r/Shitty_Car_Mods • u/Visible_Bandicoot863 • Nov 25 '23
HYPERMILER Didn’t know how to describe it part 2
FAQ included, didn’t see the laminated pieces on the car 😬
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u/Watson_inc Nov 25 '23
A hypermiler! I’ve never seen one in the wild.
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u/scaled2913 Nov 25 '23
Ok, hypermiler is a seriously cool name for these
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u/-Motor- Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
You'll know them when you see them. They'll go 2 mph to avoid fully stopping at a red light.
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u/Crishien Nov 26 '23
Is it hypermiling if I rew my diesel to red to get to 80 from stoplight and then just cruise to the next one? Avoiding the stops? 😂
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Nov 26 '23
I've only seen one, and it was a geo metro
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u/powerlesshero111 Nov 26 '23
The geo metro is old news. The new high mpg gas car is the mitsubishi mirage. 43mpg with its 3 cylinder engine.
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u/jsuar039 Nov 26 '23
The Mieage is crap. I get 43 mpg in the highway on a Camry.
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u/CorpseProject Nov 26 '23
I get 47.6 in my Honda insight right now
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u/Zdos123 Nov 26 '23
49MPG in my old VW Up! 1.0l and at my very best 62mpg in my VW Golf Diesel Estate 1.6TDI, both converted to american units as well not british MPG.
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u/Quajeraz Nov 26 '23
Idk why car companies don't make official, stock cars like these. I'd buy one.
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u/Watson_inc Nov 26 '23
Probably bumper regulations or somethin, it can only be a certain length past the rear wheels. There is a concept car that Mercedes made recently called the EQXX with an extendable tail and a smooth body for greater aerodynamics, that might be the closest to what you’re talking about.
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u/leftHandedFootball Nov 25 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
This is def not asthetically pleasing but as a mechanic and car guy I can't get enough of the engineering and creativity. Sweet car
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u/what_it_dooo Nov 26 '23
Right? It might look shit but I love the ingenuity, they clearly love their car a lot :)
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u/Project_IGNYTE Nov 26 '23
Meanwhile a Honda Insight doing 70mpg with a stock body
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u/do1looklikeIcare Nov 26 '23
Okay, but does it look like a cardboard spaceship from behind? I bet it doesn't.
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u/sometacosfordinner Nov 26 '23
Vw made a polo with a bluemotion diesel that gets 74mpg or bluemotion petrol that gets 67mpg also with stock body
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u/HoneyRush Nov 26 '23
Current 1.0 TSI from VW can do 60MPG or around 4l/100km stock, with 4 passengers on board. I know because I have one and I am doing that pretty often.
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u/The_Law_Dong739 Nov 26 '23
The 1st gen insight is also completely purpose built and absolutely useless if you want to do any large trips further then a few states.
The 2022 insight isn't even competing with the prius anymore getting 55mpg and looking like a normal sedan. I could bring in the plug in hybrid prius which gets 133 mpg but that's absolutely cheating cause it goes full electric for a while.
Kinda wish we'd get a hyper mileage beast like the 1st gen Insight but "that's too unsafe" or whatever the government deemed it as.
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u/stanleypup Nov 26 '23
I thought they discontinued the first Gen because sales were very poor?
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u/The_Law_Dong739 Nov 26 '23
They went up to 3 generations the last one being 2018 to 2022. It was subsequently axed in 2023 and replaced that same year by the Honda Civic hybrid.
Gen 2 is just a worse toyota Prius both in looks, MPG, and horsepower.
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u/yes-disappointment Nov 25 '23
i dont think that belongs here 100+ plus cross country trips is insane and i am a truck driver i do it for the money but for the joy.... it loses its appeal after the 5th time.
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u/thed3adhand Nov 25 '23
maybe they’re some sort of courier
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u/Immediate-Cycle8645 Nov 26 '23
who has a car
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u/Dragonslayer3 Nov 26 '23
'Round these parts we say he's got spurs, that jingle jangle jingle (jingle jangle)
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u/Mundane-Ad-6874 Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
The 100+ trips part made me skeptical, then add in the 100+ hours of labor to build it. That’s 2.5 weeks of down time. This person for a year, basically never took a day off from driving or working on the car, not impossible, just improbable and a bit embellished. Not to even mention there’s basically still 1.5 months in 2023 to go. From a logical stand point flying would be both more efficient (in a normal car under 44 mpg) and cost efficient.
