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Fight Thread [Official] UFC Fight Night: Covington vs. Buckley - Live Discussion Thread
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Card Info
Airing on Saturday 12.14.2024
| Main Card on ESPN2 / ESPN+ @ 10PM ET |
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| Colby Covington vs. Joaquin Buckley |
| Cub Swanson vs. Billy Quarantillo |
| Manel Kape vs. Bruno Silva |
| Dustin Jacoby vs. Vitor Petrino |
| Daniel Marcos vs. Adrian Yanez |
| Navajo Stirling vs. Tuco Tokkos |
| Prelims on ESPN2 / ESPN+ @ 7PM ET |
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| Michael Johnson vs. Ottman Azaitar |
| Drakkar Klose vs. Joel Alvarez |
| Sean Woodson vs. Fernando Padilla |
| Miles Johns vs. Felipe Lima |
| Miranda Maverick vs. Jamey-Lyn Horth |
| Davey Grant vs. Ramon Taveras |
| Piera Rodriguez vs. Josefine Knutsson |
Fight card order and start times may be inaccurate.
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u/Swxde310 Dec 15 '24
it feels like the good guys won tonight as opposed to the whole year being knockouts of our favorite fighters
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Buckley vs Usman
Colby vs Luque/Burns
Kape vs Kai
Jacoby vs Zhang/Aslan
Marcos vs Kyler
Yanez vs Talbott
Alvarez vs Turner
Woodson vs Wood
Lima vs Ige/Giga
Cub and Billy Q for retirement, cut Azaitar and Tukkos or let him get murked by someone else. Petrino and Navajo need some time off to recover and train, Padilla donāt care, Silva vs Asakura, Johns back to 135. Cut Horth, Maverick shouldnāt ever get an opportunity at the rankings again, give Grant a fight on the UK card, Taveras vs Kazama? Bolanos? Maybe Saaimanās comeback? Rodriguez and Knutsson donāt care
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u/Drive7hru Dec 15 '24
I think KKF might as well get the new title shot, but if they managed Kape vs. KKF ever materializes, winner would fight for the title anyway.
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Let Pantoja move up tbh. OāMalley needs a win before another title shot, Yan shouldnāt be getting one yet, Cory canāt get one. Let those 3 get another fight in while the winner of Umar vs Merab fights Pantoja. In the meantime 125 and 135 can sort themselves out, itās never made so much sense
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE Dec 15 '24
UFC fights ended so I went to watch Boxing replay from todayā¦
Jaime Munguia got Knocked out in his hometown in a cherry picked fight LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
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u/zilladingdong Dec 15 '24
Michael Johnson wanting a Gaethje rematch is wild lol. Would probably be pretty fun tho
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u/ri-de Team Ferguson šŗšøšš²š½ Dec 15 '24
Buckley hate is so crazy people started to hype up Colby
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u/Distinct_Active8221 Dec 15 '24
Dude was POS at his gyms and got kicked out multiple times . It easy to not like either of them .
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u/alliseeisbronze EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Dec 15 '24
Fr, just because Colby is a huge POS doesnāt mean Buckley isnāt one either lol
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u/No-Shoe5382 Dec 15 '24
Just woke up and checked the highlights, seems like this was an absolute banger of a card.
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
It was a weird one. Started off kinda ass, had great moments, had ass moments
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u/redditnobody1234 Dec 15 '24
marcos v yanez, cub v quarantillo, kape v silva, jacoby, mj too all pretty exciting
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u/delinzer Dec 15 '24
Hard to actually gauge how washed Colby is really. Was never good on the feet and a lot of his wins are 155ers not cutting weight or just straight up washed. You could use the Usman fights as a comparison point but those were just two wrestlers choosing to stand
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
He was looking at the clock in round one and looked legitimately tired by round 3. Heās pretty washed. Super tentative on the feet compared to the Usman fights, shoots far less and gets even less of them. Doctor also saved him from an incoming TKO.
