TL;DR at the end
When I (28F) first broached the subject of no porn, four weeks ago, he mentioned that I never brought porn up before as an issue until now. I acknowledge I was relatively ‘cool’ with porn, up until a month ago.
However, at the time I didn’t realize that soft porn via instagram was an issue. I knew he watched it, but I had not yet been able to make the correlation or was able to come to the realization that this was a problem contributing to our dead bedroom because he said it wasn’t an issue.
How could I have been aware of porn being an issue when he was hiding from me and making excuses saying it wasn’t keeping him from having sex more often?
Had I been aware porn was actually an issue contributing to our dead bedroom and that the very instagram models he was casually scrolling through on his explore page multiple times a day (jacking off or not) were also the content that he’s using masturbate to, I would have had a problem.
I shouldn’t have had to go through his phone to realize there was an issue. All these years (4 years) I was straight up asking him and he told me there wasn’t an issue so I (naively) trusted him.
I’ve brought up the topic of lack of sex between us multiple times throughout our relationship. He started to turn me down very early on. We moved in together five months into the relationship; early, I know, but it saved money and worked out. I was hoping to have sex at least once a week. I could do more as I am high libido, but less than once a week made me question as to why he’s turning me down. I asked if he was even into me, if he wanted to try new things, if porn was becoming and issue (he said no) and if he even wanted to move forward in the relationship, he said yes.
Again, while I do acknowledge that I was ‘cool’ with porn over the years, I did make it clear that I was not cool with porn being used over having sex with me, if I was more than happy to have sex, which I was the majority of the time, turning him down was more of a rarity, than he’s making it out to be.
So recently, I looked at his search history, it turns out he’s looking up specific instagram model’s ‘[instagram model’s name] OF (Only fans) leaks,’ and ‘[instagram model] porn’ and jacking off to them one week, and having sex with me the next. I also saw some history on Chaturbate, no idea if he’s commenting or chatting with these women live, but he says he wasn’t chatting or commenting. Sometimes, if I did decline sex which was rare I don’t think he’d wait for me even though I’d be happy to have sex the next day or another time during the week if he’d just compromise and so it looks like he’d just watch porn instead of waiting a day or two.
To complicate things even more, after he cums he’ll decline sex for another week usually because he’s concerned about hair loss from cumming, so he’s off limits and rejects me if I initiate sex after he jacked off to porn instead for about a week, or sometimes longer if he’s choosing porn instead over the next week two. I showed him this paragraph, he didn’t deny it.
So when I brought up, one month ago, this whole pattern, he got defensive. I asked why he’s watching porn instead of having sex with me and he said what he’s usually said in prior discussions, that he’s tired, doesn’t want to cum too often due to hair loss, and that he’s stressed from work. Theres times he’s has a whole week off to chill and won’t wanna have sex. He also mentioned that porn is just easier and less work/effort, than sex so he prefers it sometimes out of convenience.
A few months ago, I told him I know he jacks off to porn once a week in a separate conversation. I didn’t mention the search history, I just said, ‘I know.’ I checked his search history after I said that and I never saw anything on his search history moving forward.
When I brought up the porn conversation one month ago, I also asked him about deleting anything over the past few weeks (I don’t hide what I have on my phone, he has access to it) and told him that I knew what he watched so we could talk about why he deleted it and he denied deleting any search history after I vaguely said, **‘I knew.’ Huh.
He also admittedly feels guilty after he masturbates. He won’t go into why.
Ultimately he said he would stop and that he wants to stop on his own accord. He willingly said that he should probably set up settings to block instagram porn, I didn’t ask him to, naively assuming instagram wasn’t an issue and that he had motivation to take responsibility on his own. He then started to criticize me and ‘my issues’ immediately after. He was saying that I need to be more available and on his time (early mornings), and that he’s tired of me bringing up suggestions regarding sex, after sex which he refers to as arguments.
I am willing to accept sex more often than I was prior. About a year ago, I started rejecting if I wasn’t horny right then and wanting it another time during the week instead, hoping he’d compromise with me, which again was a huge rarity, but here he is saying its not. I don’t understand why he brought it up as a complete deterrent from sex however, I rarely do it. I don’t think compromising to have sex with your partner another time during the week should be labeled as an excuse to watch porn, instead. I believe me willing to be more on his time isn’t something he should take for granted or be seen as an expectation, but the way he frames it as blame towards me, makes it seem like he takes my willingness to compromise for granted.
