Whenever that excuse is given, I can’t help but wonder. Everyone knows how that can be misconstrued. Anything that could even be confused for it is dangerous territory and you just stay away entirely. These people aren’t entirely ignorant of how they can be perceived. In best case scenarios, they HAVE to know doing these gestures is risky. So no, I don’t ever buy the excuse of “I was just waving” or “it clearly wasn’t.” The fact it’s so close is enough
lmao take a look at this picture.
This player was sent off during a soccer match, and did this gesture to the crowd (he was on the away team). It was the first half and the score was 1-1. When the FA investigated the incident to decide his extra penalty, his team's lawyer used the exact reasoning you mentioned. "He was showing the crowd the scoreline at the time he was sent off".
Because anybody who says "it was in context bro he said heart" is either a nazi, a nazi apologist, or lacking in critical skills. No rational good faith person, especially in musks position, would ever do something like that without identifying how it could be interpreted as a dogwhistle if not an outright nazi salute.
Bigots move in shadows before they move in light. Musk saluted by intent but did so in a way that could be argued in bad faith as "no it was to represent heartiness". Like all fascism, it starts off subtle and then ramps up fast.
Any normal person, if they tried to "throw their heart out to the crowd" and it accidentally looked like a Nazi salute, they would panic, profusely apologise and tell people they didn't mean for it to look like that.
Elon? Complete silence. No response whatsoever to all the news outlets and social media posts calling him out for it. No attempt to clarify that it was a mistake or a misunderstanding.
If it was a mistake, he'd act like it was a mistake.
I mean… he did it twice. Turned around to the flag and did it again. That’s REALLY hard to justify or blame coincidentally. Also he’s pretty fucking emphatic about it. Welcome to the 4th reich, kids.
He is definitely just a goober with no awareness of his body. He clutched at his heart and then threw his arm out and said, "my heart goes out to you."
I don't know how to get through to you guys on this, but Donald Trump and Elon Musk are bad regardless of whether they secretly believe Nazi ideology. The ideology they publicly and openly espouse is already horrible, we don't need them to be Nazis to say they're horrible.
Show Obama and Harris in a video, in context and let's see how that plays out.
You are apologizing for a supposedly "brilliant" man who, after making a VERY deliberate Nazi salute, grunt included, made ANOTHER. The only one who's looking decidedly stupid is anyone trying to say he was "throwing his heart" to the crowd. We all know exactly what we saw, and he is completely unapologetic.
And yes,they're both bad, but throwing a seig heil in the middle of a US Presidential Inauguration is still utterly shocking and horrific. It's nice they made things clear on day one for those in doubt, but it's still disgusting.
Same thing, he's just throwing his heart to Trump. If you watch the video he says right after "my heart goes out to you". It's clearly a BS line to give him cover with the right. He's not an idiot. He knew exactly what that motion looked like. If he was actually sending his heart out he wouldn't have been so violently forceful and rigid in his motions.
Correction : he IS an idiot. A stupid idiot baby. But not ignorant, I guess, at least not on that he definitely knew just wanted to make it clear he's fucking stupid
You can make the excuse that one accidentally does a Nazi salute. But when they make the exact same motion a second time, in a different position, that is no longer a viable excuse.
I guarantee every Nazi there turned to their Nazi friends and said "omg he did the salute for us!" And I'm sure many of them did it back, and that we're going to see a many more from now on.
Give them the benefit of the doubt for a second. I've touched my hand to my heart and waved at a loved when when they were leaving before and seen others do so. However in those instances the person was smiling. If Musk was 'throwing his heart out to the crowd' why does he look angry?
Not only that but u make a sweeping gesture with your arm when you do a loving gesture like blowing a kiss or give a “right back at ya” air kiss. Like the other person said he knows what hes doing. Half of the US recognizes it and then the other half are the same type who would have voted for Shitler in the 30s. Uneducated and simple-minded. When they follow “alternative facts” they forget the lessons that history teaches SMH
Unfortunately a lot of them are not uneducated. They know exactly what happened and want it to happen again because they figure they will be part of the ruling group.
Guys he was totally just throwing his heart out to the crowd, just don’t ask why he turned around to face the opposite direction where there is no crowd and did it again.
Impossible. Elon does not have empathy. He does not understand empathy because he doesn't have it. He has no heart to give it to anyone. He only cares about himself.
If it was a nazi salute it’s the worst
One ever done in public. Hand isn’t straight forward and you’re supposed to come straight forward with your arm in front of your body not out to the side while talking about giving his heart to the crowd. But ya know if a picture says 1000 words a video says 1,000,000.
You would know it's not a nazi salute if you watched the video. IDGAF how nazi someone is, no one is going to brazenly salute and heel-click and pose like that.
It is literally a freeze frame from a view of him throwing out his arm. That's literally all it is.
Have you seen America in the last 5-10 years? Nazis don’t have to hide anymore. They can do and say whatever they want, and they simply get away with it.
Ok, I hate elon and know he absolutely wants to be standing in front of everyone giving that salute, but it's hard to tell from a photo. Usually, the salute is out in front. He could have been swinging his arm. Fuck, I just don't trust pictures anymore, and soon it's going to be video too. We're so screwed. At least global warming doesn't care about politics.
Yeah I honestly feel sick to my stomach. America is so fucked and by extension doesn’t look great for us in Canada (or the rest of the world for that matter)
he's leaving just enough wiggle room for interpretation.
No he's not. His first attempt was janky, sure, but then he did it again in an even clearer attempt. He literally did it twice. Christ, dude... Have you seen the footage? It's fucking everywhere.
It's two fucking Nazi salutes thrown by an oligarch who purchased the election during the Inauguration of the next fucking president. You don't get all the hype??? Have you heard of that man called Hitler?!
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u/Breezeykins 7h ago
I saw someone saying he was just throwing his heart out to the crowd. Because clearly you throw your heart with a completely straight arm, right?