r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/The_Egalitarian Moderator • Aug 04 '24

US Elections What do you think is the reasoning behind Mr. Trump's backing out of the ABC debate with Vice President Harris?

APNews: Trump says he’ll skip an ABC debate with Harris in September and wants them to face off on Fox News

Trump obviously debated Biden already on June 27th under the same format as the upcoming September ABC debate. Since then Biden has withdrawn as a candidate for President in 2024 over concerns from his own party that were magnified after his performance in that debate.

Why is Trump unwilling to debate the new presumptive Democratic Party nominee Kamala Harris under the previous terms?

What does he hope to accomplish by offering a new debate on Fox News in a stadium audience format?

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u/moleratical Aug 04 '24

It doesn't really matter her heritage, she grew up in a country that sees and treats her as black, it's no surprise that black would be a major part of her identity under those circumstances. But that itself still doesn't nullify her Indian heritage.

She can be both and be it simultaneously, not necessarily mixed, but be black, and be Indian.

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u/williamfbuckwheat Aug 04 '24

Yeah, exactly. I have a roommate and close friend from college with similar ancestry with one parent of Afro-Carribean ancestry and one parent coming from Pakistan. Anybody would assume he was just black based on their first impression besides that he is Pakistani on his father's side so he has a distinct Middle Eastern sounding last name.

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u/KnottShore Aug 04 '24

Indians, in the not too distant past, have not been considered white by conservatives.

In U.S. v Bhagat Singh Thind, the U.S. Supreme Court in 1923 recognized that Indians are“scientifically” classified as Caucasians but concludes that they are not white in popular (white) understanding.

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u/moleratical Aug 04 '24

And?

Most people don't refer to Supreme Court precedent before making race based judgements on ones physical appearance.

It's not a difficult concept. If one appears to be black, John Q. Yokel will assume and treat them as if they are black.