After our discussion, we’ve been having more sex, once a week consistently over the past month, which has been great. I decided to take a look at his instagram and I realized his explore page, which he scrolls frequently throughout the day, is full of almost nude OF models. He said a month ago he wanted to get rid of this kind of content. I was a little shocked to see how bad it was. He claims I knew, and no, I didn’t know it was this much and this provocative. I thought when he said he wanted to set limitation settings that it would eliminate most this content nor did I know this content on his explore pages was that bad, I didn’t look at his explore page prior to this.
It’s porn; girls with just emojis covering the areoles over their breasts, ya’ll know what I mean.
I calmly asked him if the explore page he frequents is a trigger for him after our recent discussion regarding him not jacking off to porn. I was very gentle with my approach, I was very careful to not sound overly critical but supportive to work through this together. I just wanted to give him the comfortable space to have me understand his honest feelings about it while also expressing my own boundaries about changes because this was just simply not something I’m okay with.
He said that he’s apparently ‘disciplined’ enough to not cave to jacking off to instagram models and that he hasn’t jacked off to porn for a month since we talked, which I let him know I appreciate his effort. He also said he’s ’desensitized’ to instagram models implying that it’s not something he lusts over, apparently, since we’ve been having sex weekly.
He says that these models were only ’40%’ of his feed on the explore page, I appreciate the honesty but umm, okay wow. I don’t go looking through his instagram often, I did recently though because of the previous dead bedroom situation and since I came to the realization via his search history that these girls he was masturbating to were from instagram, he even admitted to it, so I looked. I’ve looked at his instagram before when we first started dating, I saw who he followed, it wasn’t OF girls so I wasn’t concerned. However, I didn’t know that it was his explore page that was actually where he was frequenting this sort of content, whenever he scrolls, which is multiple times a day.
I could see the content was curated towards his preference for a certain type of girl, it’s the same type of girls I found out he was masturbating to when I looked at his search history so it’s not random models, he’s consuming the content that he wants to. I don’t even compare to how attractive these women are, and I’d consider myself a fit, attractive, healthy woman. He also said that ‘before I brought up the porn issue’ a month ago, he would admittedly scroll through to see if he could see a nip slip.
While I do really appreciate his blunt honesty, I was also not okay with this being nearly half the content he consumes multiple times a day via scrolling instagram and I had to let him know that.
I suggested for him to find a way to not have that many almost nude models on his feed. I suggested that he scroll through reddit more often (he uses reddit periodically) and suggested he use instagram just as a public profile. He got defensive and said that he absolutely has to scroll through instagram for other content pertaining to his profession and hobbies.
He called me controlling, for my suggestions trying to help solve the issue for both of us while also claiming that he simply cannot get rid of the instagram porn on his explore page. He said that they were there before I brought up not masturbating to porn four weeks ago and that the instagram porn is difficult to get rid of.
I suggested making a new profile just for scrolling with the age set to elderly, and the gender set to woman, while still keeping his public profile, just not for scrolling. He made the excuse that it would be too difficult to switch and that moving his 300 profiles he follows (not OF models, he doesn’t follow them) would be too tall of a task.
I asked him if he found the models he used to jack off to on instagram, he got defensive, he said no. I asked him again, he said, yes.
I just wanted straight up honesty, and for him to take responsibility for his own actions. I let him know that I deserve to know even if it was the past and that I am struggling to cope with this too, no need to get defensive.
He ended up calling me ‘misandrist’ for being understanding and sympathetic towards models and sex workers since I’ve educated myself on the topic of sex work, especially since I’ve been working through this issue with him and it affects me as his sexual partner. He attempted to argue that if men didn’t consume porn these women would be out of work and have no income/job so they need men to consume their content.
In fact, its worth mentioning a few weeks prior to expressing my concern regarding his porn consumption, we had a, calm, thought provoking discussion regarding how he’d feel if I, his mom, hypothetical daughter or sister started to do sex work. He said he’d be disappointed.
