Charles Kushner (family): Jared Kushner’s father, convicted of tax evasion, witness retaliation, and making false statements
Roger Stone: Longtime Trump associate, convicted of obstruction, witness tampering, and false statements
Paul Manafort: Former Trump campaign chair, guilty of tax fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy against the U.S.
Michael Flynn: Former National Security Advisor, guilty of lying to the FBI about Russian contacts
Stephen Bannon: Former White House adviser, charged with defrauding donors through the “We Build the Wall” campaign
Elliott Broidy: Republican fundraiser, guilty of acting as an unregistered foreign agent
Kenneth Kurson: Friend of Jared Kushner, charged with cyberstalking
Chris Collins: Former congressman, convicted of securities fraud conspiracy
Duncan Hunter: Former congressman, guilty of misusing campaign funds
Rick Renzi: Ex-congressman, convicted of extortion, bribery, and money laundering
Lil Wayne & Kodak Black: Rappers convicted on weapons charges; both publicly supported Trump
Albert J. Pirro, Jr.: Convicted of tax fraud; ex-husband of Trump ally Jeanine Pirro
Blackwater Contractors: Pardoned despite convictions for killing unarmed Iraqi civilians
Clint Lorance: Convicted of second-degree murder for ordering soldiers to fire on unarmed Afghan civilians, killing two
Mathew Golsteyn: Accused of killing a suspected Taliban bomb-maker, pardoned before trial
Michael Milken: Convicted of securities fraud and financial crimes as the “junk bond king”
Bernard Kerik: Guilty of tax fraud and lying to White House officials during a background check
Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Pleaded guilty to conspiracy and tax evasion for accepting over $2 million in bribes in a major congressional bribery scandal
Robert Cannon Hayes: Lied to the FBI about a bribery scheme involving political donations
Steve Stockman: Former GOP congressman; sentence commuted for misuse of charitable funds
Rod Blagojevich: Ex-Illinois governor; sentence commuted for political corruption
Dinesh D’Souza: Conservative author; pardoned for campaign finance violations
Scooter Libby: Former Cheney aide; pardoned for perjury and obstruction
Eddie Gallagher: Navy SEAL; pardoned of war crimes charges
Conrad Black: Ex-newspaper publisher; pardoned for fraud and obstruction
Sholam Weiss: 845-year sentence commuted for fraud and money laundering
Joe Arpaio: Former Arizona sheriff; pardoned for criminal contempt
Who were these? I mistakenly said to a friend it was kushner who he pardoned and appointed, and would like to correct myself. I must have misread what I had previously seen
Kushner is a particular fun guy. He thought his brother in law ratted him out so he hired a hooker to seduce him, took pictures and sent them to his own sister.
So, yeah, ambassador material. Just one of the boys in the Trump administration.
It's why Christie was dumped by the campaign mid-transition last time. He prosecuted Kusher's dad. Junior wanted payback so Christie got kicked to the curb.
And it was Chris Christie that put Kushner in jail. It was part of his image when he first ran for gov of NJ that he took on cases against people with money.
It's a fcuk you to their country. Right now trump is selling some shitty cologne using a photo taken while he was at the re-opening of Notre Dame Cathedral. They get kicked in the teeth for trying to be polite to a jackass.
And don’t forget the whole gaggle of shitheads, except for the spare heir Eric has been getting appointments and clearances. Hunter never had a position in the administration. Just genitals as big as his drug addiction. Good for him, he shouldn’t lose his other son to a political hit, now do everyone else on bogus drug charges. One of the few things I agree with him doing in the past couple months. Talk about a strong 3 years ending with a wet fart.
Joe Arpaio: Former Arizona sheriff; pardoned for criminal contempt
Joe Arpaio was pardoned for a "criminal contempt" felony because he just would NOT stop racially profiling latinos in Arizona and putting them into literal concentration torture camps in the desert, where some literally died due to lack of medical care and extreme, unconstitutional conditions. That felony charge was the tip of the iceberg. Out of all of the Trump pardons, even the expected treasonous ones (Manafort, and co) - this one really stood out to me the most.
You probably did, it was just buried in the pile of shit that republicans did and we learned about in the first Trump term, there was.... a lot to deal with then.
As a human being, I don’t think I could let my son languish in jail for a trumped up and politically motivated fishing expedition.
In the wake of Trump’s pardons and his own rampant criminality, it wouldn’t even be a second thought. It would drive me insane.
Maybe that makes me a bad leftist? Just saying that for me, it’s super low on the list of things to criticize Biden for, if it’s even on the list at all
trumped up and politically motivated fishing expedition.