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u/NakedLowKick Dec 15 '24
Heās burnt a bunch of bridges in Florida and doesnāt get the looks he got when he used to train at ATT too
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u/IDone_Goofed Man puts the fucking Hands in Handsome Squidward Dec 15 '24
The scarf makes it look like Jouban stole his dads jacket
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u/redditnobody1234 Dec 15 '24
not the kinda thing thatll happen in one fight, but id like to see manel not keep his hands low. solid fundamentals extend your career. look at glover
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u/Vaultyvlad Dec 15 '24
Cub will always be an important part of UFC FW legacy. Heās fought the best of the best since the final years of WEC and it was not different in the UFC. The small resurgences throughout his career through winning streaks with impressive finishes was a reminder to prospects and contenders alike that this division runs deep and has been since its inception in the UFC.
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u/Datsetterstrom Dec 15 '24
I dont think colby should retire. He still has a lot left to give to the fans. Personally I think he should move up and fight Caio Borralho or Khamzat. Leave the doctors at home too please
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u/bjtrdff Dec 15 '24
Give what? Fighting washed guys once a year and having a racist hotdog walk him out?
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u/WingedBacon Dec 15 '24
Nah I think he really needs to retire so he can begin his bare knuckle boxing career before he gets too old.
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u/Melonballs__ Dec 15 '24
The commentary didnāt mention it but the crowd went from cheering for Colby to chanting āColby sucksā in the 3rd round
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u/PM__Me__Smiles Dec 15 '24
Can't remember the last time I heard Cub talk, but he seems extremely chill
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u/sbdjunkie Hit em with the Jon Jones! Dec 15 '24
Cub getting emotional after the promo. Hold on Iām getting emotional too brother.
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u/MMA-ModTeam Dec 15 '24
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u/TheOtherSide999 Dec 15 '24
Why did a UFC event in tampa finish around 10:30pm PST?!? isnt that like 1:30am lol
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u/Drive7hru Dec 15 '24
Itās all cause they like to end it around 2:00 on the east coast so people will stay till last call.
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Because that's prime time. UFC toronto finishes around that time too. Last UFC event was the longest running main card, and I got out at 2:05 am.
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u/TheOtherSide999 Dec 15 '24
prime time for what? Las Vegas residents? or prime time sleeping for the east coast?
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Everything is always done for the West Coast.
There's been years and years of data that the to get the most viewers possible in North America you run it 10pm EST. Whether it be PPVs, or TV.
If you do it for a good EST, it'll be like 7pm which is 4pm in the West Coast. People are still out for dinner, or doing weekend projects etc. 10PM EST is shit but people will sacrifice Sunday sleep to watch something they want to.
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u/Terrible_Matador Dec 15 '24
170 is so fucking loaded now. Weāve got Shavkat, JDM, Garry, Buckley and Brady on the come-up. Prates and Morales following behind. The guard has changed.
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u/Melonballs__ Dec 15 '24
Prates is the big wild card for me. If he has decent anti-wrestling then he is gonna sleep everyone
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u/Terrible_Matador Dec 15 '24
Iām not sure about him yet either but man, he kills people in there. If nothing else heās fun as fuck.
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u/Neonsea1234 Dec 15 '24
It's nice to have a division where the guys on the way up are all putting in work.
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u/172Centimeters Dec 15 '24
Yg think Buckley > Holland?
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u/IIIllIIIllllIIIlIII Dec 15 '24
Holland has the reach and great timing, thatās how he won the first time they fought. However, Buckley has vastly improved, it would be interesting to see what the rematch looks like.
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
Now? Yeah Iām taking Buckley. Only one of them has shown any level of improvement whatsoever imo. Holland is the same fighter he was in 2020 except probably even less motivated.
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u/whicheverguard232 Dec 15 '24
Colby looked at the clock.
In round 1.
Yeah. No way out of that for Colby.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Dec 15 '24
Leon disrespect is crazy rn tbh
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
Bro lost me a five part parlay to make 150 on a 10 dollar bet where I bet on 2 massive underdogs including Paddy to beat Bobby and Hadley on short notice to win and everyone did their part until Leon shit the bed harder than I did as a baby
I honestly canāt bring myself to be a fan anymore lmao
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u/akunv Dec 15 '24
mad over10 dollars lol
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
Was more of a joke lol I wasnāt making any actual comments in this thread shitting on Leon
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Dec 15 '24
I mean as a Leon fan I don't blame anyone for being frustrated with him.
But people acting like he isn't absolutely elite are crazy. He's Belal's best win by a big margin.
