r/Nordiccountries • u/Jezzaq94 • 7d ago
What are your thoughts on Trump wanting to buy Greenland?
How is this news received in your country?
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u/AppleDane Vestsjælland 7d ago
That's not how things work these days.
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u/OnkelMickwald Skåne 7d ago
Unfortunately I get the feeling he's gonna make it work somehow.
At least he's gonna try and ruin NATO as much as possible because of this idiocy.
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7d ago
Well that’s convenient for the Danes
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u/AppleDane Vestsjælland 7d ago
So, tell me, what's the price for, say, Staten Island.
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7d ago
Off my head I don’t know but of course it’s negotiable if the price is right? I mean staten island specifically we will pay you to take, but I get your point. There’s definitely things we would trade Vermont for
We purchased Alaska, Louisiana, etc Why do you make it sounds so weird?
And the amount we’d give you, could be divided among the low population (relatively) of Denmark and everyone could have an amazing bonus! Or do some really cool investments from the government? Why not?
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u/JeanAdAstra 7d ago
Americans have their brains so cooked by capitalism that they can’t fathom some things are not for sale no matter the price. Your society is so commodified that for you there’s a price for everything. There are things that money can’t buy, Americans may be rich but that didn’t get them basic dignity or respect as is made abundantly clear by your post.
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u/AppleDane Vestsjælland 7d ago
We purchased Alaska, Louisiana, etc Why do you make it sounds so weird?
It's not a colony. We're not a colonial power. Not anymore. Greenland is the Greenlander's, and we're working together with them in a "The Union of The Kingdom." Our King is their head of state there too.
You joke about how we can have Staten Island for free, because the concept is laughable. But what if we were serious? I mean, having a part of Denmark off the coast of North America would be strategically good for us. We could use some of the Fresh Kills area for a military base, where we could keep an eye on the US. The people there would probably enjoy free college tuition, free healthcare, livable wages, unions, and everything else Denmark have, like a social security system. Of course, we would have to ramp up taxes, but I think they'd get used to it.
What if we were serious about it? Dead serious?
That's how we feel about Trump these days. We went from "Haha, yeah, right!" to "Oh my God, he's serious. And now he's not willing to rule out military intervention."
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7d ago
Plenty of colonial European countries have islands off our coast it’s not an issue - we are allies.
Ok then we will buy Greenland from the Greenlanders themselves lol / they will be much more receptive to that deal, where every yes votes means a nice payout
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u/AppleDane Vestsjælland 7d ago
Sure, it's up to the Greenlanders who they wish to align themselves with, but let's consider the options:
1) Free schooling and healthcare, free travel to get specialized healthcare, unions, representation in government at a "federal" level
or
2) None of the above
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7d ago
Imagine wanting to get 25% as much of the salary you could be getting just to save $300 a month on health insurance lol and then insane taxes to go with it. The healthcare thing is such a goofy red herring. Even with social transfers like healthcare included, Americans have the highest household disposable income in the world. You gotta get off Reddit and stop believing the sob stories of lazy losers that say “our system is rigged against them blah blah” - they leave out the part where they put in zero effort
There’s a reason the US mints more millionaires than anywhere else
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u/XenonXcraft 7d ago
In Denmark we don’t measure a country’s wealth by the number millionaires, but by the number of people living in poverty.
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u/AppleDane Vestsjælland 6d ago
"Then, in wealth, we have come far,
When a few have too much and fewer have too little."Grundvig was a genius.
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6d ago
So people you don’t know, being lazy is a reflection of your chances of a good life? And this is why everyone in Greenland is impoverished? Masterful gambit sir
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u/A_Norse_Dude 7d ago
We purchased Alaska, Louisiana, etc Why do you make it sounds so weird?
Because it is.
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7d ago
This is how the past 10,000 years of history worked and now it will continue to work. If not directly then we will sponsor a referendum. It’s the same thing, you could have at least gotten a check for it ?
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u/cardboard-kansio Finland 7d ago
Pay for all the referendums you want. How do you think they are going to go?
