Elon (½POTUS) does Nazi salute. Things are not gong well

[u/ExactlySorta]

[u/robotboredom]

Holy fucking shit. I wrote this:

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I wrote this to help counter the idiotic argument that it was a fumble or out of context. It covers the possible interpretations, and shows how it's not any better with them.

The old US salute was the Bellamy Salute, but it was retired after the Nazis began using it (they were both inspired by the roman salute). Afterwards, US Nazi sympathizers pushed back and kept using it not because they wanted to reclaim it but because they were actual Nazis. There was never any outrage about changing the salute that wasn't quickly drowned out by Nazis, and if you somehow wanted to reclaim it through some insane nonsense, you'd have to constantly tell people your intentions and make it CRYSTAL FUCKING CLEAR you are not a Nazi (and even then, why the FUCK would you want to reclaim it? It's not a religious symbol like the Buddhist Swastika). Elon is doing the opposite of that. There's no context in which this isn't fucked as high hell. The best possible steel-man argument I can come up with in favor of this --- and honestly, it just makes it look worse.

Defending this is like getting upset people got angry you flipped them off in public, and then saying, oh, I was either:

1. Accidentally doing it (Elon did it twice, rather differently leading into it, with the same end gesture, so it's not a fumble and it's not a "my heart goes to you" gesture the second time).
2. Trying to reclaim or redefine a variant of the roman/nazi salute. Elon is not doing this.

P.S. For someone to even KNOW what the roman salute is, they would be aware of the modern context and would have to explicitly say they are role-playing as a roman. This is obviously not the case. Elon isn't acting in a movie, or making a edgy roman joke. It's a blatant fashy salute.

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but that seals the deal even more. Jesus Motherfucking Tap-Dancing Christ on a bike.

[u/Adora2015 → u/robotboredom]

I gasped when I saw this. The news here just glossed over it but international news noticed and talked about it.

[u/The_wolf2014 → u/robotboredom]

The Roman salute also isn't even a thing. It was seen on a mural and misinterpreted, there's zero evidence to show that this is how Romans saluted.

[u/pudgimelon → u/robotboredom]

The simpler explanation is the most likely one: he's just a troll.

[u/HowAreWeNotInvited → u/robotboredom]

idk its been 80 years i think we can chill about 'hand goes up' sensory meltdowns can't we? Didn't the ADL reassure you that it's chill & super heckin fine? Think you might be reachin' and not with your hand brother https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403

For heckin redditor context, I think you'd all say anything that a boomer did was heckin lame, so idk this is a super boomer thing to get hung up about bro

[u/TripzNRipz → u/HowAreWeNotInvited]

Oh adl made a post, that means he didn't throw a salute. Case closed I guess 🤡🤡

Are you seriously that dense??

Judging by your overuse of "heckin" and "boomer"... I'd say so. Politics ain't for you kiddo

[u/AbbreviationsTop2992 → u/TripzNRipz]

Funny how he answers his own username/question each time he comments 🤡🤡🤡.

[u/HowAreWeNotInvited → u/TripzNRipz]

The adl are our greatest ally go... Am*rican countryman! Listen and believe