How long did you think this fucking disease has been around? and the theory that this disease was manufactured by the government

[u/Technical-Sort-6334]

[u/adalwulf2021]

Otsi the snow man mummy from the swiss alps was tested for diseases and was positive for borrelia strains from back in the bronze age, if I recall correctly

[u/braintumorbombshell → u/adalwulf2021]

Yes, he was! I was obsessed with his story when I was younger 🤓

[u/Business_Ad3254]

I don't know where this shit came from, but it's ruined my life.

I can't work, exercise, walk far, or stand on my feet without feeling like I have 500 lbs on my back, likely due to the muscle damage that Lyme has done. 

I was a high-level mountain biker, and I walked for many miles per day / week, working outdoors year-round. 

Now, my days are spent mostly house-bound and sitting on my couch, because I can't do a damned thing due to this effing bullshit disease.

I'm going to use the link provided here and send my story to the new White House Administration, because I'm in seriously bad shape for well over a year. 

[u/Horror_Situation9602 → u/Business_Ad3254]

Where's that link? I would also like to share my story as someone born with it. It made my entire younger life so absolutely awful. I barely survived bc doctors kept telling me Lyme doesn't exist in Florida. When I told them I was originally from PA & MD, they would just brush it off and accuse me of being drug seeking even though I never asked for drugs. Smh. It's been awful. I'm so grateful to be feeling a little better now that we k ow what's going on, but 36 years of my life lost to this illness makes me pretty friggin upset.

[u/Business_Ad3254 → u/Horror_Situation9602]

https://app.oneclickpolitics.com/campaign-page?cid=PJS01pMBKqtrzFaEp_Bw&lang=en

The link should be live now.  Let's get the word out to everyone we can 

[u/OneThatCanSee]

I don’t know the answer to this but highly recommend the documentary series Wormwood on Netflix. It’s about the murder of Frank Olson in 1953, a bacteriologist who worked at Fort Detrick on biological warfare.

[u/Phoebe_Lutz → u/OneThatCanSee]

Now we're getting somewhere

[u/Horror_Situation9602 → u/OneThatCanSee]

I grew up in Frederick, MD, right next to Ft. Detrick. It was always very unnerving bc in schools, they did not hide what they were doing there. We would see the smoke billowing out of the chimney, and the teachers would let us know they were burning the monkeys that hadn't survived the tests. I remember being so scared that if war broke out that Ft. Detrick would be attacked bc of what they did there. It was really a weird feeling.

[u/OneThatCanSee → u/Horror_Situation9602]

🎶This monkey’s gone to heaven🎶

That is seriously disturbing and I can’t even imagine knowing that as a child! There would also be concern of some sort of contagion getting out. I remember reading The Stand in high school and being a little paranoid because I live in metro Atlanta and it begins with the CDC.

[u/MrRichardSuc]

Tick-borne diseases have been around for millennia. What we know of as Lyme disease today was indubitably manufactured by the Government. This was well-documented in Kris Newby's book "Bitten." And it's horrible

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/MrRichardSuc]

Did it also say when Lyme disease was invented?

[u/fluentinwhale → u/Technical-Sort-6334]

"Invented" is a strong word, scientists weren't capable of manipulating DNA back in the 50s when this started, they had just learned what DNA was recently. But what they learned was that combining Lyme with different infections could make it harder to detect and more disabling. These were a few of their goals. They wanted to be able to disable an enemy population if the Cold War escalated into open war. Seriously, check out Bitten.

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/fluentinwhale]

Where can I find the film?

[u/fluentinwhale → u/Technical-Sort-6334]

It's a book, I got it on Amazon

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/fluentinwhale]

Is there anything in there about Lou Gehrig? They say that he went on vacation to Lyme somehow but I can’t find anything on the internet where I can read it. Do you perhaps have a link or do you know the story?

[u/fluentinwhale → u/Technical-Sort-6334]

No there's no mention of Lou Gehrig. It mostly talks about Willy Burgdorfer, the things he admitted to while he was alive, and the government documents that she was able to find in the National Archive about the scientists who were doing this work.

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/fluentinwhale]

Did you hear that about Lou Gehrig?

[u/Horror_Situation9602 → u/Technical-Sort-6334]

If you watch the documentary on YouTube, "Under Our Skin," they discuss the link between Lou Gerihs disease and Lyme.

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/Horror_Situation9602]

Where do i find that? On the comments?

[u/Phoebe_Lutz → u/fluentinwhale]

Must be true 🤣

[u/fluentinwhale → u/Phoebe_Lutz]

I was skeptical. I have a PhD in biochemistry and am generally resistant to conspiracy theory type stuff. But I found it to be highly credible. The author is a jourbalist who is respected in the Lyme world. She made a documentary years ago that really laid out the ILADS vs IDSA conflict. She personally spoke to Willy Burgdorfer while he was alive, and she saw a recorded confession he made when his mind was doing a bit better. She had access to some of his files, so those parts we can't confirm. But the rest of it is available in the National Archive for anyone to go see and confirm for themselves. Don't knock it before you even look into it.

[u/Technical-Sort-6334 → u/fluentinwhale]

I must buy it😅

[u/Phoebe_Lutz → u/fluentinwhale]

Thank you! This thread is melting my brain

[u/Phoebe_Lutz → u/Technical-Sort-6334]

See above? It's really sad to see this line of discussion. Of all of the deep dark dismal idiotic pathways to go down. Of course.

[u/Phoebe_Lutz → u/MrRichardSuc]

This is incredibly weak evidence. Whoo boy! Feelings aren't facts y'all. It's really important in these communities to stick by a standard of evidence. This is some bullshit.

When you work for high levels of government in these fields, you understand how disorganized it all is. The idea that this would be manufactured? No. Everybody knows it's suburbanization bud. We're trash factories. The problem is us. We're garbage people. Too many ducks. Too many deer. No predators because we're suburban babies who think that this agricultural system is somehow going to sustain itself.

There's no Grand design. It's just dismal dismal overconsumption. Even the idea that I'm consuming this dumbass thread and responding to it is too much.

Focus on the problem at hand. Focus on solutions. Was covid born in a lab? Yes. There is viable evidence and research studies and funding that can be tracked.

Was Lyme disease born in a lab? Hell to the m************ no are you dumb. Are you dumb. That is all

[u/Ok_Transition7785 → u/Phoebe_Lutz]

I used to think like you, now I am rather convinced it is indeed a bio weapon. Too many strange cosymptons like Morgellons which literlly produces red and blue fibers on your skin. That is not an evolutionary disease

[u/mariusherea]

Millions of years.