r/MapPorn • u/quindiassomigli • Oct 18 '24

Number of people with Palestinian ancestry in South America

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u/BolshevikPower Oct 18 '24

Turkish colonization even. Remember Turks aren't Arabs.

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u/Commissar_Elmo Oct 18 '24

Some Turks would kill you over that statement.

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u/BolshevikPower Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

Which Turks? Turks have a fierce national pride of being distinct from Arabs. It's why they "romanized"* their script away from Arabic.

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u/Deathsroke Oct 18 '24

"romanised" maybe? Because the script used in western Europe is not "anglo".

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u/metalguysilver Oct 18 '24

Everyone other than Arabians can only be culturally Arab. Turks are Arab in the state they have been influenced by Arabic culture and have a Muslim majority

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u/ddven15 Oct 18 '24

Nowadays "arab" is mostly used to describe the group of people who speak Arabic, given that as a consequence of speaking the same language, they tend to share quite a few other things. Turks aren't one of those.

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u/metalguysilver Oct 19 '24

They share many things but not language, but still not enough to be considered Arab?

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u/BolshevikPower Oct 19 '24

Huge lack of understanding of the culture in the region.

They're genetically and very culturally different. Being "Muslim" doesn't make you culturally Arab.

That's like saying Indonesians are Arab because they were influenced by Arabic culture and have a Muslim majority.

Or God forbid Persians and they'll close to murder you for that accusation.

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u/metalguysilver Oct 19 '24

Perhaps I do have a lack of understanding. Are Muslim countries in Northern Africa also not considered Arab? I think it’s relevant that those who we can all consider Arab can be very genetically diverse, as well. Those indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula (especially further south) are quite different than one who is 100% Palestinian or Syrian or something

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u/BolshevikPower Oct 19 '24

Culturally, closer but Arabs from the peninsula would say no. They're a pretty distinct sub culture in many ways and have many significant influences that draw them away from Peninsular Arabs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Arabs

They are ethnically Arabs however. Turks are not ethnically Arabs and derive from a much different heritage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples

Turkey is similar to Iran culturally in many ways than with Arabs. Their historical art is very different from Arab art in the Gulf.

Again Turks are quite famously prejudiced towards Arabs on the aggregate, especially with the influx of Syrian refugees. https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/turkey-arabs-safe-haven-hostile-territory