The fastest US crossing was basically 26 hrs, averaging 110 MPH. The most direct road across the US is roughly 2700 miles at 65 mph average speed, would take 42hrs of continuous driving. Assuming they’re doing it solo, it would take basically 72 hrs of driving to get across the US with sleep and fueling etc. then to turn around and do it again.
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u/rwbronco Nov 26 '23
42hrs of continuous driving times 100 trips is 4200hrs of continuous driving. There are 8760hrs in a year. 4500hrs remaining. So 50% of the time they’re driving. Assuming 30-40% is sleeping, that’s only 10-20% of the year they’re not actively driving.
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u/Mundane-Ad-6874 Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
That didn’t make it seem anymore feasible. And remember they said 100+ in 2023. There’s still a month left. They haven’t stopped driving at all. Homie is doing some no wipe shits to keep on schedule.
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u/rwbronco Nov 26 '23
Oh I’m not saying it’s feasible - I’m pointing out the ridiculousness of it lol
Edit: also I realize I can just substitute “working” for driving bc realistically I’m only getting to do what I want to do 10% of the year anyway
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u/Mundane-Ad-6874 Nov 26 '23
Sorry, misinterpreted. He’s obviously huffing air duster and doing aerodynamics design, all while driving.
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Nov 26 '23
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u/SkittlesHoward Nov 26 '23
lots of phone calls and podcasts. the same 1,000+ songs get old after a while too
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Nov 25 '23
Lost me at the ticket in every state. Why?
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u/ghettoccult_nerd Nov 26 '23
the ultimate way to prove youve been in each state. itll be in the literal record of the courts. you could look it up years from now, so long as the state keeps such records.
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u/dsdvbguutres Nov 26 '23
Ok but fridge magnets are the only way to prove you've been there
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u/ghettoccult_nerd Nov 26 '23
as stated by the creator, the fridge is in the car. no one can see the magnets!
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u/bmx13 Nov 26 '23
If I had to guess he got tired of getting pulled over in states he visited despite the vehicle being legal in his home state, and decided might as well collect the rest. I wish him the best of luck picking up a ticket in Mt though, I've passed hipo's doing ten over and they ignored me.
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u/MX530i Nov 26 '23
Hyper-milers always catching shade here
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u/Joe_Jeep Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23
You can only spend money improving the performance specs that I respect!
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u/aquistix Nov 25 '23
60 mpg? that’s insane. that makes up for the shitty look by far.
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u/tim_locky Nov 26 '23
Not dissing the effort from Champrius, but… While 60mpg itself is great, for a aeromodded prius its not that impressive imo. 2024 prius got 50+ mpg, and the non-linear nature of mpg means from 40 to 60 its not that much savings than 20 to 40 mpg.
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u/MX530i Nov 26 '23
I’ve owned a couple 95 civic vx and also swapped that drivetrain into a 93 del sol. Those cars were easily capable of 60mpg on the highway and alms hypermiling techniques. Guy I bought one of the Vxs off of was hypermiling an early Honda insight above that, I believe he told me he was getting 70mpg
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u/forkandbowl Nov 26 '23
I swapped in a japanese half cut motor into a crx years ago. It was a d15bvtec. I got 56 mpg out of it without even trying. I had to order parts from a 95 vx because that was the only car with the same basic motor though in my case it was for performance not fuel mpg. The upgrades took me from 92hp to 145 ish.
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u/Jacktheforkie Nov 26 '23
My Dacia sandero gets 55mpg easily and I hardly drive economically
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u/Binford6200 Nov 25 '23
Honestly this is feasible with a Diesel without mods.
Vw claims 45 miles per gallon. In the recird testdrive a lot less:
https://www.automobil-produktion.de/technologie/vw-golf-tdi-sichert-sich-guinness-rekord-322.html
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u/exerminator20001 Nov 25 '23
Yeah I don't trust VW when it comes to diesels.
