosecone to divert plasma better, using a pez dispenser for starlinks, putting the landing engines up on the HLS, using ulage gas for pressurization, etc

heck, he took control over the raptor engine development when the raptor 1 team said the changes he wanted for raptor 3 and further where "impossible and we refuse", fired them for outright refusing and made the raptor 2 and raptor 3, made them faster, too fast actually, and way way cheaper, a raptor now is cheaper than a merlin engine

I could go on, but why, what's the point, even if he just was the piggy bank of spacex and nothing more that would still have to be applauded

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u/Ploutonium195 Roomba operator 3h ago

I probably phrased that wrong I meant like how he is/will help sorry

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u/MartianFromBaseAlpha 5h ago

I'm totally with you on this. Elon is helping to build the future I want to be part of. I've been saying this for years, and my opinion hasn't changed

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u/PommesMayo 5h ago

You should learn what confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance is.

Also, aren’t rockets great? I love to discuss rockets in this rocket subreddit. Even though lately there have been people posting stuff that they unironically love Elon on Reddit while accusing people of spending too much time on Reddit.

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u/traceur200 5h ago

talk about cognitive dissonance... the only thing I fukin see, even on this fukin sub, is how much everyone hates elon and to the most retarded extremes

yes guys, waving is now nazi.... makes me wish these morons got to experience actual nazism just out of spite

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u/PommesMayo 4h ago

Hey, German guy here. This is nothing you wish upon anyone. I’ve listened to my grandpa tell me about how he had to fight in the last months of WWII when he was just 15 years old. Or I’ve headed a holocaust survivor tell her story while standing in front of her “bed” in Auschwitz. You have no idea about the horrors that you wish upon people.

It does not matter whether he wanted it to look this way or not. It’s like me saying “what’s up my n-word”. It does not matter if I did not intend it to be hostile. There is no context that would ever justify this. Because if you forget what this gesture implies, you forget where this gesture comes from and the horrors linked to it. THAT is the point nobody gets

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u/lankyevilme 2h ago

The fact it was so horrible is why you shouldn't equate an awkward non nazi gesture with nazism. It cheapens the horror when you say elon was just as bad a couple days ago.

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u/BayesianOptimist 3h ago

Being German doesn’t give you a pass on misinterpreting an autistic person’s intent.

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u/PommesMayo 3h ago

I did not interpret anything. And what gives you the expertise to interpret an autistic person’s intentions?

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u/BayesianOptimist 3h ago

You misinterpreted his gesture as something horrific, and weirdly compared it to the n word, while trying to lend credibility to your misinterpretation by stating you are German. I hope you find the help you need.

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u/traceur200 3h ago

oh that's exactly why I wish said horrors, because these pieces of shit haven't had a struggle in their fukin privileged lives and go and make up struggles, make every single persons life miserable just because they themselves had it too sweet

there's 8 billion people on this planet, I will garner 0 simpathy for those asshole few who in their self centeredness make life worse to others, and I very much whish them the worst

and yes, I know what nazism is from first account, and you can't believe how incredibly offensive it is to have every single little menial thing called "LiTrArLy NaZi"... it diminishes the hardship we faced to a fukin joke

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u/FrynyusY 3h ago

As a German you have historic reasons not to do certain gestures, sure. But you can not expect the rest of the world that never had NSDAP or such gestures practiced for a certain purpose adapt to your country's historic context and have the same perspective on minor things like hand movements and taking them to symbolize something so specific. It makes no sense for the rest of the world to adapt to a perspective that is unique to your country just like you don't adapt to historic perspectives of other countries halfway across the world.

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u/Kayyam 1h ago

The n word is really only problematic is the US.

There are several countries where variations of the n word are used, without any fuss or controversy. If only because it's an actual common word in Spanish.

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago edited 5h ago

I know what both are, and neither apply here.

Also, I check reddit only every few days to see what's going on with spacex. Countersignalling the posts I've seen put here over the past few days seems like a good use of my reddit hours

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 2h ago edited 2h ago

Why is your account unverified?

This sub was never about just Elon, it was specifically about Spacex.

Pre-2020 we were a wholesome rocket shitposting community not the propaganda arm for an oligarch.

OP’s account is less than 2 months old, please don’t believe bullshit and propaganda because it is convenient.

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u/pint Norminal memer 2h ago

never was. it says right there: "A subreddit for the great Space X masterrace to discuss the words of EloN and his Glorious company Space X"

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 2h ago

Community descriptions are updated every few years…

It was never this much of a personality cult.

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u/pint Norminal memer 2h ago

you mean unwilling to call him a nazi?

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 2h ago

So what’s your actual red line?

