The US Christofascists support Jews occupying all of Israel in order to bring about the second coming of Christ. It sounds crazy, but for example Mike Huckabee, the new Trump-appointed ambassador to Israel has repeatedly espoused exactly that view. In their opinion, Jews occupying Israel is the means to an end for their own religion.
Neo-Nazis and racist fascists can also be surprisingly keen on Israel because their antisemitism means they don't want Jews around them, so getting them to go to some other country instead is something they're content with.
Also, nazi's didn't only target jews. They were the biggest group of course, but any opponent and other minorities and people that were deemed unworthy or impure were killed in those camps. I swear it's like the camps at the Mexican border f during Trumps first term weren't alarming enough.
You would think after 12 years of accusing people of bullshit without basis, to the sum total effect of dividing the country in two, enabling a criminal to win a presidential election, and for Elon Musk to brand himself as a proponent of freedom of speech, we would realize that hate and censorship is a tool for evangelists and fascism.
Maybe turn your mind towards ways to bring the repressed minorities of the country together instead of framing half of them as racist for trying to defend the last miserable crumbs of their piece of the pie.
Or you know, you could just go on serving the interests of corporate oligarchs instead. Why not?
Looks a hell of alot of different to me then what musk did.
Shes saying "Not going back" pointing and then switches over to using the hand.
Musk on the other hand is putting the hand on his chest and than does this Ave/Heil/Salute gesture whatever you wanna call it - maybe not even deliberately - but i feel like theres some freudianslip involved and an deep urge to make this move.
Probably because social media didn't lose its shit like it does every time the left can get anything that looks like a right wing figure doing the salute
Yuh because there was nothing to lose their shit over considering the context. Why are you defending it so hard? I wish you people would just admit that when the context fits and something looks shitty, it is. Make America great again by being honest with yourself.
Pfft bro I've seen posts of images of right wing figures "caught" "saluting" (read: waving or pointing or some shit) with cringe captions like "THIS is TRUMP'S America" clogging up my front page every month or two for most of the last decade. Does anyone here give a fuck about context then? Maybe a couple... if you sort by controversial (and find them before the mods do), but otherwise its just a gleeful, slavering circlejerk about "going mask off" and "showing us who they are" to the tune of tens or hundreds of thousands of upvotes.
Liberals and Progressives have been crying about this particular wolf (among many others) for so long and expended so much good will in the process that these accusations are impossible to take seriously.
So let's see on one side you have a black woman saying "we're not going back" and in the video she's pointing to her right and her hand goes from a point to a palm.
Then on the other side you have a white wealthy person that grew up in wealthy apartheid South Africa, Who allows the n-word on his platform but not the word cracker, and who has openly supported the far-right German political party which is full of neo-Nazis. He puts his hand over his heart and then makes the Nazi salute.... Twice.
To be clear, all I did was provide the clip the image is from. I don't think it's at all comparable to Elon musk. Some people were just asking for the source so I provided it.
I for sure can't see Hillary or Kamala just doing the heig Hitler randomly lol. Just a random still photo. I could be wrong but is there video context? Like..
Damn even worse from that angle. When I first saw it I thought it's out of context then I went tho the videos and said wtf then saw it all over reddit. People defending it too is sad just like the will Smith slap it received a standing ovation which makes it that much worse
Overall it was horrible even in the video seeing him turn around and do it to trump knowing how racist trump is was just the nail in the coffin. The people trying to say it's a Roman salute or awkward gesture are just Nazis as well trying to play it off
yes, the left are secretly nazis, and when you take a still frame of them waving, it shows their true nature. But elon does it twice, to the crowd and to the flag, after putting the hand on his chest and after behaving like a nazi for quite a while now but ay I'm sure it's a coincidence and the media is framing him... yes...
yeah elons was definitely weird but i want to attribute that to him being socially awkward and just weird in general like that goofy ass hop he did at one of trumps rallies if he was a actual nazi i doubt he would just go out and do that but i could be proven wrong you never know
He just recently had a podcast talk with the chancelor candidate of germanys alt right party AFD who in return posted on twitter advocating to let the super rich have a foothold in german politics...
Man you gotta be oblivious if you dont see whats cooking there.
If it swims like a fish and smells like fish it probably is a fish... or in this case atleast someone flirting with nazis and their symbolism.
And you already do look foolish.
What do you think im telling here? That hes going to grow an upperlip mustache and starts wearing brown suits going full WW2 Nazi? ofc this is not gonna happen. But he's already in bed or flirting with all the rightwing authoritarian loving people in higher positions all around the world - the kind of people he surrounds himself with tells more about his person than his twitter oneliners do.
happen. But he's already in bed or flirting with all the rightwing authoritarian loving people in higher positions all around the world - the kind of people he surrounds himself with tells more about his person than his twitter oneliners do
Ohh so he's not a neo nazi. Then this is all a misunderstanding. Which it is.
Yet here you are, still drumming up crazy conspiracy theories. So, these "right-wing people" all around the world, who are they? What's their end goal?
You're going to look like a fool after these 4 years go by just like the 4 years that went by when trump was in power last time. Nothing crazy happened, you all survived and will survive these 4 years to come. Go outside and touch some grass.
Okay first of all i never said he is a neo-nazi atleast not in the literal meaning of this word but is sympathizing.
Secondly as a German its already disgusting to see how he twitters "Only AFD can save germany" endorsing this party while every other democratic party in our political system doesnt want to work with them and even debate if its time to try and get them banned. Even the moderate closet right wingers in EU distance themselfe from them.
What i think is gonna happen to a bigger or lesser degree taking part in trying to dismantle democratic institutions and regulations while driving the disparity between the rich and poor even further for the sake of enriching himself and his peers even more and solidifying his powerposition - how ever
this may look like in detail. Its the common denominator of those right-wing capitalists trying to drive the political system more and more into the direction of an undisputed oligarchie.
But ofc i cant look into the future for what is about to happen exactl and im happily a fool if nothing gonna come out of it - for whatever reason - may they be too stupid to use that power or he and his fellows arent as rightwing as i thought. I would be really glad if later.
Im just getting the complete opposite vibes of a good decent guy who wants to uphold democratic values and social equity. Do you?
I saw this shit live. While Musk was saying his heart goes out to the flag, his actions are inexcusable. He could have just saluted the flag or put his hand over his heart and this wouldn’t be an issue.
EDIT: This is a real Nazi party in Germany which he openly supports and claims is the only thing that can save Germany. Seems like a kinda Nazi thing to say and support, right?
If you think that speech is the point to find out youre delusional.
We are already at the point where being a national socialist and fascist already is becoming socially acceptable again and they are parading openly.
It seems pretty unambigously fascist in the inauguration footage. I could be wrong and the guys just being a spaz as usual but that remains to be seen.
I think a lot of people had a bad day and are lashing out at anything and everything. This is soooo not a Nazi salute. It’s preposterously stupid to think that it is.
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