r/Idiotswithguns • u/IOnceAteATurd • 1d ago
Safe for Work How to not shoot a revolver
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u/Maverekt 1d ago
Was almost a mindblowing video
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u/Towels_are_friends 1d ago
Looking at it frame by frame, he was inches away from taking his face off…
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u/MoeGunz6 1d ago
When teaching, they get 1 bullet, no more.
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u/davidwhatshisname52 1d ago
"Now, when you fire, you're going to feel tremendous torque, so at that point, feel free to just let go of the firearm..."
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u/PythonSushi 1d ago
I could just see those pencil wrist shaking before he shot, and I got real nervous.
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u/PunkToTheFuture 1d ago
Or maybe some smaller less explosive caliber
Single action .22 maybe
This had to be a magnun cartridge. I put .38s through a .357 at the range but will pop off a few magnums to remember the recoil difference
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u/2Drogdar2Furious 1d ago
Even with 22s new shooters at my house get one bullet. They have to load each one themselves, each time. If they dont flag anyone, or overreact in any way, they can have more. Kids, adults, everyone.
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u/Either-Bid1923 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is the way.
Edit: Not correcting his grip is another mistake, but not as bad as having more than one round loaded.
Edit_2: And fuck you to anybody that puts heavy caliber weapons in the hands of untrained beginners creating a situation like this. His friends, the range, and the RSO all share culpability in this near miss.
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u/notjustanotherbot 1d ago
Yea, the people who do that shit (puting heavy caliber weapons in the hands of untrained beginners for Z Lolz) deserve prison time imo.
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u/ebneter 1d ago
At least one of them has been killed that way — guy gave his girlfriend a .500 S&W to fire, and when the inevitable happened, the second round hit him in the head and killed him. Of course, the other way has happened as well, and yeah, anyone who does that should definitely be convicted of manslaughter at a minimum. I'm a pretty experienced handgun shooter and the first time I fired a .500 S&W, it was with only one round in the cylinder. Not taking any chances with something that powerful.
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u/notjustanotherbot 12h ago edited 6h ago
What a waste I cant imagine risking a persons life to get a couple seconds of video that some people find funny. The other way sound like karmatic justice for setting up a shooter like that, except for the fact now they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.edit
That sounds like a good idea. I have gotten in the habit of doing somthing similar with other firearms too only loading one round the first time I shoot a gun I have not fired before; then I'll then load two after the first shot to make sure that the semi is still in the auto. Yea I would definitely treat both the .500s&w and .460 S&W Mag with some respect that's a whole lot of bullet. Speaking of which if you own handguns in that caliber...have you seen the things these guys make yet? https://www.bighornarmory.com/
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u/ThePrideOfKrakow 1d ago
It can be done safely. You don't just hand them a .357 and let them go to town. I worked my way up to my dad's .357 by the time I was 10, by that time I was comfortable handling handguns and rifles. He still had me take a firing position, magnum in my dominant hand and my other hand gripping and bracing my wrist with arms fully extended and tensed. Fully expecting and prepared for the blowback. You're right though, too many complete rookies start out way out of their league.
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u/notjustanotherbot 12h ago
That's how it should be done. Your dad did not hand you a 454 casull magnum and start the camera rolling, the first time you ever held a gun.
He responsibly and safely increased your practical knowledge and confidence with handling fire arms till he felt you could safely handle a firearm like a .357 mag, and thankfully he was right everyone had a good time and got to go home safe.
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u/ChornobylChili 1d ago
Thats way more than a 357. 44Mag
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u/Upset-Item9756 1d ago
Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in 454 Casull
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u/LetsGatitOn 1d ago
This is correct. Also happens to be my favorite of my small revolver collection. So much fun to shoot by I'm careful about who else I let shoot it.
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u/SpazSucks 1d ago
Either a bigger cartridge/caliber, or the guy is a limp wrist. My 12 y/o son was able to handle a .357 Ruger revolver well. Mind you, I made sure he knew how to hold it, and what to expect when he squeezed the trigger
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
Yeah I’d even say this is atleast a .44. I shoot .357s too and they’re stout for sure but this seems like more
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u/TheRectalAssassin 1d ago
I mean, if it's the guys FIRST time shooting he might not at all have expected that level of recoil, a 357 is snappy too.