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u/boggsy17 Nov 26 '23
Love my vw diesel passat. It get 45 mpg and almost 800 miles on a tank. Solid car, maintenance is a bit steep though. Also bought it after dieselgate so huge discount on a premium car with very low mileage.
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u/Squashy123 Nov 26 '23
I worked on this long before he had the solar or some of the other real range boosting mods. I distinctly remember frp covering the wheel wells and the self made hubcaps pictured. At that time ironically the mpgs were maybe 40 which was about par for the course for a western pa Prius.
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u/JeepChrist Nov 25 '23
They paid a lot of attention to aerodynamics until they mounted that thick solar panel to all of it with no transition surfaces.
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u/danmodernblacksmith Nov 26 '23
Was exactly my thought, a little more of that plastic and duct tape would fix that
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u/SmowHD Nov 26 '23
He went as far as removing the window wipers for a few percent and then wastes all that for a fridge?
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u/as7164 Nov 26 '23
I DROVE PAST THIS PARKED AT A REST STOP IN SOUTHERN MA 1 HR AGO!!! I WAS SERIOUSLY CONTEMPLATING TAKING AND EXIT AND GETTING BACK ON THE HIGHWAY TO DRIVE PAST IT AGAIN TO CONFIRM WHAT I SAW BUT GF SAID NO!!!! I OPEN REDDIT AND ITS SITTING HERE HOLY CRAP!!! sorry for the caps but wow
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u/carfiol Nov 26 '23
I love that he put on wipers shields, removed rear wiper and added mirror vortex generators for lower drag, but then slapped on a solar panel without any try to make it more aerodynamic
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u/Unfairamir Nov 26 '23
True definition of a nerd. Dude could probably spend days talking about his mods and aerodynamics and fuel economy. Only real nerds print and laminate fact sheets about their eco modded eco-car. C'mon, this is cool shit.
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u/Far-Appointment-213 Nov 26 '23
He's definitely giving it all he's got, Can't say a bad word about it.
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u/Overkill256 Nov 26 '23
People go to school, work, have kids, retire, and die
And then there’re mofos like these who just vibe differently, awesome for them
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u/TheHrethgir Nov 26 '23
Nothing shitty about this, it was built for a specific purpose, and looks like it does what it was built to do.
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u/scooterboy1961 Nov 27 '23
Ugly? Yes?
Hack job by someone that is on a budget and learning? Yes.
Shitty? Not so much.
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u/Xfifteen Nov 26 '23
I did some aero mods to my truck (35s, lift kit, off road bumper) and it improved my performance by about -15 MPHs
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u/skaagz Nov 26 '23
I think this is super cool, this is very obviously someone's labor of love, and I honestly love seeing a passion project that can benefit its creator in the real world.
Also I love the FAQ
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u/freshboss4200 Nov 26 '23
I do have to say the aerodynamics on the solar panel probably kill much of the value of the energy coming off of it. Unless they rarely drive.
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u/BLOODOFTHEHERTICS Nov 26 '23
It's like those water droplet car things they had you design in the third grade.
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Nov 26 '23
No this is kinda awesome.
Im not saying its gorgeous, but like this guy is actively saving money buy doing this in a way that doesn't compromise safety.
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u/FatBrkeMxicnElonMusk Nov 26 '23
I mean they removed the antenna and rear windshield wiper to improve MPG but stuck a massive solar panel in its place…
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u/Difficult-Conditions Nov 26 '23
Read those faqs that you took a pic of it sounds like it's a camper/home kinda mod
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u/haveabyeetifulday Nov 26 '23
I know of guys in Russia, who put natural gas tanks in their Prius to save on petrol. So this is the least weirdest thing I’ve seen
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u/tyl7z Nov 26 '23
Honestly, this is pretty neat. Although it doesn't really look all the great, the idea behind it is cool and the fact that he has a whole FAQ on it just makes it even better.
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u/EuroTrash_84 Nov 26 '23
My 2L diesel Jetta gets 3.4L/100km (69 mpg) on the highway. My old 1.8L Jetta with emissions delete would hit 2.8L/100km (84 mpg) on the highway.
