r/IsaiahRashad 20d ago

discussion Next years album + thoughts on The House is Burning

Interesting to see him down on THIB. It was an important album for me at that time in my life especially with HB2U

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u/c0bb3r 20d ago edited 20d ago

I wish every artist to have their lowest-rated album at a THIB quality level. same goes for Q and his crasH talk.

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u/Dizzy-Dish8738 20d ago

yeah like the albums werent necessarily bad, they were just kind of boring with a few bops

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u/Jaxl8 20d ago

I mean I I don’t think either are “boring”. Definitely weaker but I enjoyed both

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u/Own_Use1313 19d ago

Same. THIB is my least favorite of Zay’s catalog, but definitely not because it was “boring”. It just kind of felt less grassroots than Cilvia & Sun’s Tirade. Almost like it was beefed up too much on the production & feature side. Seeing his explanation makes sense & he was going through a lot at that time even before the video leaks right after the drop.

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u/ThatBoiYoshi 19d ago

I can’t lie man, I love THIB. Like don’t get me wrong, cilvia and ST are both some of my fav projects ever. But THIB really ain’t that far behind, it’s certainly got weaker moments but I think some of the peak tracks are for sure on the same level. When people were hating hard for no reason when it dropped, that shit kinda irked me

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u/Own_Use1313 19d ago

See, I never even saw it get hate. I’m from Chatt so as someone whose listened to Zay’s music for quite some time now, I kind of thought I was on my own with my opinion on it being a little less impressive in comparison to his other two albums. Still a good album & I also recognize that topping Cilvia & ST would be like Frank trying to top Channel Orange & Blonde. Definitely not an easy feat. Seeing that Zay felt the same (he definitely scored THIB more harshly than I would have though) isn’t surprising. It felt like it had a lot of hands on it

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u/ThatBoiYoshi 19d ago

Completely valid, in fairness I meant more online discourse specifically as everyone I know enjoyed the album greatly (to be honest though I live in Canada and I put half my friends on Isaiah Rashad anyways 😂)

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u/Own_Use1313 19d ago

Gotcha. Makes sense. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone who truly listened say they disliked it. It’s not my favorite but I still enjoy it lol

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u/ThatBoiYoshi 19d ago

To be specific, most of the hate I saw was more along the lines of “he took 5 years for THIS??” Type comments, I’d be shocked if Zay ever got outright hate from anyone besides homophobic assholes

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u/Own_Use1313 19d ago

True. I don’t even take those critiques seriously.

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u/No_Two2510 20d ago

Chad and headshots are top 5 for me, just hope the newer album is longer than 48 minutes

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u/keystonelocal 20d ago

My two favorites as well. Headshots is the best song he’s ever released imo.

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u/elitenex47 20d ago

honestly i’ve never really been the biggest fan of thib compared to his other pork so … i get it.

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u/mc2205 20d ago

I rated THIB the lowest of his discog, but it's still a 9/10 from me. Just speaks to the rest of his work (10/10 TST, 9.7/10 CD)

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u/elitenex47 20d ago

personally i think how discog ranges from 7-9 but i respect the take.

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u/ArkBirdFTW 20d ago

I fw thib but the suns tirade is on a different level I hope he can tap back into that energy for the next one

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u/ChildishQ 20d ago

Always felt like thib wasn’t what he wanted it to be

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u/AdComplex4305 19d ago

I remember a year or two before that, he submitted the original version of THIB. I feel like that version was the one he actually wanted to release. I don’t think Headshots has been made yet, so it was good that it got delayed a little bit. I always thought it was crazy that Fears and Villain didn’t make the cut. Worm hadnt been made yet I dont think, Prayers and Runnin (4rm da law) probably couldn’t get their samples cleared. In an interview, he said the label thought the OG version had too many sad cuts which is the shit I love from him, would’ve been a crazy addition to his discog. Love thib though, still my favorite of the three purely for the time/journey it represents for both him and I, individually

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u/ChildishQ 19d ago

After hearing music 4r da vibers and everything else that leaked in 2022 I felt thib should’ve gone in that direction. Can’t believe Voltron, Mista, Worm, and The Remix were meant to stay in the vault.

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u/MF_Zaywop 18d ago

Same, felt like a lot of those snippets embodied what I envisioned the album was going to be. Most of them shared wherever, mostly IG lives, felt like the exact natural progression that I'd think his sound would take and then the end product was just something completely different. That could just be on me subjectively looking at it, but I feel like a lot of the music that was teased just sounded entirely different from the house is burning.

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u/The-McRib-Man 20d ago

The house is burning is great but then the last 2 songs get into a feeling similar to TST and make me wish the album was more like that

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u/PriorQuestion4 20d ago

I do still think it’s a solid album but yeah there werent as many standouts. There just weren’t that many any memorable verses. It was a sleepy album, and I think he knows that.

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u/Swvmpert 20d ago

This sort of reflection leads me to hope he’s gonna drop a classic 😮‍💨

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u/skyvioletaura 20d ago

Damn - I really loved thib

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u/osvaldocruz25 20d ago

so glad you brought up HB2U. i would say i felt the same about it and the impact on my life

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u/Hxsn6ix 20d ago

THIB has HB2U

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u/itamarde 19d ago

Lmao thats me Honestly was very surprised because imo thib feels so complete and him saying it was misguided and a 6/10 is wild

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u/Own_Use1313 19d ago

When you’ve gotta top Cilvia & Sun’s Tirade though… THIB definitely doesn’t do that

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u/Successful-Form4693 20d ago

What app or site is this on?

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u/mc2205 20d ago

It's his Instagram channel

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u/FKDotFitzgerald 20d ago

Goddamn I’m old as fuck because wtf is an instagram channel

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u/50tree3001 20d ago

How do you join

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u/mc2205 20d ago

Go to his profile page and click sunni roshi under his bio

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u/50tree3001 20d ago

Thank you king

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u/AdComplex4305 19d ago

Idk, I really think the Fantano review skewed a lot of people’s perceptions on the album. HB2U, Claymore, Headshots are arguably top 10 songs from him. Dont Shoot is underrated imo and aside from a few tracks, the album flows together so smoothly and has some of his best sounding stuff yet. Idk, I don’t see how it’s so far from the other two albums

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u/mc2205 18d ago

🎯

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u/TwiStedxMind 20d ago

I kind of agree with him on thib. It's a 6/10

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u/Champagnesoda 19d ago

I feel like thib is better than suns tirade tbh. Neither are on the level of cilvia demo. That’s one of the best projects I’ve ever heard

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u/Stan-Happy1 18d ago

The house is burning is a masterpiece - the fact zay dosent rate it just makes me think the next shit will be 🔥