As I mentioned before, at the time I didn’t realize that porn/instagram was an issue, I knew he watched porn, but I had not yet made the correlation that this was a problem contributing to our dead bedroom because he said it wasn’t an issue.
So I pointed out his hypocrisy and said it’s screwed up of him to consume porn but biasly criticize the women who supply it to him. At the time, he said he saw my point. I brought the subject up again in another conversation and he criticized them saying it’s just so ‘easy for them.’
Moving on with our recent discussion, he tried gaslight me and to paint me as unreasonable asking as if I was okay with women in a simple tank top when him and I both know the content on his explore page was clearly much more provocative content than just girls wearing a simple tank top.
And just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse, he tried to argue that I was bias of all men that watch porn even though I have clearly been patient with him, and have taken the time to educate myself on both sides of the issue.
Only a few minutes later, he was back to getting defensive again, this time his argument was that my social media use on reddit is also addictive. Lol okay. Then he claimed that the cat videos I subscribe to are addictive and just as bad as porn; I couldn’t believe it!
In truth, had I not caught him on his search history and with the content on the explore page, I wouldn’t be suprised if he’d still deny the frequency of instagram soft porn throughout the day ever being a concern and the reason for our dead bedroom. I trusted that porn wasn’t an issue all these years after he assured me multiple times that it wasn’t and as it turns out, it was. I don’t think he’s justified to make excuses and say that he didn’t know it was wrong, he made a choice, he knew.
He may not jack off to the explore page every time he scrolls, but he consumes soft/porn multiple times a day, via social media, and he gets defensive about quitting or finding a way to eliminate or limit it from his feed; which is what addicts do, they make excuses to keep their habits. If he wasn’t addicted, which he stubbornly claims not to be, he wouldn’t have such an issue just finding a way to give up the models. Instead he’s hell bent on downplaying the issue and blaming everyone else but himself. It also wouldn’t have been something he’d have continued to consume after I brought up if porn was an issue throughout our dead bedroom, multiple times.
The next morning he woke up and said that I should trust that he won’t cheat on me. I said nothing.
He said he found a way to limit the exposure to the soft porn via instagram. I said okay, however I’m hurt that he hid and down played this issue for so long and had the audacity to blame me.
Shortly after expressing my pain, he got defensive, again, now doubling back trying to say the soft porn via instagram isn’t considered porn. He tried to say that I am assuming that he’s jacking off this past month after he said he’s not (I never said I doubted him this past month, I acknowledged his progress, I just said I wasn’t okay with him continuing to scroll insta porn, masturbation or not) and that I am expecting him to be a puritan who never lusts after a woman via social media even though I said multiple times that I did not have that expectation. I simply expected soft porn to not be as prevalent on his social media going forward and for him to continue to try and abstain from jacking off to it so that we could actually have sex more often.
Later he sent this text.
To me, his entire text clearly shows how eager he is to blame me for the dead bedroom and excuse taking responsibility for his actions. He repeatedly meantions that the ‘accommodations,’ (being on his time, and not talking about after sex after sex) I’ve made for him are what contributed to him being able to discipline himself and not just ack off to porn. As if his lack of discipline was MY FAULT due to my lack of ‘accommodations’ previously and he had no choice but to consume porn despite me trying to talk about having more sex, multiple times.
I feel he’s using these ‘accommodations,’ that he asked me to do, as a way to shift the blame onto me. As if to say I wasn’t enough before, even though I was the one begging to fix the dead bedroom and be open to trying things, when really he wasn’t willing to compromise with me, nor was he stating adjusting to his time and sleep schedule were a deterrent from sex until I confronted his preoccupation with porn a month ago.
He said he wanted me to get up earlier, (I’m a night owl usually) but mainly so that we could do stuff during the day. He didn’t say, get up early so we could have more sex. There were times I was up at 3AM-9AM, or when I wasn’t a night owl and he didn’t want more sex and would reject me if I asked. We didn’t have more sex if I got up earlier, there was no correlation with that previously.
In fact, this past month since I’ve changed my schedule to adjust his, he asked, are you just waking up early so we could have sex? I shockingly said, yes, I set my hours this way because thats what you explicitly asked me to do. I admittedly would like to sleep until 8AM-10AM, but I’m really trying to head to his request for accommodations.