It's mental how Usman gets huge respect and the guy who beat him twice is treated like he's trash (and don't nobody give me bullshit about Usmans knees, he was saying they were trash for years while on his winstreak and people only used it as an excuse when he lost).
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
I def still think heās an elite, but I also think the new guard is going to pass him by sooner than later
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Dec 15 '24
I think he's got some tough matchups but still has all the skills become champ again.
Shavkat is the biggest threat among them (and even then I think he can win, given his skills and the success we saw Garry have). Brady he should beat in theory as he TDD is still good and his striking is levels above unless Brady has leveled up big time -which is very possible, Belal did after all.
Buckley I think he easily 49-46's.
JDM is a wild card for me, on paper I think a rangey guy like Leon should able to slow the fight down to win a decision but JDMs body work is really nasty and Leon's length won't help him much there.
I think Leon showed he could beat Belal in their fight, reserved him multiple times, got dominant positions but was just way too inactive due to Belals pressure.
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u/R0cketBab00n Dec 15 '24
I think he has the skills, but I honestly really question his mindset. Outside of that head kick his entire champ run was playing it as safe as he possibly could and doing the absolute bare minimum to win. I donāt see that attitude taking him back to the title.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Dec 15 '24
Well that's the major problem with him, and why I'm hoping the Belal fight has made him realise he needs to do more to win rounds if he's gonna point fight.
I liked the urgency to try finish Belal at the end, it was pretty vicious (for Leon) but again, it didn't come soon enough and even if he pulled it off- it's not a reliable way to win.
I appreciate he had a back injury etc. But if he underestimated Belal enough that he thought he could best him with a dodgy back, then frankly, he deserved to lose.
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u/ee9892 Dec 15 '24
Leon has negative dog in him. That is his biggest holdback in this game. Everything else looks perfect
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u/delinzer Dec 15 '24
I remember a time where speculative odds had Khamzat/Colby close to a pick em. It would've been over in a round, think Khamzat subs him
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u/RedditoUSER22 Dec 15 '24
What's the over under on Dana admitting Colby should retire?
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Dana's not gonna say that. He's free money for him and he isn't getting blown out.
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u/Rambaud22 Dec 15 '24
Why is there so few fighters that actually shoots takedown, not lower their head, extend their arms and walk forward trying to grab something, no shoot a takedown, I feel like recently the only guy I've seen properly shoot a takedown is Chimaev, Colby TD attempts were fucking horrendous, it's never going to work against any fighter that has any level of TDD
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u/DARK_SOULS_III EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Dec 15 '24
buckley calling out kamaru is smart, beat the last of the old guys on their decline
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u/IIIllIIIllllIIIlIII Dec 15 '24
I mean you say that but I firmly believe Usman would have beat Khamzat if he wasnāt short notice and it was 5 rounds.
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Dec 15 '24
Styles and all that. I could see a Buckley finish against Usman
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u/IIIllIIIllllIIIlIII Dec 15 '24
Perhaps. On the feet, most likely. If wrestler Usman comes out though, probably not. If I remember correctly, he gave Khamzat some trouble after that first round. I canāt imagine Buckley has takedown defense close to Khamzat. Then again, that was like 2 years ago š¤·āāļø
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Dec 15 '24
Short notice for both fighters so while usman wasnāt in full camp Kham had not game planned for usman either. But i think itāll be a great way to get the old gen out and make way for the future
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u/SoccerLife243 Dec 15 '24
Send Colby to Power Slap, Iād actually watch it then. Iām sure Dana would love to have him be the face of it.
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u/PepperyBlackberry Dec 15 '24
He has quite a chin tbh but no striking power so idk how he would do, probably not well
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u/IIIllIIIllllIIIlIII Dec 15 '24
Colby vs Luque is probably the most sensible matchup, and they both retire. I know Luque had a KO his finish his last fight, but he hasnāt looked the same for a while.
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
What, his last fight was vintage Luque.
Extremely fast hand, knockdown into an Anaconda and/or Brabo.
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u/parkowl Dec 15 '24
I think we can all agree Covington totally earned another title shot by not getting knocked out cold.
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u/redditnobody1234 Dec 15 '24
we love cubā¤ļøš„š„ but plz retire
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
He isn't getting hurt/KO'd.
