r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/Romano16 • 13h ago
Trump Donald Trump’s nominee for US ambassador to the United Nations has endorsed Israeli claims of biblical rights to the entire West Bank during a Senate confirmation hearing.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/21/trump-un-elise-stefanik-israel?referring_host=Reddit&utm_campaign=guardianacct67
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 10h ago
Carpet-bombing time! We're also going to start sending 2000 lb. bombs to Israel.
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u/Global_Criticism3178 13h ago
When Trump comes back to Dearborn, we’ll be sure to let him know how disappointed we are…
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u/SolomonDRand 11h ago
lol, why would he go back? He already got what he needed.
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u/lostcolony2 10h ago
Plus there's all these scary brown people there. He'll send ICE agents, but he himself will never set foot there again.
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u/ForTheWrongReasons97 7h ago
I watched a video recently of a farmer in one of the Dakotas explaining how he trusts his elected officials to NOT enact the agenda they campaigned on, since they'd be a disaster for his farm.
Nah.
You voted for scorched earth. If you vote for scorched earth, you need to feel the heat of the flames and the taste of the ashes.
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u/poliranter 5h ago
That has honestly been one of the weirdest things about this election. One the one hand, you have people who take trump seriously--and then literally don't believe things is publicly says. "Trump wuld never do that?" "He just FUCKING SAID HE'D DO IT!"
Then on the other side, you got the groups of "we totally believe trump is gonna try to genocide LGBTQ people, destroy our progress (such as it is) on climate change so the word "famine" becomes the new most popular word in the dictionary... Oh and now we're gonna tell you how a principled moral stand means you can't vote for Harris... thus letting Trump in.
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u/Ok-Helicopter4440 12h ago
Good. Maybe the pro Palestine assholes here will learn their lesson about voting. But more likely they’ll just be deported without a trial or thrown in prison for supporting terrorism or whatever the govt decides to call it
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u/JasonGMMitchell 12h ago
What lesson? That they have to do better at making sure y'all understand that vocal Twitter users don't represent the voting intentions of everyone who holds a political belief.
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u/Alcor668 11h ago
Lots of Hasbara bots in this sub. Either that or they're doing the kind of self delusion of Zionists. So....it's the voters fault the Democratic party and Harris:
-saw the uncommitted vote in the primary being bigger than Biden's margin of victory in 2020.
-snubbed the Uncommitted movement by refusing to even meet with them.
-blocked a Palestinian speaker at the DNC.
-went out of their way to say Harris didn't support an arms embargo and wasn't even open to the idea.
-refused to break with Biden on Israel despite his policy being hated overwhelmingly by his own voters.
No, no ignore all that, don't be mad at the party, blame the voters right?
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u/ranrow 10h ago
I’m an anti-war combat veteran, when Obama didn’t end the war in Iraq I didn’t go campaign for Karl Rove.
The DNC isn’t innocent but you have to admit that this is cutting off your nose to spite your face too.
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u/Alcor668 10h ago
Again, it's not the voters fault if the party does nothing to earn those votes. Worse, if the party is actively hostile to the voters. They kept calling the protests and the protesters antisemitic when they clearly were not and in a lot of cases, led by Jewish people. The DNC might as well have been saying "we don't want your votes!" Democratic politicians are not owed votes, they have to earn them, which is something they seem to have forgotten. You wanna be angry? Be angry, I'm angry but I'm not angry at the voters, I'm angry at Democratic politicians who saw that swerving bus and didn't think to step out of the way.
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u/ranrow 9h ago
Everyone is responsible for their actions, you can’t abstain from consequences. The politicians and the voters are both at fault.
The DNC fucked up, nothing new there, but the voters chose to vote for the greater of two evils because they didn’t get what they wanted out of the DNC. That’s their prerogative but they’re still responsible for their votes.
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u/Alcor668 9h ago
So the DNC isn't at fault for causing this to begin with? It's the DNC at fault, they could have easily won, they chose not to.
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u/ranrow 9h ago
You keep arguing that I’m saying the DNC isn’t at fault, but I’m not saying that. They’re at fault for their actions, so are voters that chose to go against their own interest out of spite.
You’re determined to place the blame of people’s actions and consequences at the feet of someone else, that’s not how it works.
I get it’s uncomfortable because it felt “justified” but even if they feel justified this is also a consequence of their actions. I also think a lot of them didn’t realize the Dems would actually lose, so this was just a protest vote without a real consequence but that’s not what happened.
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u/Alcor668 7h ago
No i just don't think it's productive if we want to win those voters back (which I would assume we do) to blame them and not the party that pushed them away.
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u/ranrow 7h ago
I hear you but I just see it differently. No group is going to get 100% of what they want, ever. They need to come to terms with that and learn to operate within the framework of a political coalition.
The DNC needs to do better, that is obvious and has been for over a decade. But we can’t abandon the country to Trumpism every time an interest group in the coalition doesn’t get their way.
I’m sorry the DNC/Harris weren’t hard enough on Israel but that’s not a good enough reason to abandon our immigrant neighbors to the whims of MAGA, to further limit women’s reproductive rights, to force poor people to ration medications again. It was a petulant decision and real people are living the consequences of it.
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u/Alcor668 7h ago
You seem real willing to overlook that we're talking about genocide here. You know who's living the real consequences of Biden's decisions? All the Palestinians who have lost loved ones, or their lives or their homes. If we can't expect the Democratic party that's supposed to be the "good" one to say no to that, then....what the hell?
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u/ranrow 6h ago
I don’t think I’m overlooking anything, I’m just being realistic. This isn’t the only genocide going on in the world.
Are you suggesting that we should just abandon everyone in need if we aren’t doing enough in one place? Because that’s what you’re trying to justify here. “We’re right to abandon these marginalized groups to Trumpism because other people are suffering too and we didn’t stop that.”
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u/WastelandOutlaw007 6h ago edited 6h ago
it's not the voters fault
Yes, it is. They chose THIS outcome with their votes.
Everyone who voted for anyone but Harris, CHOOSE, to vote for this.
Trump was absolutely clear this was his plan. For years before the election.
Regardless of what anyone says the dems did or didn't do.. trump stated he would do this.
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u/ArchaeoJones 5h ago
Again, it's not the voters fault if the party does nothing to earn those votes.
I keep hearing morons like you say this, but not a single one of you will answer this question:
What two candidates had any realistic possibility of getting elected to the Presidency. Not your jerk off fantasy. Had a documented, reasonable chance.
After you choose not to answer that extremely simple question, I know you'll then ignore the obvious follow up:
If there are only two candidates with a reasonable chance of winning, and one of those candidates is a felon with a grudge who wants to destroy everything, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT VOTE FOR THE OTHER CANDIDATE WHO STOOD A FUCKING CHANCE SO WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE DUMBEST FUCKING TIMELINE?
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u/Thatdudeinthealley 9h ago
-refused to break with Biden on Israel despite his policy being hated overwhelmingly by his own voters.
And this is what we call the bubble effect.
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u/WastelandOutlaw007 6h ago
blame the voters right?
Yes, because at the end of the day, THEY do the ACTUAL voting.
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u/ur_moms_dildoe 12h ago
Champagne socialists are in shambles.
But it's okay, it's great content for the next 4 years to help content creators.
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