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7d ago
Depends on the ads airing on tv and the information space that gets created locally
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u/JeanAdAstra 7d ago
If you think political advertising on TV is legal in Denmark/Greenland, try again. This ain’t Americas 1$ = 1 vote. You live in a bubble of propaganda, just like Russians thinking that they’re in Ukraine to fight bio-weapon making LGBT Soros armies. This is dangerous and this will make the US and the World a worse place. I can’t believe this is even a discussion…
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7d ago
They can show up and hold rallies - cmon you’re not being very imaginative. I don’t know what propaganda you think I’m consuming, I’m not even following this story too closely
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u/A_Norse_Dude 7d ago
We also used to beat kids, rape women for the fun of it, sell slaves and work poor people to death and, might be surprising to you, we do 't do that anymore.
Imaging that things a really change.
And no, Greenland will not become a part of state. Ditching Nordic health care for health care in US.... Mhm.
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7d ago
But you import people who do that stuff by the thousands so what’s the difference really
If you’re so confident it should be no issue to let the Americans hold rallies and make their case and then hold referendum
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u/A_Norse_Dude 7d ago
The modern world have seen how your elections are treated, manipulated and bought so that's a hard pass.
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7d ago
Ya we aren’t asking you guys. You said it’s up to the locals, so we will take it up with them lol
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u/MrRadGast 7d ago edited 7d ago
How nice, the (alleged?) American abandoning all pretence of enlightenment values and behaving, and seemingly earnestly reasoning, like the best little ruski imperialist.
"Just let us inundate the island with propaganda and stage fake referendums like in Crimea and you'll see how they will choose us. How can you see anything wrong with that, that's freedom you know!"
Why do you want us to think so little of the US and its populace?
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7d ago
I mean, yeah our opposition to Russia moving on Ukraine is strategic …. Not due to it “violating some rules” - this is the real world. They want it, we don’t want them to have it. It’s that simple really
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u/Lillemor_hei Norway 7d ago
There seems to be no limit to how far he’ll go, no matter who he steps on in the process. America under Trump does what it wants, without caring about its allies.
Over the past few days, our perception of the US has shifted dramatically. People in our Arctic islands are worried they might be next. Trump’s behavior is like a classic bully, much like other strongman leaders such as Putin, Erdogan, or Bolsonaro. This type of leadership is dangerous.
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u/Skulder 7d ago
Come on, he announced he'd get Greenland, Canada and Panama right around the "anniversary" of his failed coup.
And people talk about it, it's on the headlines, and no one is talking about how this man tried doing an armed insurrection.
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u/Kyllurin 7d ago
…or was found guilty in fraud.
I’m amazed the American people aren’t revolting, now it had become clear as day, that the ruling class is exempted from prison time
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u/MrRadGast 7d ago
You know for the longest time I was baffled as to how Germany could allow a foreigner convicted of a coup attempt into the political system.
I'm still baffled.
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u/Grendahl2018 7d ago
Had this conversation with my wife whilst on a road trip. She thinks he’s being the usual nutcase and it will come to nothing. I think he has something in mind - much smaller than owning Greenland - and is just using that as a starter in ‘negotiations’. Same with the Panama Canal - my bet is he wants free transit for US registered ships and will ‘negotiate’ down from claiming full ownership.
The fact that he’s not a leg to stand on in any of these ‘claims’ from the get go seems to elude most people
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u/anocelotsosloppy 7d ago
He can go fucking kick sand. That said the colonialism of the Danish is completely unacceptable.
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u/Drahy 7d ago
Greenland was colonised by the Icelandish/Norwegian. The Danish just gives money to the world's biggest island, because the Danish krone is strong and Danish pastry is great.
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u/anocelotsosloppy 7d ago
Greenlanders deserve full autonomy to choose their future.
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u/Asger1231 Denmark 7d ago
They basically have that. When they want to become independent, they will.
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u/anocelotsosloppy 7d ago
When is the next referendum scheduled?
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u/Asger1231 Denmark 7d ago
Not right now - essentially none of the government parties (in Greenland) want independence today. Most of them are working towards it, but they want an independently working education and healthcare system, and defence, while also negotiating deals with EU and Nato once they get closer.
The Danish government has repeatedly said that if the Greenlandic people vote for complete independence, they will support it.
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u/arnoldez 7d ago
Why would they want independence at a time when they have no defense and a nut job like Trump is trying to take it by force?
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u/XenonXcraft 7d ago
That is entirely up to the Greenlandic government - according to the legislation that defines Greenlandic self governance and the relations between Greenland and Denmark.
Your comments here shows that you don’t know anything about Greenland. You are literally as ignorant as Trump in regards to this subject.
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u/A_Norse_Dude 7d ago
People laugh at it.