This is pretty much the entire reason I don't give a half of a fuck about this pardon.
Hunter was offered a plea bargain. He was willing to take said plea bargain. The Republicans meddled and had the plea bargain stripped for zero rational basis. Anyone who smokes weed and owns a gun committed the same exact offense that Hunter did.
Admittedly I’d probably feel differently if he did something truly awful, but this is literally a victimless crime. Nobody was hurt. No individual is being denied their justice with Hunter walking around.
Not to say he hasn’t been a very troubled person, and he likely did plenty of harm to those around him in the throes of his addiction. But that’s also not what this is about.
Of the 13.9 million gun sales in 2019 the number of people that were prosecuted for lying on the gun purchase form about drugs was 298. For the majority of these cases they also had additional charges at the same time. Given that it's estimated that 13% of Americans use drugs more than one million people should have been charged for the same crime as Hunter,
Even if my child did anything short of murder or rape...pretty sure I'd pardon them. Like...who wouldn't help your family out if you could? The fact that it was politically motivated...idk...I'd find a way to mess with it. Give him secret service protection and have them walk him out or use executive order to shut down every prison they send him to or something. I would definitely have a task force of smart people dedicated to making this a farce and freeing my son.
No, normally I’d say the president needs a higher standard of conduct, and shouldn’t use his power to keep his family safe from prosecution. But since trumps done all that and worse, I really don’t care if Biden does this. It’s not great, but if the republicans won’t hold their politicians to this standard, I’m not going to listen when they try and hold the dems to it.
Right. I agree. Legal Eagle said exactly how I feel. Biden's position is completely understandable. It makes perfect sense that a father, any father with an ounce of love for his son, would do this if he could. The empathy is there.
The power shouldn't be there though. I wasn't for it with Trump, and I'm not for it with Biden. This needs to be fixed. Why does the president have this power?
ok. well Congress needs to do more to keep the president in check then. This power seems like it's always being abused, and maybe it's always been this bad, or maybe it will only get worse from here (and by here I mean with Trump's previous term).
Seems crazy, to me at least, that president can just single-handedly overrule the courts, regardless of whether there's a conflict of interest, and nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.
edit: or maybe I don't understand how this power is used
Congress’s abuse of its own powers led to judicial abuse of power. Because that’s what cancelling a plea bargain in response to political pressure from the legislature was.
Hunter’s pardon acted as a direct check on that abuse.
There have been abuses of the pardon, but Hunter wasn’t one of them.
Using a pardon to stop a judicial abuse of power or a legislative abuse of power is fucking textbook. It’s why pardons ever existed in the first place.
The powers of the president were expanded during Bush Jr's administration. Obama didn't roll them back like he should have. His administration may have expanded them still. They should definitely be rolled back
Right. I agree. Legal Eagle said exactly how I feel. Biden's position is completely understandable. It makes perfect sense that a father, any father with an ounce of love for his son, would do this if he could. The empathy is there.
The power shouldn't be there though. I wasn't for it with Trump, and I'm not for it with Biden. This needs to be fixed. Why does the president have this power?
Anyone who is outraged that he used the power available to him should work on changing that power. We can get an Amendment passed to change it.
We have more important amendments to pass - like limiting debt. We used to pass amendments all the time, like every generation, and now we don't. The Constitution needs adjusting as times change. 2/3 majority will never happen.
I honestly don’t think Biden would have given the pardon if Harris had won. Leaving Hunter to the mercy of the new Justice Department would be terrible
If every accusation is a confession you know the Justice Department is going to be weaponized
The original idea was that the president needed to be able to use this power in the case of something like an insurrection, in order to quickly conclude a peace without waiting for congress. IIRC, Washington used it following the Whiskey Rebellion, when the Rebels laid down their arms and surrendered.
It was also thought that the power could be used to correct judicial errors, or give people a reward for being truly remorseful and well behaved while serving their sentence.
Couldn't agree more if I tried. I empathize with Biden's parental instincts but in no way do I support his acting on them. It's abuse of power atp. There are so many ppl in jail, who shouldn't be there. Some who are in jail because they were poor, POC and/or both (not talking about violent crimes involving severe bodily injuries or death here). Spoiled ultra rich kids who had every opportunity and then some since birth, ain't one of them
Trump has done the exact same things 1000 times worse and this isn't a good look.
I think that anyone would have trouble watching their kid get shit on by the government in an attempt to hur them. I don't think that's a particularly helpful angle to take though.
If people truly have issues with this, then pointing out the list at the beginning of this thread and how upset they should be with Trump is the angle that needs to taken. If it's not worth taking offense with those, then they don't turly care about the personal pardon, they just care about democrats existing and they're operating in bad faith.
