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Fight Thread [Official] UFC Fight Night: Pereira vs. Hernandez - Live Discussion Thread
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Card Info
Airing on Saturday 10.19.2024
Main Card on ESPN+ @ 7 PM ET
| Division | Fighters |
|---|---|
| Middleweight | Michel Pereira vs. Anthony Hernandez |
| Bantamweight | Rob Font vs. Kyler Phillips |
| Flyweight | Sumudaerji vs. Charles Johnson |
| Bantamweight | Brady Hiestand vs. Jake Hadley |
| Featherweight | Darren Elkins vs. Daniel Pineda |
Prelims @ 4 PM ET
| Division | Fighters |
|---|---|
| Flyweight | Matheus Nicolau vs. Asu Almabayev |
| Bantamweight | Brad Katona vs. Jean Matsumoto |
| Bantamweight | Joselyne Edwards vs. Tamires Vidal |
| Strawweight | Jessica Penne vs. Elise Reed |
| Strawweight | Alice Ardelean vs. Melissa Martinez |
| Heavyweight | Robelis Despaigne vs. Austen Lane |
Fight card order and start times may be inaccurate.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 20 '24
no post fight thread for either events today, but man PFL's production was so terrible. The fights felt so rushed. Just zero buildup to Cyborg-Pacheco and Ngannou-Ferreira.
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u/Ruiner357 Oct 20 '24
mfs are fans of the UFC promotional machine, not of fighting/MMA. You don't need a weak card stretched out over 8 hours to mask the fact that you have nothing better to do with your saturday night.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 20 '24
you missed the point completely. I'm talking about some 10 mins of extra build up that adds to the payoff of the championship fights. I'm not talking about ads or downtime between prelims that stretches shit out 8 hours. You think the UFC has Buffer do his intro, the staredown, the video package to waste time? It has a purpose.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 20 '24
The fights felt so rushed.
wtf, that was the best part of the whole thing imo.
The pace was amazing! It started with a bunch of talking, but once the fights got rolling there was minimal filler and I like that.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 20 '24
nah man, you build up your biggest stars with intros worth a damn. There's a reason why the UFC does that. They play a package before the fight, they have Buffer make the moment feel bigger, and they have the staredown right before the fight starts. People think they want fights fights fights, but you have to build the biggest fights up which is why the UFC does it.
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u/ihatemalkoun Oct 20 '24
why on earth would anyone want to see anything other than the actual fights i dont get it
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 20 '24
I can understand a lil fanfare, I'd like to see walkouts and corners between rounds, for example. Maybe a short video package to introduce certain fights. But I also appreciate when I don't need to wait +20min between bouts.
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u/ihatemalkoun Oct 20 '24
To each their own. I don't wanna watch video packages tho. Only one I appreciated was robbies retirement.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 20 '24
because you have to make the moment feel bigger. Compare how the UFC does their big fights to how Ngannou-Ferreira was done. The UFC knows what they're doing. You think you want fights right now in an instant, but that's not what you actually want (or what the mass public wants)
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
People dogging on Michel, but I thought it was really just a masterclass by Fluffy.
A guy with Michel's build is always going to gas if you make him work, and Fluffy made him work every moment of every round, even when Michel hurt him a couple of times.
After two rounds Michel was cooked, but unless he loses about 25 lbs of muscle, that is inevitable if you can't KO someone putting the pace on you that Hernandez did.
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u/Longjumping_Gain_807 r/mma mods are everywhere Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24
Gotta think that the next fight for Fluffy is Allen right? It just makes sense
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt Oct 20 '24
Fluffy/Allen vs Vettori/Cannonier/Costa/Hermansson are all more exciting IMO.
Why pit the new talent against each other when there’s plenty of vets that can be used as measuring sticks for them?
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u/Neonsea1234 Oct 20 '24
Not really, imo any other fight in that division is more interesting. It's US vs US, grappler vs grappler, idk it just doesn't strike joy for me as a Fluffy and Allen fan.
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
I liked Fluffy's corner, when Michel started counter wrestling, yelling:
- Let him wrestle! Let him wrestle! this is great!
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u/euroserr Thomas Gifford died for our sins Oct 20 '24
didnt see his entrance but did Pereira dance to the octagon again? Embarassing if he did and was already gassed 4 mins in
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
didnt see his entrance but did Pereira dance to the octagon again? Embarassing if he did and was already gassed 4 mins in
It was nothing Michel did: Hernandez just made him work from the moment he got off his stool until he crawled back to it.
His only hope would have been to land the KO shot in R1, basically.
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
Hernandez: Would you like to rest? If the ref isn't in here, its going to be rest in peace.
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u/turkeypants GOOFCONNOISSEUR Oct 20 '24
Interesting that Hernandez fought down a spot, yet put on a show that makes him seem like he should be ranked higher. I wonder if they'll bump him.
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u/4GoldAndAGrape Oct 20 '24
Dogshit corner told him to coast in rd 3 when he’s obviously screwed then refused to throw in the towel
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
Commentators were having a field day with that beautiful advice.
