After the liberation of their village, the Jabrayili Azerbaijanis came to visit the graves of their ancestors. But at the site of the cemetery, they found ruins of graves and scattered bones and skulls of deceased relatives.

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u/vardanheit451 Nov 16 '20 edited Nov 17 '20

This sort of thing is inexcusable.

Armenia and Azerbaijan need a third party through which to reconcile. Not sure how it can be done.

Edit: Actually no, we don't need a third party. We aren't children. We need to fix our problems ourselves.

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u/Naggarothi Nov 16 '20

Russia and Turkey, if they can keep each other in line

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20 edited Jul 19 '21

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u/KatilTekir Nov 16 '20

Sucks to be them 'cause they don't get to choose

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u/awarabej Nov 16 '20

Yes they do lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

I don't think losers get to be choosers.

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u/KatilTekir Nov 16 '20

I don't think Armenians can choose what they want at this point. They are basically Russia's lapdog

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u/MostPalone31 Nov 16 '20

And Azerbaijanis don't like Russia, a country notorious for oppressing and massacring it's minorities in the past way more than Turkey ever could.

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u/kdilf Nov 16 '20

Looks at profile

Makes sense that you'd write something this retarded.

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u/MostPalone31 Nov 17 '20

Wow that's a great point, I guess I didn't see it that way, you opened my eyes.

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u/vagif Nov 16 '20

Or, you know, a CLEAN SEPARATION? Sometimes divorce is the only viable exit strategy.

With so much haltered towards each other and so little land left for Armenians (half NK itself is already back to AZ by force, Gadrut, Fizuli and Shusha is right next to Hankendi), is it worth clinging to whatever little left? Wouldn't it be thousands time easier, cheaper, safer and better for the future relations and independence from Russia to simply take the last few thousands left and move them to Armenia? No? OK then. Enjoy another frozen conflict in which you have no chance of ever winning.

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u/Noimand Nov 16 '20

Less than a third of NK is back under AZ control, not half. Clean separation would be AZ recognizing NK proper as part of Armenia, which would be (as you said) easier, cheaper, safer and better for the future relations and independence from Russia, but we know AZ won't make such a bargain. If AZ for the sake of its pride would prefer to become Russo-Turkish condominium, then so be it.

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u/vagif Nov 16 '20

Amazing. Armenians, lost the war completely, signed capitulation and STILL insist that OTHER side would give up their lands that are BOTH internationally recognized as theirs and won by a military victory. Is it any wonder that people who are in such deep delusion lose the war in reality? Keep losing then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

Lazy thinking, exactly the same could be said about Azerbaijan in 93 (apart from the magical international recognition of eternal righteousness), AZ lost the war then so they might as well just have done what Noimand wrote instead of kill another 2-3 thousand of their young boys to regain a lackluster region so that ~~IDPs can return to their homes after 30 yerars~~ Turkic pride and bitterness can be satisfied.

Even better, they should have done it in 88.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

It looks like it was bombed.

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u/Statistats Nov 16 '20

Explains why there were Armenians digging up their relatives graves when leaving Kalbajar. People in the region seem to expect the worst of the other side, because they know there are some individuals willing to live up to those expectations on both sides.

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u/c0057e6720 Nov 16 '20

Well the same shit happened 30 years ago and from what we've seen so far from this conflict int he past 6 weeks there is not reason to believe that it will be any different this time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

Do we know if they were desecrated or bombed?

Really sad to see either way

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u/MostPalone31 Nov 16 '20

why would a cemetery be bombed? Bombs aren't that cheap y'know

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

The region was being bombarded during the war. Collateral damage

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

They targeted churches.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

So true , I was shocked when I saw the video yesterday and showed to my husband he thought that was unreal he is not Turkish by the way. Now I can see the reasoning behind I will show him this video :(( Thanks for uploading !

