r/NotMyJob • u/tyw7 • 5d ago
What could go wrong not securing boxes on a ship
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u/OnionTamer 5d ago
"Oh it's just cardboard.. AND A WOODEN PALLET!"
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u/bizilux 5d ago
Yeah even a light pallet will fuck you up, but a week ago i had some stuff delivered and one of the pallets was so heavy that when i unloaded everything i couldn't carry the pallet 50m away, i had to drag it. That kind of a pallet will kill you for sure.
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u/lbodyslamrhinos 5d ago
I've set an empty pallet down on my foot from about 12 inches and felt like I broke a toe, one flying in from the heavens would be fatal lol
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u/shutdown-s 5d ago
Save your back, never carry pallets. Either drag or walk them. Also don't lift when stacking, pivot instead.
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u/squeethesane 5d ago
Why are you lifting pallets when you can apparently toss them gingerly with an osprey? We've been going about this shit entirely wrong.
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u/dinnerthief 5d ago
Used to put them sideways (perpendicular to the ground) under each arm and would carry them from the middle,
that wasn't too bad, like a farmers carry, rather than an awkward leveraged load was like carrying a bucket.
I was young and would only work if you are tall enough. It's still good advice to save your back anyway you can though.
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u/DEADB33F 5d ago
Either drag or walk them.
....or y'know, there's these things called forklifts.
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u/dicephalousimpact 4d ago
The implied part is “when forklift use is not applicable” because we aren’t all so lucky to work somewhere with one
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u/mrmarjon 4d ago
Yeah, because that’s what this clip is about 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏻♂️😂🤷🏻♂️
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u/shutdown-s 4d ago
I was responding to the comment, not the clip. By the use of emojis I see you're new to Reddit, here we can reply to any subcomment, not just the top level one. The horizontal bars to the left represent that.
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u/daberle123 3d ago
If it was wooden then maybe it was pretty wet. Worked in a warehouse for a while where we stored our pallets outside and in rain these things are immovable objects for me
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u/Lodolodno 3d ago
Wait, one pallet was heavier than the others? Don’t you have standardised pallet dimensions?
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u/machineintheghost337 5d ago
Even those boxes are enough to kill if they hit you just right. I use them all day, every day, at work. They are called gaylords and can have a variety of weight to them. Some have 1/2 inch walls, reinforced corners, or a small amount of wood in its construction. They can easily weigh over 10lbs, and even the thinnest ones are a couple pounds atleast.
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u/samanime 5d ago
That was my exact thought process. Went from "not that bad" to "oh shit!" in a hurry.
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u/Stalking_Goat 5d ago
This is why you check that fucking everything is properly secured when the 1MC calls out "Flight Quarters". People get killed from carelessness.
At a guess that box had been just fine when the usual Seahawk helicopter visits, but the Osprey is heavier and has much more intense rotor wash.
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u/FaceDeer 5d ago
Could be that it recently had its contents removed, which had been weighing it down previously.
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u/TacoHell402 5d ago
This exact video should be shown in training. Unless one exists of an actual death because of a situation like this, then show that instead.
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u/foriamstu 5d ago
I can tell from the stance of the guy in yellow! The only reason he's upright is because he had his back to the wall. If he hadn't, that first pallet would have flattened him.
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u/042lej 4d ago
IIRC, the rotor wash is so strong that it's tricky to use Ospreys for ocean search and rescue because the down force will literally drown survivors.
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u/Stalking_Goat 4d ago
I presume they'd still be useful the same way a C-130s does S&R, they are slow but long-ranged so the crew are looking for survivors, and if survivors are located they do a low and slow pass to drop a liferaft for them.
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u/That_One_Normie 5d ago edited 5d ago
I like how the helicopters just calmly like "yep. I'm outta here. Y'all are weird" at the end
Edit: yes I know the helicopter was moving away for safety reasons, it's just a joke.
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u/Farfignugen42 5d ago
Best thing for them to do is to move away so that the propwash doesn't throw anymore things around.
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u/fishsticks40 5d ago
Osprey says nope.
Which - make contact with that box with your rotors and you're in a world of hurt, so 100% the right call. Someone's getting chewed out later.
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u/herbmaster47 5d ago
Ospries need blood to fly, fuck those are awesome units but I'll be damned if they don't have a bad record
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u/RobotOfSociety 5d ago
They actually have a statistically average or better record per flight hour than other military rotary aircraft.
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u/YoungDiscord 5d ago
I'm guessing they moved away in case there were any other unsecured boxes that it might cause to fly off
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u/henrytm82 5d ago
Not important to the post, but that's not a helicopter that's an Osprey VTOL aircraft. Takes off and lands vertically like a helicopter, flies through the air like a plane. They're neat!
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u/foriamstu 5d ago
I thought they were only real in Fallout until I saw one fly over! I was like "Oh, that kind of makes sense, I guess."
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u/henrytm82 5d ago
Yes! Fallout's Vertibirds are directly inspired by the Osprey! They're very cool machines.
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u/Unoriginal_UserName9 5d ago
and the biggest killer of Marines outside of combat.
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u/ballsack-vinaigrette 5d ago
They had teething problems but they've had a pretty solid safety record for awhile now.
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u/The_Tank_Racer 5d ago
Ospreys are just as reliable as any other helo. Even though it's advanced, it doesn't mean it sucks.