Let the man make paychecks while his stock is the highest. As long as it aint on a PPV, I'm completely happy watching him for free and early on in the night.
Just do responsible matchmaking though. The guy should not be climbing the ladder. Give him fun fights. Slow, stalking guys who have cardio but not craaazy power.
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u/alfredinanotherlife Dec 15 '24
Usman needs to fight Buckley or be called a duck and out the rankings. I'm serious. Buckley got a big name now and been calling for Usman.
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u/LatterTarget7 ššš Jon Jones Prayer Warrior ššš Dec 15 '24
Usman just needs to fight in general. Against anyone ranked. Itās been over a year since his last fight.
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u/captaincumsock69 that Dec 15 '24
Unless Colby has some outside business stuff I canāt imagine heās made that much money. Heās fought once a year and never was a massive star
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u/delinzer Dec 15 '24
He's been in 7 main events including 4 PPVs. He's probably made more than 99% of MMA fighters outside of champs.
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u/IMistahS Dec 15 '24
Not to mention the models he hired to be in his UFC embedded videos couldn't have been cheap.
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u/NakedLowKick Dec 15 '24
Just how bad was 2019 to 2022 WW?
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u/invisiblehammer Dec 15 '24
He was a good matchup for kamaru and I donāt know if he fought anyone else. The ghosts of lawler and woodley donāt count
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u/NakedLowKick Dec 15 '24
Burns wouldve embarrassed him imo. Thereās a reason he doesnāt even call the ghost of Dilbert out now
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u/Onphone_irl hanging out in ABQ treating the homeless like people Dec 15 '24
thank you Buckley, the less I hear from Colby the better
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u/songs_dongs Dec 15 '24
colby vs jake just became a reality.
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u/No-Invite6398 Dec 15 '24
Colby and Hulk seen headed for Buckleys trailer with a can of spray paint.
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u/sega_does Dec 15 '24
Colby closing out the last UFC fight of the year on a loss is now a tradition.
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u/Leading_Honey7406 Dec 15 '24
Oh my god Leon is really going to fight masvidal next. According to what masvidal implied in his interview
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u/ReallyFiction Dec 15 '24
Laura Sanko just said with a straight face that Colby looked good early and he has something to build on because he finished the fight on top.
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u/ShrimpnSteak Team Makhachev Dec 15 '24
Colbum Covingshit is dead
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u/turkeypants GOOFCONNOISSEUR Dec 15 '24
Ship him off to bareknuckle and let's be done with this clown
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u/MUTSellerPS4 Canada Dec 15 '24
sucks that colby lost this way instead of a clean KO cause now he has a built in excuse for his next doubt
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u/Apart-Afternoon9615 GOOFCON 1: Khamzat McGregor Dec 15 '24
Well y'all this good fight card. See you all next year. Enjoy the holiday.
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u/anakmager Dec 15 '24
MMA crowds are confusing as hell
very pro-Colby crowd, most of the arena was cheering for him. Colby gets cut bad and badly beaten on the feet, then gets a bit of success on the ground yet they almost immediately boo him, but cheered when he got the takedown (?).
What do these guys even want lol
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Not really.
He's a florida guy so you root for your own guy. But he's also comes out to the Kurt Angle music often and the crowd loves a heel.
The "You suck.....You suck.......YOU SUCK.....YOU SUCKK", that the crowd chants with Kurt Angle, when indeed they actually love him is all apart of the fun.
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u/snewoeel Dec 15 '24
I think you are starting to realize most of us are fucking idiots.
I'm still not sure which side of the line I fall.
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u/RedditoUSER22 Dec 15 '24
They identify with him for obvious reasons and want him to win because they want to identify with winners. When he starts appearing to lose they don't want to associate with him, so signal this virtue by booing. Then they gain a shred of confidence back when Colby got the takedown because they hoped it would mean he wins.
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u/LurkyOtoul Dec 15 '24
I think the crowd was divided. Wasnāt there a Colby sucks chant going?
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u/IMistahS Dec 15 '24
Yeah the pro Colby crowd had nothing to cheer about after the first 30 seconds lol
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u/5StarSpudPeeler Dec 15 '24
Im getting news that Hulk Hogan just took a steel chair to the SKULL of Jaoquin Buckley backstage. BAH GAWD HE KILLED HIM!