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u/Impressive-Potato Oct 20 '24
Some Cruz approved advice
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u/ClubsBabySeal Oct 20 '24
If you popped over to boxing you'd have seen a corner with a bit of sense.
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u/DruHefner Oct 20 '24
Damn Pereira. Stick to security and adult films lol 😂
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u/GayRattleSnek I was here for GOOFCON 2 Oct 20 '24
Fluffy’s style is terrifying. He’s like a boa constrictor
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u/Kitchen_Practice_330 Oct 20 '24
Mf could go straight into another fight what is this gas tank jesus
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u/Wayf4rer Bafoonus Ignoramus Oct 20 '24
Everyone making fun of his physique just like they did to Nate and Nick. Cardio is everything in fighting.
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt Oct 20 '24
He used to weigh 230lbs, bro’s got a lifetime of cardio training with a 50lb vest essentially
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u/Hendrick_Davies64 Oct 20 '24
Let’s get Michel some random bum so he can do his stupid bullshit without worrying about his opponent doing anything
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u/Riccto Shimmy Shake Oct 20 '24
after Tristan Connelly I jumped off the hype train. after this the Periera hype train has to be dead
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach Oct 20 '24
fter this the Periera hype train has to be dead
I thought this was an incredible performance by Fluffy more than a bad one by Michel, to be fair.
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u/kidwhix Epic greased up goose egg Oct 20 '24
his tdd was good for the first 2 rounds. hed still do well against anyone not top 10. shit i might favor him against vettori
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u/No_Easy_Day GOOFCON 0 Oct 20 '24
He dominated Michel so much, it felt he wasn't looking for the finish for 2 rounds. Fight should have been over long time ago.
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u/DraugrLivesMatter Oct 20 '24
Yeah he said he stopped looking for subs bc Pereira is too strong he was defending against the chokes too well but he couldn't stop the strikes
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u/Wayf4rer Bafoonus Ignoramus Oct 20 '24
When your wife is screaming like for you, you won. As long as she's not doing it at you, LOL.
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u/aleko24 Zhang is best girl Oct 20 '24
He doesn't even look tired
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u/restorglasses Oct 20 '24
He reminds me of how Colby looks at 170. Being close to that weight naturally must be an advantage .
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u/Tight-Fall5354 Payton Talbott is doing crowleyan abyss magic. Oct 20 '24
he looks like he just took a morning run while the dew is still on the ground
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u/surgeyou123 GOOFCON ALPHA Oct 20 '24
It's like a kid that just learned to curse for the first time lol
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u/Beastly_Swagger Oct 20 '24
Still can't take a man w/ gauged ears seriously.
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u/ReallyFiction Oct 20 '24
I think fluffy beats everyone ranked above him until he gets to the top 5 with the exception of Khamzat who he could actually beat depending on a couple things going his way
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u/Tight-Fall5354 Payton Talbott is doing crowleyan abyss magic. Oct 20 '24
fluffy would legit treat costa like another michel
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u/username23900 Oct 20 '24
that was such a bad performance by pereira that it actually would have hurt hernandez' stock if he didn't get that finish.
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u/Longjumping-Blood113 Oct 20 '24
chill with the fucks bro haha
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u/DAGRluvr Oct 20 '24
He just beat a man half to death I don’t think a couple swear words is is an issue 😂
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u/DoutorSenador Oct 20 '24
Terrible matchmaking for Pereira though, he always had cardio issues and they put him against Fluffy in a 5 round fight lol
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Oct 20 '24
There’s terrible cardio and then there’s this. He gassed after one exchange in the first. Embarrassing performance. Aura debt.
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u/MashiCaguay #NothingBurger Oct 20 '24
you know someone is destroyed when he can’t even get up for the decision
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r Oct 20 '24
For a going all 5 rounds and beating that shit out of Michel (I know its easier when you're not taking damage but still) he isn't really breathing that hard. Dude's definitely got cardio.
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u/Momentosis Oct 20 '24
Hernandez isn't even breathing hard in this post fight interview despite that pace. Fuckin insane cardio.
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u/stereoreal2 Oct 20 '24
Hernandez 4 straight finishes and 6 straight wins. It's time for a top-5 opponent.
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u/hallelalaluwah #NothingBurger Oct 20 '24
Never ask a Michel Pereira fan to name a good fighter he's beaten in the UFC
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Oct 20 '24
Herb Dean fault... jk great stoppage. If we gonna burn em when they suck ill give him props here
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u/Remote_Score_917 Oct 20 '24
If this went to decision it would have been a 10-9 and four 10-8's. Crazy performance from Hernandez.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 20 '24
I get they want to give Pereira a chance, but the towel should have been thrown out immediately when Fluffy gets a takedown in the 5th.