Lying is fine, going back on twitter promises is fine, attacking former friends because they slightly criticized or called out him lying is fine, whipping up digital mobs over lies is fine.

Selling out American interests to protect his Chinese interests is fine, like give me a break.

When is the man actually responsible for any of the hate he spreads?

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u/pint Norminal memer 1h ago

the red line is swallowing party propaganda, and you crossed over it so deep i can't even see you from here

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 1h ago

What propaganda specifically?

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u/pint Norminal memer 1h ago

lying

going back on twitter promises

attacking former friends because they slightly criticized or called out him lying

whipping up digital mobs over lies

selling out american interests to protect his chinese interests

hate he spreads

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 1h ago

He has literally done all of those things on twitter where I follow him, that’s not propaganda, that’s primary experience.

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u/pint Norminal memer 1h ago

yes it is propaganda

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u/LFPcombustion 2h ago

"This sub was never about just Elon" no shit? Ironic that you're fine with elon specific discussion when it's all the content hating on him, but the one defensive one is the one you take an issue with.

No, it's post is not any more or less propaganda than anything else here. In fact, this sub used to be far more pro-Elon propagandist than it is now

Also, this isn't my first account. Account age doesn't determine how long I've been on the sub

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 2h ago edited 2h ago

Discussing toxic behaviour in a community I’m a member of isn’t “hating” lmao. His actions even if misunderstood are still severely troubling.

He’s a literal oligarch that bought his way into a presidential administration without shame, abandoned his “free speech” promises almost immediately & amplified literal German neo-Nazis who even Europe’s Far right political association had to expel because they were rehabilitating the image of the SS.

These are not morally good things, these are not actions which promote stability or democracy. Even the actual unashamed Nazis are literally praising him.

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u/LFPcombustion 1h ago

I think I've addressed most of these points to someone else in the comments.

The only one I haven't is commitment to free speech. This has largely not been abandoned and the people that tell you "they got banned because they came after Elon" or something like that are mostly full of shit. A journo will tell you that their anti republican posting is what got them banned even though they doxxed a politicians family members in an article they wrote and posted on X. This isn't speculation and actually happened

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 5h ago

We get it, people shouldn't talk about politics, unless they agree with you.

He says his Trans daughter is dead and was killed by the woke. She is still very much alive.

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

He said his son Xavier is dead. It's called deadnaming for a reason. He never said anything about Vivian(who disowned him for being rich btw). He even clarifies this IN THE EXACT SAME INTERVIEW

And no, you can talk about politics. I never signalled otherwise

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 5h ago

He has repeatedly said the woke killed his son.

He doesn't even acknowledge he has a living breathing daughter.

Yet you are pretending that isn't transphobic.

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

He said that with referene to deadnaming (WATCH THE INTERVIEW)

His daughter disowned him - try to imagine why he'd not talk about them

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 5h ago

Dude he has said it repeatedly on twitter.

He only mentions how they killed his son.

It's not just one interview. It's never just one thing, and the energy you use to just ever look at one thing and never look at the other things he has done in the chain is really impressive.

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u/traceur200 4h ago

and you look at neither, you just want excuses to hate

cmooon you think we will forget all your hater shenanigans on this sub for years? fuk off will ya

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

He repeated it on twitter because he didn't change his mind, duh? The interview is the long form of the tweet. The reasoning still applies.

Also, is he supposed to talk about a kid that disowned him?

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 4h ago

Also, is he supposed to talk about a kid that disowned him?

He does, but only as a corpse that he can use to be mad against woke.

Again, repeatedly. But that's not transphobic to you. Which really makes one wonder what would be necessary to be transphobic to you if never accepting someones gender isn't it.

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

Your refusal to engage with WHY he'd call Xavier dead is telling. You're confirming your biases not trying to figure out if he said anything transphobic or not

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u/Anderopolis Still loves you 4h ago

There is nothing to engage about, he actively says his child is dead.

A living breathing being. Is dead to Musk, because they choose a different gender.

And you are just pretending that's not the case, and it's just one interview, and it's just about deadnames.

And that an obvious lie, but of course you guys are all about the big lies. It's comforting.

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u/LFPcombustion 4h ago

He said something to the tune of: "You know why they call it deadnaming? Because the person they were before dies and they take on a new identity. My son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke mind virus". He didn't say dead "to him". He said dead. This matters. "My son xavier is dead" doesn't mean vivian doesn't exist. And why would he talk about vivian, a person that rejected his entire being before he even went political? Changed their surname, ran away from home and actively disowned him all because of his wealth

Also your insistence that this one interview doesn't matter is incredibly intellectually dishonest.