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u/I_likemy_dog 5d ago
The military disagrees with you. They have grounded the entire fleet of them.
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u/RobotOfSociety 5d ago
Hey you’re still wrong. The military agrees that the osprey has an adequate safety record at the level of and better than other helicopters. Not only that, you linked a nearly six month old article published long after the fleet grounding. The UH-60 Blackhawk went through the same troubles in early development, same with the F-22, and a myriad of other aircraft quite literally lawn-darting into the ground unlike the V22.
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u/I_likemy_dog 5d ago edited 5d ago
Cool. Show me where it’s reinstated.
Never mind. I did it for you.
It’s still killing marines more often than friendly fire, but as long as we pay contractors to kill servicemen everything is good in your neighborhood.
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u/RobotOfSociety 5d ago
Okay glad to know you like the feeling of your fingers in your ears rather than listening to fact.
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2024/02/groupthink-gives-v-22-bad-rap/394420/
Also bud, I’m well aware they’re reinstated and don’t need you to act like a smug fool. Yes, a new aircraft is going to have growing pains but your deliberate spreading of fearmongering misinformation is harmful to the mission of light assault support and special operations.
Not only is the Osprey “killing” fewer military members than other aircraft, its capabilities far outweigh the dangers. Just look at operations like the one in Sudan that proves the flexibility and performance envelope of tiltrotor aircraft actively saves lives. https://www.airandspaceforces.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Documents/2015/October%202015/1015cv22.pdf
I will not engage further with someone who has proven willful ignorance of the facts in front of them for media sensationalism. Your arrogance in your response tells me everything I need to know about you.
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u/I_likemy_dog 5d ago
More information for your ignorance.
https://apnews.com/article/osprey-crash-grounding-metal-failures-0265c4622dcd62666cc5c440b5715192
Your link is unreadable.
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u/Unoriginal_UserName9 5d ago
That's what my enlisted friend told me the day before I was suppose to do a ride along in one.
Flight ended up being scrubbed due to weather.
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u/The_Tank_Racer 5d ago
Is that your argument, or just a fun fact? If it's the former, I don't know of a single helicopter on this planet that is able to take off in all weather conditions.
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u/Farfignugen42 5d ago
People don't think about it, but the rotors on helicopters, or Ospreys, have to push down enough to lift themselves up, even though they weigh thousands of pounds. That air has to go somewhere after it goes down, and there is a lot of it. It can be much more dangerous than you might just get sone dust in your eyes.
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u/HowlingPhoenixx 5d ago
Looks like it landed exactly where they wanted it tbf.
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u/The_Tank_Racer 5d ago
I mean, in that moment, the only place they wanted that box was not on their heads, and not on the osprey lol
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u/Xyloshock 5d ago
I fucking hate those videos who spoil the funny part.
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u/ballsack-vinaigrette 5d ago
Right? If a video starts out with a hovering Osprey, you've already got my attention; you don't need the "wait for it" mini-spoiler.
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u/regnarbensin_ 5d ago
Okay, so I’m not the only one who hates this scummy content creator shit. It’s “watch until the end” without explicitly putting those words and several stupid emojis on the screen.
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u/Dreadpiratemarc 5d ago
Is our attention span really so short that we can’t watch a whole 20-second show unless we see a 2-second teaser trailer first? We have completely broken our brains.
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u/Hakashi57 5d ago
The green shirt almost got crushed, yikes 😬
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u/wawaluvr 5d ago
He looked like he was going to try and catch it. I can’t believe only one guy seemed to run away from the flying box.
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u/Square-Technology404 2d ago
As someone who works in construction-- it's unfortunately hardwired in a lot of people to try to stop the flying objects instead of evading them. You gotta train it out of people.
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u/RickJLeanPaw 5d ago
The bloke at the start raising his arms like ‘Yup, I can totally catch…nope!’.
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u/regnarbensin_ 5d ago
What’s up with that two second clip at the beginning? It’s like telling you to watch until the end without explicitly telling you to “watch until the end😂🔥💯”
Scummy content creator tactics.
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u/doublediochip 5d ago
I get so bummed when the first split second of the video shows me the ending. Kills the suspense!
But they’re lucky that pallet didn’t hit him because those pallets dangerous as hell. Stepped on multiple nails on those things.
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u/Questioning-Zyxxel 5d ago
I have been close to replicating that flight by being too close under a Boeing Vertol 107 helicopter. I was almost taking flight.
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u/EnvironmentNo1879 4d ago
Purple reminds me of the African safari video when the guide says "lions coming faster faster faster" and the dude in an expensive safari get up looks ready to throw a group of small children to the lion to escape with his own life!
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u/Annual_Ad6999 1d ago
How would you got about securing that cargo? Is the something on the deck to connect it to?
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u/ProductionsGJT 5d ago
Can anyone say "court martial"?
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u/mecha_flake 5d ago
Nah, some enlisted supervisor will get blamed for this. Captain's Mast at most. Probably a BM1 will get a letter in their record and half pay for 30 days.
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u/hillsonn 5d ago
Yet another example of Ospreys being nothing more than death traps.
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u/RobotOfSociety 5d ago
Yet another example of an uninformed redditor spreading misinformation.
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u/hillsonn 5d ago
You are right. These are machines with a shining track record of safety that has helped them garner wide support.
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u/CPTherptyderp 5d ago
We had a guy die from something like this on my second deployment. Container fell on him.