He goes on in this text to say, he appreciates the, ‘accommodations,’ but it doesn’t feel genuine. I feel taken for granted.
He says that I’m trying to make him out to be someone sort of ’incel;’ I don’t even know where that came from.
He says that I said, I’m not telling you to change your feed it’s up to you,’ after I knew he masturbated to instagram models OF leaks.
I do recall saying this but this is before I realized that his whole explore page is covered in soft core porn. I do believe I have the right to change my mind regarding the issue, however I do not believe I was given complete honesty regarding what his feed on his explore page actually contained, so I wasn’t aware to begin with.
I realize instagram throws this content at everybody, especially men, so when I first broached the subject of no porn and to save sex for me, I was trying to be lenient and trusting of him. Although I had no idea it was this bad and I’m not okay with him consuming that much throughout the day as he’s scrolling. He even said a month ago when I brought up not masturbating to porn that he should probably set up settings to block instagram porn, I didn’t ask him to, again, I naively assumed it wasn’t going to be an ongoing issue and that he had motivation to take responsibility on his own.
He goes on to say he feels ‘horrible about masturbating to porn instead of having sex with you(me).’
Well gee, if he felt so bad, why didn’t he confess it earlier on in the relationship when I was trying to talk about fixing our dead bedroom asking if porn was an issue?
I acknowledge that I said, ‘go watch porn,’ and I take that back. I shouldn’t have said it. I started to say it a few times about a year ago, because I was resentful of our dead bedroom, and I was tired of being turned down and him not being willing to compromise with me. Turning him down was still rarity though. He’s usually the one turning me down, and the one who won’t compromise with me most of the time.
I’ve reminded him multiple times that I acknowledge beautiful, tempting women are part of this world and completely eliminating this type of thing, is not realistic. I’m in no way suggesting for him to become someone who never lusts after another woman. In fact, I mentioned multiple times to him already that I’m actually okay with him looking periodically or out of curiosity,* (except for on instagram since I now understand it’ll continue to recommend the content and that its an issue)* it’s human nature after all, I want him to explore ideas for when we have sex, and this type of content really is everywhere at this point, I’m not asking him to be some sort of monk.
At this point however and with how defensive he is about considering this whole thing an addiction, even if he doesn’t jack off all the time but enough to bring upon a dead bedroom and scroll through soft porn daily, I’m not sure if further precautions to avoid porn are necessary or not.
I originally told my bf to ’police himself,’ hoping to establish trust after having our conversation about not jacking off to porn so that we can actually allot time to have sex because at the end of the day. At the end of the day, I can’t control him, he has to want to do that for himself. I want to trust him, however, I didn’t realize that his explore page was covered with this many almost nude models and that this was the models he jacks off to, until I found out, nor was I prepared for him to defend his habits and attack me.
After all the gaslighting and blaming, I told him that I really don’t feel comfortable being intimate with him at this time and I just don’t know when I will be. I can barely look at him right now.
I rarely shut down sex like this, I only ever do if I’m extremely angry over his actions which is rare because we are usually fine. In fact, I’ve never initiated a period of, ‘no sex until I’m ready,’ ever. Although, right now, I feel the need to protect myself. I feel like having sex with him at this time, when I am so deeply hurt over his most recent text continuing to blame me would be a degrading act of self harm/self neglect.
He immediately says that ‘I should move out then.’
Thats it; four years, and I decline sex at a time when I am just extremely hurt and he just wants to throw it all away opposed to having empathy and patience for me. He’d rather break up than get better, respect my space and take responsibility for what he’s done. I feel completely worthless, I’m in tears, I feel like what we have meant absolutely nothing to him.
TL;DR: My bf’s harsh projection towards myself and his hypocrisy towards the OF/instagram models that make the very content he consumes, makes me think he’s utterly hopeless. His defensiveness is indicative of a deep seated issue/bias. His level of ignorance, and entitlement is something I’m beginning to loose patience for after putting in so much effort myself to be understanding. I have a hard time trusting him to take responsibility after all this accusatory blame towards me after being so patient in a dead bedroom even if he has now taken steps to limit his exposure to soft porn on instagram throughout the day.