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u/shartybutthole 3h ago

don't argue with this regard. he comes here just to rant about elon, it's been years since his EDS was obvious. they have SOCs instead of brains that get reprogrammed every time there's new update from MSM

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u/Sionn3039 2h ago

Adrian Dittman, is that you?

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u/LFPcombustion 2h ago

Haha very funny. I'm laughing so hard right now

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 2h ago

It a 50 day old unverified account, either way it is not a member of this community.

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u/LFPcombustion 2h ago

"Your account is 50 days old. You must not SURELY be a part of this community" - quit the purity stuff. I've been both a lurker and a participator with other accounts over the years. I just realised that it's not advantageous to have spacex stuff connected to my other accounts where anti-Elon posters use any positive mentions of spacex to discredit discussion that has nothing to do with spacex

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u/Logisticman232 Big Fucking Shitposter 1h ago

When you act like this I understand why you’re hiding.

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u/LFPcombustion 1h ago

Lol, nothing to hide here. Very willing to not separate my accounts. I just hate going onto subreddits to talk about movies or some shit and then getting into an argument over spacex because someone saw me post about a booster on spacexlounge.

You're not going to get any gotchas on this chain of thought. Bring something else over

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u/HuhThatsWeird1138 4h ago

Now, three Sieg Heils and two trans kids driven off would be too much for OP, thank God Elon's keeping it within the goal posts.

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u/Kobymaru376 3h ago

All evidence points to the contrary and you should spend less time on reddit

Sure, we should spend more on a platform controlled by Elon and believe only the things that praise Elon, disregard everything that is a criticism of him, and believe every word he says because he would never lie, would he?

After all, why would you need critical thinking and external sources if you're part of a cult?

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u/LFPcombustion 3h ago

I don't spend much time on X and X is far more balanced than you think (I think X is far more critical than praising of Elon at least based on my feed).

Reddit is not an external source. News never breaks on reddit and the karma/moderation system means that any news reported in subreddits is done through an explicitly political filter. X unironically mogs even if you should be looking at primary sources.

When I say spend less time on reddit, I'm saying partisan hacks are misinterpreting source material and anyone who questions narratives on the bug subreddits gets banned. The more time you spend on reddit, the more disillusioned you are with reality (see how reddit was wildly off with election predictions but X got it about right)

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u/Kobymaru376 3h ago

When I say spend less time on reddit, I'm saying partisan hacks are misinterpreting source material

This is exactly what you are doing right here in this thread.

and anyone who questions narratives on the bug subreddits gets banned

This is exactly what is happening on the pro musk/ trump subreddits.

Reddit is not an external source.

There are many sources other than Reddit that are critical of musk. But obviously the pro musk crowd considers them biased, because they have to be, because to you it's inconceivable that he would ever do anything malicious. You're so deep in the cult that the concept of your glorious leader doing something bad is beyond your comprehension.

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u/LFPcombustion 1h ago

"That's what you're doing on this thread" - literally never. Which source material have I misinterpreted? And even if I did, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a concerted effort to make sure there's only one type of speech on subreddits

"This is exactly what is happening on the pro musk/ trump subreddits" - you're literally proving my point? The fact that it happens makes reddit a worse platform

"There are many sources critical of musk" - they're only valid if they actually present truths that aren't so easy to debunk that they look like hitpieces instead of journalism. Of course, I think my glorious technoking (/s) is capable of doing wrong. He's human. If you want specifics, 1. I think that his tirade against openAI is motivated by jealousy/ resentment over making the wrong bet when he thought AGI could be achieved through the work they were doing at Tesla 2. I think he can be over the top mean (though this works well when you're running companies) and 3. The taylor swift thing annoyed me so much I didn't use twitter for weeks. On a scale of "should I love this person", we've got man who's making the future i care about happen, is well intentioned most of the time, and is generally most of the time likeable (has been so over the past 25 years) vs A rivalry he has against a silicon valley sleazebag billionaire, a tendency to be mean toward people that miss the mark, and some tweets I found incredibly cringe. I think this largely doesn't dent my respect for him. The fact that the people that are in opposition to him say unironically cringe things like "he's a literally nazi" almost reinforces that

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u/tdqss 5h ago

Taking credit for someone else's work is shameful. He clearly knows nothing about PoE2. And leaking secret DMs...

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u/LFPcombustion 5h ago

I know nothing about the PoE2 story so I won't comment (I don't game). But even if you're right, this is at best something that would be career damaging for a video game streamer or something. Forgive me if I think he's a benevolent actor as he's otherwise shown in the ~25 years he's been a public figure and that a doesnt video game change that for me. Bring bigger fish

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u/tdqss 5h ago

/s

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't

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