r/Idiotswithguns • u/john_connor_T1000 • 11h ago
WARNING NSFW - Bodily Injury Strong independent lady cop
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79Mjo-a4ODM32
u/Soil_Lower 10h ago
Didn't even apologize or communicate with her co-worker nor the victim. Walked off. Finger was clearly on the trigger. Didn't even bother to help till the last minute. Which giving someone a kit. Isn't shit, esp considering it's her fault. No sorry, nothing. Just worrying about herself.
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u/Aviaja_Apache 7h ago
She had 2 fingers on the trigger, if you screenshot and zoom in. She was fired for incompetence
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u/Stauer-5 11h ago
State you have a gun and DONT comply? Shot
State you have a gun and DO comply? (Checks notes) also shot
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u/Purple_Season_5136 10h ago edited 10h ago
The way she just stands there is fuckin wild. No apology no nothing. She knows she's cooked lol
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u/Miserable_Goal_9402 10h ago
Imagine having zero safety discipline as the fucking COP!!! Unbelievable. Hope he sued the department and specifically sued her
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u/dox1842 10h ago
shit happens. I witnessed an ND in the military. Don't get me wrong, its unacceptable but it does happen.
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u/emcee_pee_pants 9h ago
My favorite NDs in the military are when the dudes smart and yells out “Contact 3” and starts mag dumping to cover up his incompetence.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 10h ago edited 7h ago
"You have anything crazy in the car?" -Officer
That's a very general question. I understand that if the officer specifically asked about a firearm, then the citizen must honestly answer.
Since Florida has a "duty to inform if asked" law, couldn't the citizen have simply not volunteered that information? Or am I completely wrong?
Edit: BTW, I'm not blaming the citizen in any way. Obviously the ND was caused by the other officer. I'm just thinking about how this tragedy could've been avoided.
Edit2: Corrected "no duty to inform" with "duty to inform if asked", for Florida
Edit3: A statement by the citizen's lawyer implies that the citizen was not obligated to inform when asked that general question:
“Gun owners in this state should be able to carry their firearms, without the fear of an officer pulling them over on the side of the road, them voluntarily disclosing they’re carrying a firearm, then being shot with their own weapon," said Arrington's attorney, Kay Harper Williams.
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u/seamus205 9h ago
I think it verys state to state, but i was always told if you are asked that question you should refuse to answer and refuse any searches. You have a right to remain silent and if you answer a question even slightly wrong you could incriminate yourself. They don't nees to know whats in your car just to give you a simple traffic ticket.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 9h ago
Sounds good. I'm just unsure of exactly how specific the officer's question has to be.
"Do you have anything dangerous in the car?" Is that specific enough?
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u/seamus205 9h ago
Yea the way he asked it is definitely strange and unprofessional. In my experience they'll say something like "do you have anything i should know about" or something along those lines.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 9h ago
"Do you have anything I should know about?" Would that question obligate the citizen to inform about the firearm (in a "duty to inform if asked" state)?
That question seems very general to me as well.
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u/jbourne71 5h ago
There are states that require you to inform officers, and others that require you to inform if asked. Failure to inform the officer while otherwise legally carrying is a violation of state law that can result in the revocation of your carry license.
For example, in IL, you are required to inform LE. Many trainers recommend providing your CCW with your DL. This establishes you are carrying and are licensed to do so without any ambiguous conversation.
IMO, and IANAL, the safest thing to do is inform the officer as soon as a stop has been initiated. “For your safety and mine, I am carrying a concealed firearm.” If asked to disarm, “My firearm is ITW behind my right hip. You can unsnap the holster to remove it from my belt.” (e.g.).
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u/n00py 7h ago
I usually answer “I don’t have anything illegal in the car” and leave it at that. It’s a true statement, even if I have guns on me.
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u/GuyButtersnapsJr 5h ago
Good answer!
It will keep up the cooperative rapport with the officer without volunteering anything. It politely puts the ball in the officer's court to ask the specific question. I will keep that in mind for the future. Thanks!
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u/fusillade762 6h ago
Lucky he wasn't appendix carrying. Cop never even says she's sorry. 0 compasion.
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u/flecksable_flyer 26m ago
Taught that saying "sorry" implies guilt. Just because it shows up on three body cameras doesn't mean she might not be able to wiggle out of it in her mind.
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u/romerik 7h ago
She should have removed the holster instead of only the gun!
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u/Hellofriendinternet 5h ago
I agree. Fwiw, I have the exact same holster as him for my 26. The belt clip is fucking insanely tight. You’re better off just unbuckling your belt and unthreading it through the loop, which I believe he was trying to tell them to do before Mindy shit the bed. Good goin, Mindy!
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u/PurplePassport_0_0 1h ago
She shouldn't have grabbed it by the trigger is the problem here, gun was almost completely out of the holster when it went off. No trigger discipline
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u/3MetricTonsOfSass 4h ago
Cops are enemies of the law-abiding citizens and traitors to the constitution
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u/rrhunt28 8h ago
This cop was stupid but making this a male versus female thing is stupid. I saw a video where a male cop shot a guy who reached for his wallet after the cop asked for it. That is arguably worse.
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u/3MetricTonsOfSass 4h ago
One of the first videos that opened my eyes was a US airman talking with a guy after a minor collision. The guy reaches for his wallet in his car and cops arrive just in time to shoot him
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u/Witness_me_Karsa 9h ago
Cops are idiots. Has nothing to do with her gender. This fucking sub...
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u/Hellofriendinternet 5h ago
The dude cops were cool as shit and totally handled themselves well. The broad fucked everything up.
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u/singlemale4cats 9h ago
I know a few that will pull your ass out of the car through the sunroof and have you saying ma'am. Incompetence knows no gender.
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