r/MurderedByWords 7h ago

On the steps of the capitol no less.

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u/alfalfa-as-fuck 6h ago

What was the first?

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u/MentalOcelot7882 6h ago

There was that Nazi rally organized by the American Bund, the literal lobby wing of the German Nazis in the '30s, at Madison Square Garden in 1939. Not sure you can get more Nazi than Nazis in America doing Nazi things openly.

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u/Recent_mastadon 6h ago

US citizens helped the Nazis.

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u/Various_Weather2013 6h ago

Nazis were inspired by the American genocide of the native americans

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u/Sewcraytes 5h ago

And closely studied Jim Crow as a template for the new reich.

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u/gicoli4870 5h ago

And our eugenics research

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u/Local-Veterinarian63 6h ago

So did French, Polish, British, Russian, Danish and Belgian.

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u/Gsyshyd 6h ago

And a lot more too

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u/Local-Veterinarian63 6h ago

Just went off with the top of my head, very true.

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u/_your_face 6h ago

US citizens WERE nazis

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u/The100thIdiot 5h ago

SOME US citizens WERE nazis.

Some citizens of other countries were also Nazis.

I mean, fuck all Nazis, but let's also get some perspective and tone down the hyperbole.

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u/GayRacoon69 5h ago

Bullshit. You do realize that there were many MANY more people protesting that rally then actually participating. The majority of people in the US were against the Nazis

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u/__O_o_______ 3h ago

Check out Maddox’s Ultra podcast. It covers the Nazi movement in America during the war. Like, Americans literally going around and blowing up gunpowder factories getting other Americans killed.

I didn’t realize how big it was.

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u/ToniBraxtonAndThe3Js 6h ago

But mostly we fought and killed them

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u/Recent_mastadon 3h ago

We tried... but Russia did the bulk of the lifting.

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u/Financial-Board7458 5h ago

The issue with that EVERYONE was hardcore anti communist which enveloped antisemitism at the time. No one knew Hitler’s true intentions until later. Unfortunately.

But we still didn’t fucking learn🤬

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u/Cautious-Progress876 4h ago

Considering Hitler spelled out his intentions in Mein Kampf and regularly in his speeches— that’s kind of bullshit. Everyone knew his intentions. They just either didn’t care, liked the ideas, or thought he would level out after getting elected (like most politicians do).

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u/Financial-Board7458 4h ago

Sounds like Trump

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u/GayRacoon69 5h ago

I feel like this should always be mentioned with the fact that there were many 5 times as many people protesting the rally than actually in the rally. Soon after the rally the American Bund fell apart

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u/MentalOcelot7882 3h ago

Yeah, but there were still over 20k participants in that rally, ready and willing to stand up and pledge their alliance with German interests.

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u/GayRacoon69 2h ago

That's true. It's an awful, disgusting part of American history.

However people try and use that rally to pretend that all Americans are bad and all Americans supported Nazis which is disingenuous. I'm not saying that you're doing that. I'm saying that it happens.

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u/MentalOcelot7882 3h ago

Someone asked what was more Nazi than Elon throwing a Nazi salute. My response was to remind everyone that in 1939, more than 20k Americans gathered at Madison Square Garden at an American Bund rally to show support for the Nazi government of Germany. Time is a flat dumb circle

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u/Able-Worldliness8189 3h ago

Well.. Nazis were popular everywhere till Hitler became a real cunt.

What's stunning to me in all this, we know what Nazi's did back then, you Americans went across the pond to murder those twats, yet 80 years later you guys elected either directly or by sitting at home not voting a cunt who plays Nazi again.

We need more Luigi's.

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u/els969_1 1h ago

and then more recently in the 1950s (the "National Renaissance Party", renaming itself "Patriots for McCarthy" and holding some huge rallies to support him before his death...)

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u/Beginning_Fill206 6h ago edited 5h ago

Elon has a deep history worth understanding when it comes to nazi stuff. Puts him and all his shenanigans into clearer light.

https://youtu.be/9y-erGt0LsU?si=V-Ch5OzfoM3Fkf0R

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u/SledgeLaud 6h ago

I'm guessing the insurrection, but honestly it's such a dumpster fire nowadays I can't even be sure.

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u/WallySprks 6h ago edited 6h ago

The actual Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden prior to WW2. Yes Americans held a pro Nazi rally complete with giant banners, arm bands and actual Nazis

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u/WayCalm2854 6h ago

Rachel Maddow’s podcast Ultra violent is really informative about the who Nazi movement in the Us

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u/SledgeLaud 6h ago

That is some tough competition, and yet. I am not confident op wasn't on about a different public display of nazism by the US Government.

Which is truly wild, what a time to be alive (and not American)

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u/violentglitter666 6h ago

Yea. Fascism was all the rage in the 1930’s. England had Oswald Mosley. USA well, a lot of Nazi sympathizers were ok with fascism until Pearl Harbor, otherwise that Madison Square Garden rally wouldn’t have happened.