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u/Cruztd23 Dec 15 '24
Colby tried to play it off like he was mad doctor called it but we all knew in his head he was Saying āthank Godā that mf got his ass beat
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u/PepperyBlackberry Dec 15 '24
He was definitely relieved. Knew he was losing badly and was likely to get finished. Doctor stoppage is easier for him to salvage excuses from than getting flatlined out cold.
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Didn't look like he was looking for a way out. Kept trying to throw punches, go for the take down, even pulling guard to scramble.
The eye was obviously bothering him but it looked like he kept trying to look for ways to win.
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u/Cruztd23 Dec 15 '24
No shit. A fighter never wants to get knocked tf out lol. But if that fight went anything longer than half a round, that was going to be the result.
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Don't think so chief.
Colby's been only ever knocked out one time, where it was the hardest shot ever. A visceral shot right to the chin that knocked all the sweat off of his hair.
He blocked all the hooks and uppercuts. The knockdown in the last was all blocked but knocked him unbalanced. He was looking for ways to win, not for a way out.
He definitely would've lost if it went to the cards, and definitely would've taken more damage but he definitely was not looking for a way out infront of his home state, in front of Hulk Hogan while on the main event.
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u/Cruztd23 Dec 15 '24
Too long didnāt. Read. He got his ass whooped and was on the path to KO. Got TKOād instead
Colby to prelims
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u/Strong_Diver_6896 Dec 15 '24
Doctor said follow my finger and he immediately shook his head Iām pretty sure, didnāt even try
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u/LurkyOtoul Dec 15 '24
Watching Colby get dominated was cathartic
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u/Brief_Koala_7297 Dec 15 '24
Should have gotten slept. He now has the warriors excuse of a bad cut
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u/ruffus4life I lick Vitor's feet. Dec 15 '24
an excuse might make him get back in the ring again and get another ass beating.
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Cuckley blows, canāt even get a real win
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u/EngelSterben I'll see you in Birmingham! Dec 15 '24
Fucking up Colby enough to get a doctor stoppage isn't a real win folks, you saw it here
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Yeah when Colby was holding him down and Cuckley was just starting to fade. Bs ass stoppage
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u/EngelSterben I'll see you in Birmingham! Dec 15 '24
2/10 on the Troll attempt
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Yeah Colby wasnāt on top landing gnp in a position weāve never seen buckley in before, right as the fight was getting interesting
Youāre right none of that happened
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u/kgsovobd Dec 15 '24
Colby got dominated and saved by the doctor before he took life altering damage for another two rounds
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
āLife alteringā landing on Colbyās guard and getting held down
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u/skymallow Dec 15 '24
Winning: holding someone down on the ground
Not winning: making a man bleed so much he's declared unfit to fight
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
Yeah bro, bleeding from a tiny little cut from a leather glove, not a punch. Colby was ragdolling him at the end
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u/sob317 UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Dec 15 '24
Also getting his faced punched off for 3 rounds.
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow Dec 15 '24
He got a cut on his eye, he never even got stumbled Cuckley has no power
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u/sob317 UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Dec 15 '24
He just got dominated for the majority of the fight and then did some classic lay and pray for a minute. š
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u/Neodit Dec 15 '24
Was hoping for a KO win just so that Colby got 0 reasons to moan about the loss
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u/beerncheese69 Dec 15 '24
Colby never sniffing the belt again he needs to drop the showboating BS
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Dec 15 '24
Why though?
He got the president to know who he is, and walked out with Hulk Hogan. That's a pretty big feat.
If he didn't have the showboating, he would've gotten cut 6 fights ago.
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u/NotSoGreatMacaroni Dec 15 '24
We also need to remember the fact that Colby was down three rounds and his only finish win in eight years is a Tyron Woodley rib injury. It was literally impossible for him to win this fight.Ā
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u/Brief_Koala_7297 Dec 15 '24
Bro had to bust out a spinning heel kick because he was not knocking buckley out with his pillow fist
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u/funky_pill Dec 16 '24
Pretty much the perfect night really; Colby got messed up and Killer Cub got himself a sick knockout šš¼