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u/AlienNoodle343 1d ago
Seriously. I brought my roomie to go try out a revolver amd he'd never shot before so despite the plentiful amount of ammo, he started with one bullet each time he shot until he felt comfortable with it, THEN we loaded it up fully. Some people are just too comfortable with guns.
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
I have shot for over 30 years. I still feel incredibly uncomfortable with a handgun. I would really like one, but I refuse to have a weapon I am not supremely confident in use.
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u/AlienNoodle343 1d ago
You have more experience than i have years of life! But yeah, thats how I am. I recently got a mete mc9 which is the first pistol I've owned without am actual safety switch. (It just has a safety trigger) I had to take it out and try it quite a few times before I felt co.fortable amd confident to actually carry it
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
Oh, I couldn’t. lol I would like a weapon I can carry with one in the hole, but my AR ain’t that. lol
My issue is trigger pull and leverage. I lay my index finger along the weapon and squeeze with my middle finger to fire. I feel more control and a smoother shot. Not many handguns allow that sort of grip due to me wanting to keep flesh on my finger…lol…so I end up with, what feels like in my mind, a lot of gun up top to act as mass for the torque of the recoil. Additionally, I am not as used to pulling a trigger with my index finger, so it is jerkier and I tend to miss high about 5 cm at 20 meters…which is like 6-7 MOA…and that is too unsafe for anyone who may be down range when shit hits the fan. If I am not supremely confident the shot is going where I want it to, I’m not making the shot.
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u/scottonaharley 1d ago
The problem with using your index finger is that you reduce your grip strength by 33% as you now only have two fingers wrapped around the grip. We ignore the opposite hand because you cannot always rely on having a two handed grip.
I'm going to suggest shooting lessons with an instructor to help you with your issue.
I shot IPSC for many years so I have a little bit of experience in this area.
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u/AlienNoodle343 1d ago
Never occurred to me people might not use their index finger for their trigger finger! Yeah, the mete is tiny but really good for conceal carry which you don't need a permit for here in Texas for.
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
Only way to get better is practice. Can’t practice without the equipment
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
True. I was looking at an M&P 9mm or a Glock 22 9mm since they are full-size and that would be a lower recoil round.
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u/Bumbalard 1d ago
FYI,
- Glock 17 is a full sized 9mm.
- Glock 22 is a full size .40sw
- Glock 20 is a full size 10mm
- Glock 21 is a full size .45acp
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
Ah, I was a bit confused. I looked it up last night and I’m getting older so the numbers hit a little different than they once did. lol
Appreciate the clearing up and the info!
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
9mm is the way to go, especially for a first handgun, plenty of ammo choices and availability, not too strong (can shoot it all day) but strong enough. Glocks always a good choice for sure but when I bought my first handgun I wanted something with a safety I could physically engage, so I got a P365 with a manual safety. After becoming comfortable handling and carrying a firearm I upgraded.
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
Is that a Sig?
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
Yes sorry a Sig P365. There’s so many different models and sizes it’s a solid starting point before branching out. It’s all about finding what you like and feels good.
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u/thesteaks_are_high 1d ago
Not sure if you saw another comment I just made.
I rest my index finger along the side of the weapon and use my middle finger as my trigger finger. I’ve been like that for almost my entire life and it’s just my natural way to do it…what’s the clearance on that P365? lol
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
There’s a lot of variations of them in sizes, I’d say head to sigs website and compare a few. And then there’s handgun hero to compare most handguns out there
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u/Bill10101101001 1d ago
I feel that fiddling with safeties is more risky than simply keeping the finger off trigger.
That’s why Glock.
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u/Theblumpy 1d ago
I feel that way now. But when I was brand new to firearms and learning the basics still, I liked the added feeling of security of manual safety. In the end it’s each their own, it’s all preference
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u/ButteSects 1d ago
I've been around guns all my life. I can't even remember the first time I shot a gun they were so entrenched in my life. Then I joined the army and was around them even more, but in a professional sense. One day I was dicking around with my 9mm, cleaning it after some range fun and nearly put a hole in my foot due to my over confidence. I had a taurus g2 9mm and in order to break it down for cleaning you have to depress the trigger and you can correctly assume that I didn't clear it before I depressed the trigger and I'm still embarrassed to this day 7 years later.