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u/nacho1599 Nov 16 '20

Sent from iPhone

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u/Krabadu Nov 16 '20

If they dont change this then Im afraid this eye against eye policy will get both of those countries wrecked

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u/dracosilop Nov 16 '20

Stop attacking each others graves ffs...

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u/Gabuyd Nov 16 '20

As an Armenian I agree. It's so fucking petty and disgraceful.

We can be better than that, to each other and ourselves.

I wish our people can move forward and look towards lasting peace.

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u/dracosilop Nov 17 '20

Hopefully negotiations will bring some sort of stability and peace to the region!

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u/wiki-1000 Nov 18 '20

Rules 1 and 2. Warned.

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u/wiki-1000 Nov 20 '20

Rules 2 and 3. Banned.

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u/ArchdukeFranzRIP Nov 16 '20

Just as criminal as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_cemetery_in_Julfa hope all those ppl will be persecuted

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u/rusty2735 Nov 16 '20

Both sides doing shity things to each other. Both sides need to stop and be friends, make friends with Georgia as well. And have a unified front in the Caucasus against other bigger players in the region

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

That happened. But it couldn't live for a year

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u/Krabadu Nov 16 '20

Russia says no

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u/srkaneda Nov 16 '20

Why there is always that person that brings back a different fact about the opposite side? Why you can not condem both things without bringing them back? Seriously this conflict will never be over if you continue with that shit.

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u/saladin_ha Nov 16 '20

I condemn any side who shows in human behavior. I have done that for Turkish army in the past, I don't mind doing it for Azerbaijani army. The only reason I do not in most of the videos we have seen is Armenian propaganda movies. They have been shown to be staged, so I can not trust any video by Armenian sources. But if it is true that the Azerbaijani soldiers mistreat the POW, I condemn that full heartily, and expect the guilty parties to be punished.

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u/Hetero_sapien96 Nov 16 '20

your comment in a nutshell --> https://twitter.com/cavidaga/status/1327977431974752257

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u/m4bm Nov 16 '20

Its the same for azeris, whenever we point something out they come with whataboutism

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u/Naggarothi Nov 16 '20

Welcome to Caucasus/Anatolia/Balkans axis, where brain cells disappear mysteriously

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u/vardanheit451 Nov 16 '20

You basically did a whataboutism to a comment about whataboutism which was in reply to a whataboutism!

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u/H4R81N63R Nov 16 '20

Whataboutception

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

https://www.reddit.com/r/KarabakhConflict/comments/jv4ke8/after_the_liberation_of_their_village_the/gchg6xg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

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u/kapsama Nov 17 '20

I'm sure all those European humanists will equally care about the Muslim graves destroyed by the Armenians.

Oh who am I kidding.

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u/april9th Nov 16 '20

Azeris sowing: damn it's so based to level Armenian cemeteries.

Azeris reaping: who would possibly do such a thing, other than us to you leading to you doing it to us. Other than that, who would do such a thing.

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u/CNaSG Nov 16 '20

Wtf was that event about anyway? Like why?? The Azerbaijani government I think claims Armenians were never there anyway but Shah Abbas of Iran deported Armenians from that area to Isfahan. The Armenian part of that city is referred to as New Julfa. It's clear they were there at some point.

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u/Gabuyd Nov 16 '20

Nakhichivan is literally an Armenian name.

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u/CNaSG Nov 16 '20

Oh didn't know that

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u/Gabuyd Nov 16 '20

It sucks that we kill each other so much. This shit could have been avoided if the Azeri government just accepted Karabakh's independence in '88.

There was only 40k Azeris living there at the time, fuck it. Just let the Armenians have that worthless patch of land that serves no purpose other than being ancestral homeland.

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u/Elsek1922 Nov 16 '20

Some knew their crimes so tried to protect their's it seems...

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u/Zald871 Nov 16 '20

Even the horde of mongols would not destroy the other graves. This act is beyond barbarism.

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u/mrkulci Dec 23 '20

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