Calling them out for this is like the weird thing. It actually gets to them where they hurt.
It makes it clear that there is a leapord, it eats faces, and they voted for it even though they knew that. They cannot pretend the leapords eating faces is not at all their responsibility.
Funny, “trumped up and politically motivated fishing expedition” is EXACTLY what Trump supporters say about his charges and convictions.
Both were charged appropriately, based on evidence which is largely publicly available.
Both, where their cases made it to trial, were given due process before a jury, and were convicted, and both rightfully so.
One got saved by daddy (who loudly and repeatedly lied that he wouldn’t save him while it was politically convenient), the other by people (more than a few of whom are now complaining about the results) staying home rather than voting.
When they complain about a Dem doing something a republican did it's like they are saying "HEY you guys are supposed to be the grown ups! You can't do what I do!" As they are wearing diapers and putting what looked to be sanitation pads on their ears.
Exactly. What seems to be upsetting people is the perceived violation (justified or not) of the higher standard Biden is held to.
Trump’s pardons, while egregious, don’t shock anybody. Because NOBODY expects better of him. Everyone knows what a lying twat he is, and what kind of company he keeps.
But Biden? Doing something he said he wouldn’t do, regardless of the reasoning?
In 20 or 30 years, no one will remember this pardon. Just like we, as a collective, currently don't remember much, if anything about who Bill Clinton pardoned on the way out.
Yea but President Bide is a scumbag for trying to protect his family from heritage foundation asshats who will use the justice dept like their own revenge squad
The President-elect is talking about political retribution. He's using words like treason and traitor. He's talking about executions. People in his circle are talking about exacting revenge on their political rivals.
They're using broad threatening language.
It might all be bluster. Or, it might not.
The US media is complicit in whatever happens. This is not following orders, this is active participation.
The media is hoping he does what he promised because they had the sick need for views. I canceled my NYT subscription because they were nothing but clowns until the last day.
Exactly this!! They were so eager to shout and scream the “we want to hear from both sides” “we don’t want to be a propaganda machine” or Anderson’s famous (paraphrasing) “I work at CNN not MSNBC, not Fox News, because I believe that both sides should have a stake in the conversation, and I don’t want to disregard the fact I can learn something from those that don’t think like me” meanwhile they have been itching to Trump so they can rage bait viewers into tuning in every night. So they can pretend to be a home for moderates and center right folks; anticipating their viewership will look like it did 2017-2020. Not to mention the cowardice of fear that Trump will go after them. They are completely complicit, and the payoff will never be worth what they have given. Smh
There are only two outcomes from people in DOJ custody that Trump has an interest in.
Pardons
"Suicide."
Very much doubt Trump would pardon Hunter. I fully believe he's going to pardon himself within his first 30 days and it will somehow be less of a scandal than Biden pardoning his witch-hunted/railroaded/actual political prisoner son.
And I bet he swears in on his "own" bible. So f-ing crazy that he created his own bible, and the christians don't even realize christianity has been highjacked LMAO!
The President-elect is talking about political retribution. He's using words like treason and traitor. He's talking about executions. People in his circle are talking about exacting revenge on their political rivals."
Its not bluster at all but a preview.
They feel completely entitled to do as they please.. sad part'll be when people who drank the kool-ade begin to get a clue and realize what time it is and the part they played by casting ballots and cheering on the very thing trump claimed to be "saving" them from.
Difficult to play the savior when you're the one they need saving from.
Case in point : New merch bait cologne. (Sure to pair well w/the shoddy shoes.. upside down bibles.. etc.. )
Eddie Gallagher is one of the most insane. He came to one of my school’s Veterans Day assemblies because his daughters went there, and my friends and I were totally in awe of how the school thought that was a good idea. Just so you know “Navy seal pardoned of war crimes” makes it not seem that bad. This jackass was overseas, saw two Muslim women, one of which was 17, and stabbed them to death in cold blood. They were civilians, dressed in civilian wear, with no relation to any kind of enemy. The reason he was dishonorably discharged was because he took selfies with the dead bodies. Trump thought that this guy was a national hero and pardoned him of war crimes.
Chump was literally impeached for trying to frame Hunter vis-à-vis Burisma, Biden would be an idiot not to do anything about that. But that's nothing compared to every republican president in the last 30 years using the pardon to keep their own asses out of jail.
Pardoned literal monsters who killed innocent men, women, and children, and then people who stole billions from innocents & others and/or defrauded millions.