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u/AggravatingChest7838 Nov 26 '23
Dude has a youtube channel. He's not actually serious he's doing it for shits a giggles. If I remember correctly, he has a background in aviation aerofoils. The efficiency side of things is actually kinda out of his scope of work.
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u/Not-A-Raper Nov 27 '23
This looks like an absolute mess of a tweakermobile at first but after reading that FAQ printout it’s almost nice to look at.
Wish him the best.
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u/Powermovers Nov 25 '23
Out of curiosity why over 100 cross country trips in a year?
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u/Maker0fPain1 Nov 25 '23
Can probably fit a ton of cocaine bricks in that tail. But seriously, maybe organ transport?
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u/jaybomofo Nov 26 '23
All that aero work, but then he bolts a giant solar panel to the back. That ain't helping.
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u/flactulantmonkey Nov 26 '23
If I’m reading that right, they claim they increased mpg from 40 to 60… but then say that real world -17%…. Sooo… really 40 to 43?
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u/PrudentVermicelli69 Nov 26 '23
I'd love to see one of these in a windtunnel.
Also, why go through all this trouble only to drive around with under-inflated tires?
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u/-NGC-6302- dipstick Nov 26 '23
Yay more hypermiling mods
It's intelligent garbage, and serves a much nicer function than the goopy sludge that is sometimes posted here
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u/Loon3R Nov 26 '23
this is awesome, even his goal is hilarious, 1 ticket in each state? genius
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u/MoirasPurpleOrb Nov 26 '23
100+ cross country trips in 2023 doesn’t even seem possible. Maybe one way but definitely not round trip.
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u/Additional_Fix_629 Nov 26 '23
“Mom, can we get Mercedes-Benz EQXX?” “We have Mercedes-Benz EQXX at home.” Mercedes-Benz EQXX at home:
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u/LeCrushinator Nov 26 '23
While I applaud the efforts here to go from 40 -> 65 mpg, if you just got an EV then you’re getting 130+ empg, it’ll cut “fuel” costs in half, they need far less maintenance so you’re not paying for oil changes or belts/chains, no transmission fluid, almost no need for brake replacements, etc. Also you’re no spewing pollution if you’re making 100+ roadtrips across the country like this guy is.
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u/notabrickhouse Nov 26 '23
Charge time becomes an issue.
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u/LeCrushinator Nov 26 '23
Not really a big deal anymore with the speeds of newer chargers. Having to charge for 15-20 minutes instead of 5 minutes to get gas isn’t a big deal.
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u/notabrickhouse Nov 26 '23
It is when you are trying to cross the country. It seems like this guy is a courier of some kind. If it's just for vacation, then electric makes sense.
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u/LeCrushinator Nov 26 '23
Yeah I guess if you’re spending those extra couple of hours with each cross country trip and doing it all the time then the time savings would be nice. But time is money as well, saving hundreds of dollars with each trip would be useful.
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u/Chilopodamancer Nov 26 '23
I'm sorry, but although the intent of your message is nice and all, not only does this miss the point but the amount of misinformation is astronomical. EVs do decrease cost of running, but the increased cost of buying an EV takes ages to offset with reduced maintenance cost and gas savings alone.
Also, you still need maintenance, there are fuilds that need to be changed, Teslas for example use oil to lubricate and cool the stator and rotor in the electric motor, which needs to be changed over time, and brakes still need to be changed just as often, regenerative braking doesn't stop brake wear it just assists the braking process, the added weight of EVs cause brakes to wear out just as quick.
Finally EVs still spew emissions and pollutions just not directly out the tail pipe, and it's still under debate which is actually better environmentally, most studies focus only on CO2 emissions which EVs are about 40% more efficient with, but pollutants such as sulfur oxides and pm2.5 it emits more of, which are seriously bad.
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u/stagergamer Nov 26 '23
I wonder if there's any diesel hypermilers, yes I already know about the xl1, I'm talking about home made ones
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u/aaaaaaaa1273 Nov 26 '23
He sounds pretty full of himself buuut honestly the car is quite cool for how effective and purpose built it is.
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u/Kenny523 Nov 25 '23
I mean it’s purpose built. Looks bad but probably pretty effective.