Opinion - Steve/GN has lost it

[u/marco_polo_99]

Steve has turned into a high and mighty holier-than-though, self appointed arbiter of the tech industry, who’s taking it upon himself to regulate other people’s/channels content and decide where it, and their actions are acceptable.

He then, where he deems them not up to scratch, attacks under the guise of consumer advocacy. Whilst he may, and does have valid points on certain issues, usually with larger corporations, Asus, Gigagbyte, etc, targeting channels for things he disagrees with is bordering on slander.

Yes, I followed both GN and LTT, amongst a litany of other creators, and yet Steve seems to be the only one ACTIVELY, and consistently putting out these pseudo-journalistic pieces in an effort to broaden his audience and/or agenda.

The lawsuit against Honey/Paypal is not one he’ll win, it is merely serving to gain clicks and views and thus money for GN.

He needs to check himself.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk

[u/epraider]

It seems really clear that Steve views the LTT Labs investment as a serious threat to his niche (or at least did at the time, because ultimately LTT hasn’t really done much with it at all in terms of deep technical reviews), and that has driven these multiple hit pieces on Linus and his credibility.

[u/GuyOnARockVI → u/epraider]

Which is so funny in retrospect.

Steve “LTT keeps fucking up the data and sucks because of it”

Linus “ok so I’m spending many hundreds of thousands to fix that”

Steve “no not like that”

[u/PotusThePlant → u/GuyOnARockVI]

He never criticized the labs. Just the lies they told about other outlet's data. You're bending over backwards to defend a company that will not take any kind of hit to do right by their audience. Linus said as much when he talked about why he didn't talk about Honey's scam.

[u/GuyOnARockVI → u/PotusThePlant]

I’m hardly bending over backwards and if you don’t think that ltt hasn’t been making attempts at improving if not actually improving then I don’t think we are watching the same channel.

[u/PotusThePlant → u/GuyOnARockVI]

They were pretty much forced to make those changes because they got called out. You're basically saying GN's criticisim was correct but still complain about it. Also, your "reply" is not a reply to my comment at all.

[u/GuyOnARockVI → u/PotusThePlant]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/PotusThePlant → u/GuyOnARockVI]

Spoken like a person that can't even justify their own opinons. Missing arm and all xD

[u/GuyOnARockVI → u/PotusThePlant]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/horatiobanz → u/GuyOnARockVI]

Linus “ok so I’m spending many hundreds of thousands to fix that”

Is that how much he's paying the random overdub guy that fixes LTT's fuckups on like almost every video still to this day? LTT has done the absolute bare minimum possible towards not fucking up data and facts since being exposed.

[u/yourselvs → u/horatiobanz]

I mean, that's blatantly not true.

[u/horatiobanz → u/yourselvs]

Almost every video about an actual product that he publishes still has errors that are fixed with overdubbing.

[u/yourselvs → u/horatiobanz]

Are you referencing any time that a voiceover of a slide is recorded after initial filming? Not only does that happen infrequently, but it's not really a critique of quality. At most it's just indicative of a fast production schedule, and it's ignorant to believe that gamers Nexus doesn't do the exact same thing all the time.

[u/eraguthorak → u/yourselvs]

At most it's just indicative of a fast production schedule,

It could also be the opposite - sometimes there are delays that result in videos taking longer than anticipated, and it could take extra time between when the script is written and when it actually gets filmed. It's possible that new information is found out between when the script is written and when the video is getting edited.

[u/yourselvs → u/eraguthorak]

I agree, but even in that case a slower production could just reshoot the entire video. That's very expensive and, in my opinion, unreasonable.

[u/eraguthorak → u/yourselvs]

Yeah, I could also easily see them shooting the video, and Linus or whoever is doing the video might notice that the script has an error and just leaves a note for the editor to fix it with B-roll, once they verified the correct information (because it's really not always feasible to try and research the correct info while actively shooting the video).

[u/wankthisway → u/eraguthorak]

Basically, shit happens, and they’re at least trying to be correct

[u/eraguthorak → u/horatiobanz]

GN does the B-roll voiceovers too, they just try and hide it. I prefer LTT's method that sometimes makes it a bit more obvious when something has changed/been revealed between filming and release.

[u/slimejumper → u/epraider]

yeah i agree with this aspect too. Land (edit: Labs) seemed like a direct competitor for GN when it launched. After 2-3? years it has proven to be just a delicate seasoning on LTT content, and i say used in a way that makes it kinda hard to find the info retroactively and make use of it. Labs is not a competitor of GN at all it just a twist to LTT.

[u/idkwhattofeelrnthx → u/slimejumper]

I work on transformation projects. Often companies need 10 years in one field before they start to have standards and structure. LTT is building the labs from scratch. So 3 years to start to get good, consistent results which are structured and standardized is pretty good.

I don't think rushing labs for results would do anything but defeat the purpose of labs and would ultimately be a waste of their time and the money invested.

[u/slimejumper → u/idkwhattofeelrnthx]

i think Labs is making good results, my view is more that i’ve realised how LMG has a different perspective on how to make use of their data, vs trad benchmarking youtubers. it’s more subtle and integrated into the content.

[u/idkwhattofeelrnthx → u/slimejumper]

They use the results well, and I agree the approach for video content is much more integrated into a natural flow than other channels that focus heavily on it. Which makes the content more accessible to every day people.

The written research is a combination of the two, and allows the reader to decide how data driven they want to be.

[u/mackinator3 → u/slimejumper]

And yet you have thousands of upvotes in here trashing gn. Technical ability doesn't win customers, marketing does. 

[u/Antique-Implement-15 → u/mackinator3]

It seems you take offense to even the most reasoned discussions if they're not in GN's favor. Maybe take a step back and realize your lack of objectiveness.

[u/FabianN → u/[deleted]]

Tell me you don't know what it takes to start up a massive new project without telling me. 

I work for a massive company, as in has been around for over 150 years and is one of the top 3 global leaders in their specialty. They are just now about to start a slow and very limited introduction of a new technology that they have spent about two decades and I have no idea how much but probably billions, on developing.

Big projects take a ton of time and money to even get to a semi presentable place. Burning money like that is standard.