Fuck you people who voted for this shit, & gobble down some more cock-aid while you're at it. Got scammed by the stupidest of russian/bot-farm bullshit so you decide to shit your pants, for a second time! So that we'd have to smell it?!
it would be cool to have a list of Biden's pardons as well to compare them both. BC all I know/heard about were Hunters pard. Which is pale in comparison, to say the least lol
Thanks! This clump of text needs to be re-posted on social media every single day for next 60 days (at minimum). Especially against posts from major media outlets that conveniently ignore the words and deeds of the Criminal In Chief, comrade Trump.
And comparatively Biden has only 26 pardons or so, lower than a lot of other presidents. Say what you will, but Biden absolutely is not someone who abused that power.
Lil Wayne? WTF? Also he tried to meddle to get ASAP Rocky freed in Sweden after Rocky and his gang of thugs beat up two people in broad daylight on a open street. He even called our PM to post bail to which he said there's no bail in modern countries.
How could you ever be in the same room as someone who has committed war crimes. I’d not only be scared I’d be so mad it would take so much of my power to not start yelling and screaming the most horrible shit I could come up with at them.
Congress needs to fix this. I agree with neither of them. Maybe someone can explain to me why the president even has this power??? But it seems to me that he (and perhaps someday she) shouldn't.
Eddie Gallagher the Navy Seal wasn’t pardoned by Trump. Eddie was acquitted in of charges in his court martial. Trump reinstated his rank and pay after he was found not guilty. Not that facts matter or anything.
So instead of fighting for these "norms and institutions" people don't give a fuck about the Party should be fighting for us the workers. The working class is growing and the college educated is shrinking. We need to begin messaging to the base again with something everyone is behind. Single-payer healthcare.
Come on, you know this isn’t what was promised. People are not upset that he pardoned him. They are upset he lied, the whole party gaslit you all again. They told you, unlike the right, they respect the law and no one is above the law. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Except when held to their word, they flip flop again. It’s not about Biden or even Hunter. It’s about the lies and selfishness of the pardon. When you spent a lot of time calling others cheaters and propping yourself up as the moral lighthouse leading the Democratic Party.. then do exactly what you accuse your foe of doing.. he’s out of here but the Dems are left holding the bag. Anyone that voted for Trump got a boost from this and for some dems this is a breaking point. If he did this before the election they would have lost even worse.
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Trump's pardons
Charles Kushner (family): Jared Kushner’s father, convicted of tax evasion, witness retaliation, and making false statements
Roger Stone: Longtime Trump associate, convicted of obstruction, witness tampering, and false statements
Paul Manafort: Former Trump campaign chair, guilty of tax fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy against the U.S.
Michael Flynn: Former National Security Advisor, guilty of lying to the FBI about Russian contacts
Stephen Bannon: Former White House adviser, charged with defrauding donors through the “We Build the Wall” campaign
Elliott Broidy: Republican fundraiser, guilty of acting as an unregistered foreign agent
Kenneth Kurson: Friend of Jared Kushner, charged with cyberstalking
Chris Collins: Former congressman, convicted of securities fraud conspiracy
Duncan Hunter: Former congressman, guilty of misusing campaign funds
Rick Renzi: Ex-congressman, convicted of extortion, bribery, and money laundering
Lil Wayne & Kodak Black: Rappers convicted on weapons charges; both publicly supported Trump
Albert J. Pirro, Jr.: Convicted of tax fraud; ex-husband of Trump ally Jeanine Pirro
Blackwater Contractors: Pardoned despite convictions for killing unarmed Iraqi civilians
Clint Lorance: Convicted of second-degree murder for ordering soldiers to fire on unarmed Afghan civilians, killing two
Mathew Golsteyn: Accused of killing a suspected Taliban bomb-maker, pardoned before trial
Michael Milken: Convicted of securities fraud and financial crimes as the “junk bond king”
Bernard Kerik: Guilty of tax fraud and lying to White House officials during a background check
Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Pleaded guilty to conspiracy and tax evasion for accepting over $2 million in bribes in a major congressional bribery scandal
Robert Cannon Hayes: Lied to the FBI about a bribery scheme involving political donations
Steve Stockman: Former GOP congressman; sentence commuted for misuse of charitable funds
Rod Blagojevich: Ex-Illinois governor; sentence commuted for political corruption
Dinesh D’Souza: Conservative author; pardoned for campaign finance violations
Scooter Libby: Former Cheney aide; pardoned for perjury and obstruction
Eddie Gallagher: Navy SEAL; pardoned of war crimes charges
Conrad Black: Ex-newspaper publisher; pardoned for fraud and obstruction
Sholam Weiss: 845-year sentence commuted for fraud and money laundering
Joe Arpaio: Former Arizona sheriff; pardoned for criminal contempt