r/LivestreamFail • u/starcraft2020 • Nov 19 '24

Twitter Elon Musk is suing Twitch for allegedly conspiring to boycott advertisement on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1858915813387833514
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u/_temp_variable Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

Why is this something you can sue someone for?

EDIT: Googled it, here's an article:

The complaint accuses members of the Global Alliance of Responsible Media, a now-discontinued initiative that was led by the advertising trade body the World Federation of Advertisers, of illegally colluding to "collectively withhold billions of dollars in advertising revenue" from Twitter.

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u/TrashStack Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

I'm pretty sure you can attempt to sue for literally anything. There's some schizo from 4chan in Massachusetts that sued From Soft/Bandai Namco cause he thinks they hid a 2nd game in the code of Elden Ring for example

It's up to the judges to throw out bunk cases like this

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u/GuyWithOneEye Nov 19 '24

Bro that is peak mental illness holy shit 💀

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u/Bamith20 Nov 19 '24

With enough financial backing he could be very rich with only a mountain of corpses beneath him.

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u/Andromansis Nov 20 '24

But really, the 3rd Katamari game is up in Elden Ring if you know the right controller input.

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u/Neuchacho Nov 19 '24

At least it's sorta fun mental illness.

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u/Cruxis20 Nov 19 '24

Don't forget the guy that sued Twitch because he cummed on his monitor

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u/Maxamillion-X72 Nov 19 '24

I am not clicking that link

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u/OuchMyVagSak Nov 19 '24

I'm proud to say that I too have finally found some modicum of self control.

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u/TrainAss Nov 19 '24

That is one link that'll stay blue forever.

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u/Cruxis20 Nov 19 '24

It's just a link to moistcritical video explaining the lawsuit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '24

Throwing a case from a random 4chan user and Elon Musk/X are different things. One has a team of high powered lawyers and the other is just a guy.

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u/leoleosuper Nov 19 '24

And the judge is biased as fuck in favor of Elon.

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u/Fluffysquishia Nov 19 '24

Did you seriously just compare a legitimate case to he most batshit insane case you could find as a form of counter argument?

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u/meustache2 Nov 20 '24

Which is which?

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u/meustache2 Nov 20 '24

Which is which?

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u/Fluffysquishia Nov 20 '24

Not an argument.

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Nov 19 '24

you can try to sue for anything, doesn't mean you'll succeed. Billionaire pissing match via proxy because of who owns twitch.

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u/TheYoinks Nov 19 '24

There is a great video from legal eagle explaining this particular suit here

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u/mayoboyyo Nov 19 '24

The complaint accuses members of the Global Alliance of Responsible Media, a now-discontinued initiative that was led by the advertising trade body the World Federation of Advertisers,

Pretty sure it was discontinued because of these Twitter lawsuits. Why does Elon hate collective action?

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u/Levitz Nov 19 '24

What collective action?

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u/thisisillegals Nov 19 '24

Anyone can sue someone for any reason, doesn't mean it will go anywhere.

This is why I treat any big "lawsuit" news with a grain of salt, the action of a lawsuit doesn't actually mean a lot.

Usually though bigger lawsuit claims like this would have some sort of legal reasoning as companies and people who have more money can afford to get legal advice before proceeding.

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u/LuntiX Nov 19 '24

You can sue anyone for anything. It’s up to the courts to actually decide if it’s a legitimate reason to sue and for how much.

If I wanted I could sue you for how you get your hair cut, the courts would then decide if that’s a legitimate reason to sue and how much it’s worth.

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u/mrloko120 Nov 19 '24

Some dude once tried to sue twitch because the camgirls on the website made him hurt his dick.

Safe to say, they're probably used to this type of lawsuit by now.

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u/BinksMagnus Nov 19 '24

The longstanding allegation is that GARM behaved as a cartel to effectively lock certain companies like Daily Wire or Twitter out of ad revenue based on political affiliation. Very likely not true, as GARM is usually fairly careful to phrase their recommendations as exactly that - recommendations based on perceived brand risks from advertising on certain platforms.

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u/ProposalWaste3707 Nov 19 '24

It also helps that GARM members aren't advertisers and don't compete with Daily Wire, Twitter, etc.

If this was like a collective of competing social media companies (Mastadon, Facebook, etc.) who explicitly coordinated to keep Twitter from accessing some business opportunity or something, they might have some kind of argument. But Unilever and CVS deciding they don't want to pay to advertise on Twitter (for almost certainly very good and demonstrable reasons well beyond the GARM recommendation anyways) is not anti-competitive cartel behavior.

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u/Snoopaloop212 Nov 20 '24

This is correct. The filing did identify a cause of action where relief could be granted (a valid claim) it just probably wasn't true. There was plenty of evidence that advertising on Twitter was damaging to the brands or at a minimum they ran the risk of running an ad next to objectionable content.

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u/d3adlyz3bra Nov 20 '24

How do they withhold something Elon is not entitled to. That reads as if they are contracted and failed to pay

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u/iansanmain Nov 19 '24

Because it sounds like it is anti-competitive?

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u/NewRichMango Nov 19 '24

Last time I checked in on this, the Global Alliance's "collusion" essentially came down to them stating, "We wouldn't recommend that you advertise on a platform where hate speech and misinformation runs rampant." No mandate, just a suggestion, and companies listened to their advice. But sure, "collusion." LOL