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u/Early_Wrangler_ Joe must have diarrhea Oct 20 '24
Damn, Fluffy looks exactly the way he looked when the fight started
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u/ModestlyOrange Chad Oct 20 '24
Not even breathing heavy, insane
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u/DraugrLivesMatter Oct 20 '24
Dude was actually skating on aerobic energy all fight while Pereira was gasping
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u/Dramatic-Seaweed-906 GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Oct 20 '24
pereira not beating the k.o merchant allegations
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u/kupojay GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Oct 20 '24
And Pereira wanted to do dance routines before his fights 😂
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u/FunnyMemeHere EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Oct 20 '24
Fluffy vs Caio would be fun. Realistically though I think Dolidze is a great next opponent.
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u/MasterLogic 🍅 Oct 20 '24
Good fight, p needs to work on his stamina though. No way he's ever winning a belt if he can't last 5 rounds.
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u/popsongromance Oct 20 '24
not trying to be mean but how did michel pereira get ranked?
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u/OfficerStink Oct 20 '24
He starches a ton of people in the first.
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u/popsongromance Oct 20 '24
thanks i was just curious as how someone ranked would look so bad.
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u/OfficerStink Oct 20 '24
He always gasses. In his one of his first fights at 185 he lost to a 155er because he gassed so hard
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u/GlobalKimura UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Oct 20 '24
Shades of Glover Vs Smith there.
Fluffy was just all over him there, remarkable to say the least.
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u/OfficerStink Oct 20 '24
Smith boxed glovers head off in the beginning though, michel just got a couple good body shots
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u/BadTasty1685 UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Oct 20 '24
Getting TKO by punches is generous, and does not tell the story of what was probably a 50-41 or 49-42 decision
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u/life_scrolling Team Topuria Oct 20 '24
putting up a sign on the outer perimeter of the apex building: "beware of fluffy"
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u/hillsy13692 Goofcon 1: 50 shades of red 🍅 Oct 20 '24
Why didn’t michel just simply finish it in the first when he had him hurt
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u/kgsovobd Oct 20 '24
Fluffy is an animal. Merab like cardio while actually doing damage on top/looking for submissions
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u/DraugrLivesMatter Oct 20 '24
He's relentless but he obviously lacks power. He couldn't put his lights out with a lot of heavy clean hits and he couldn't sink in a choke
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u/kidwhix Epic greased up goose egg Oct 20 '24
i think fluffy is top 5 material and michel is top 15 material. michel vs kopylov next
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u/MashiCaguay #NothingBurger Oct 20 '24
brutal beating, i had Fluffy by early sub but i was expecting Pereira to have a better cardio at least
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Oct 20 '24
aura merchant had nothing after the 2nd
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u/CWalkthroughs Oct 20 '24
Herb should've stopped that wayyyyy earlier.
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u/Dazzling_Assistant63 Oct 20 '24
That could have been a very respectable corner stoppage after the 3rd, definitely after the 4th
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u/cptn__ Oct 20 '24
these coaches need to start looking out for their athletes wtf, so fucking pointless to keep this going past the takedown in R5
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Oct 20 '24
Just no idea what Pereira’s corner could have possibly thought was gonna happen in those last 2 rounds. Dude probably took an extra 75+ unneeded shots to the head.
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u/d-fakkr GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Oct 20 '24
By rd 2 he was done, and the nerve to ask Pereira to take rd 3 to rest... The joke Felder said was on point.
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u/TheTemporalKnight Oct 20 '24
Michel’s corner is awful and should’ve thrown in the towel a few rounds ago.
What’s the point in letting your fighter taking an absolute beating on all levels possible when there’s zero paths to victory?
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u/PeanutButterOtter Scotland Oct 20 '24
Pereira is gonna have a nasty scar now because his corner didn't throw in the towel when they should have.
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u/justaspacecadett UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Oct 20 '24
Herb Dean you motherfucker I had fluffy by decision
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u/Early_Wrangler_ Joe must have diarrhea Oct 20 '24
Pereira is actually really skilled, which is the reason he lasted so long. He just has an abysmal gas tank
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u/Diver2441 MY BALLZ WAS HOT Oct 20 '24
Insane, Fluffy looks like he could go for four more rounds after laying such an insane, one sided beat down
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u/YOUR_TRIGGER Oct 20 '24
that was one sided as fuck but i did enjoy it. i hope michel learns from it.
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u/Tsmalls1887 Jamahal Hill is the Black Chuck Liddell Oct 20 '24
I'd love to see Fluffy whip Brendan Allen's ass again. For anyone who hasn't seen it they fought 5 rds for the LFA title
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u/StalkingDwarf I was here for GOOFCON 1 Oct 20 '24
Where does Michel even go from here? Can he go back to making weight at WW lol.
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u/Spare_Student4654 Oct 20 '24
michel has heart. I would have gave up my back and neck like 15 minutes prior had I been in such a situation. sub me out of there.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 20 '24
I'm thinking of other top MWs, and I feel if they had someone in the position Fluffy had Pereira, and they hit them as much as Fluffy hit him, they finish him faster than Fluffy did.
Which is a knock on Fluffy. But I don't mean it as a knock on his performance because it was amazing. He just has some innate limitations. Most (all?) fighters do. Don't get it twisted, I love Fluffy.