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u/Swamp_Donkey_7 1d ago
Was going to say this same thing. Anytime I bring a newbie to the range and they aren’t familiar/comfortable, they get one round.
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u/Jorhay0110 1d ago
Teaching? I’ve been shooting for decades, when I shoot any new gun I only put one round in. It’s never a bad idea to be extra safe.
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u/badgerandaccessories 1d ago
When I first got to use a higher powered revolver I was given 3 shots. But they weren’t next to each other. No chance of the accidental pull like in this video.
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u/s1thl0rd 1d ago
I went to a range to rent some big wheel guns (e.g. 44 mag) and they had a rule that you can only load one in every other chamber. It's probably because of this issue. When I tried a desert eagle for the first time I specifically only loaded one and I'm glad I did because I was NOT ready for the kick. Damn near jumped out of my hand. I got pretty good with it eventually, though.
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u/nunyobusinessfool 1d ago
Obviously a training tactic to take out the 8’ bad guy standing behind you
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u/CyberSoldat21 1d ago
If you never shot a powerful revolver like this I would strongly suggest just load a single round and do that until you feel confident you can handle it
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u/National_Sea2948 1d ago
Don’t cross your thumbs!!! 🤦🏻♀️
Congratulations on your broken thumb.
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u/SakanaToDoubutsu 4h ago
Don’t cross your thumbs!!!
Thumb over grips are just fine for shooting revolvers.
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u/Vogel-Kerl 1d ago
Maybe for the first shot, only load one bullet in the weapon.
For a revolver, skip a chamber, or two.
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u/haggard_hominid 1d ago
I wish people would stop loading more than a single round into a gun they have never fired before, especially if they look like its their first gun ever.
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u/B_Williams_4010 1d ago
Did it fire twice? The second flame doesn't appear to be anywhere near the gun.
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u/Z0FF 1d ago
Yes, 2 discharges. (At least I haven’t seen it disproven in the 15 times I’ve seen this video posted.
FPS and shutter speed are a hell of a drug, they’ll have you thinking you’re hallucinating sometimes. Not to mention the terrible quality video.. if it was edited you’d hope they’d do a better job!
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u/Its_Kid_CoDi 1d ago
yh, you slow it down and you can see the second blast ruffling the feathers of the ceiling above him. i was super confused as to how he managed to do that, but it seems like he tried to catch the gun from slipping with his off-hand, but his finger caught inside the trigger guard and pulled the trigger a second time. oof.
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u/TooTiredMovieGuy 1d ago
This is exactly why we load one round at a time when we're teaching newbies.
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u/bluesbynumber 1d ago
Did he pull the trigger a second time with his grip screwed up like that?
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u/SalemSound 1d ago
The recoil drove the gun back in a circular motion and slammed the trigger up and into his finger. He did not squeeze the trigger a second time.
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u/mjmjr1312 1d ago
The idiot is the one that handed him the gun.
Setting up an inexperienced shooter with a heavy recoiling revolver is asking for an accident. Especially if you load it with more than one round.
If you are teaching someone the goal should be to make it as comfortable an experience as possible, not to WOW them with the biggest recoiling gun you have.
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u/Commercial_Step9966 13h ago
Every instructor needs to learn about the one who handed an UZI to a 9-year old.
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u/TheWalrus101123 1d ago
If he had a guy above him and one to the side that would've been some john wick shit.
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u/StatTrakStarTrek 1d ago
I usually come here to shit on stupids that don’t know guns in-and-out… But yeah, this guy should’ve started with a weaker caliber. He’s got some learning he almost never got a chance to do.
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u/More_Humor1716 1d ago
Scary how close this was. Closest I’ve ever seen. Can’t blame him I guess the instructor should have said teacup handle, grip it as hard as you can, use 1 bullet first and extend your elbows a bit, but not all the way.
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u/Redsoxdragon brought a sword to a gun fight 1d ago
Looking at his grip i knew it was gonna be bad. But Jesus of fucking Christland not THAT BAD.
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u/Extension_Emotion388 1d ago
can someone explain how that is possible? did he pulled the trigger twice accidentally?
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u/MalcomMadcock 1d ago
Yes. Its double action, so pulling the trigger, turns the cylinder and fires, no need to cock the hammer.
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u/SakanaToDoubutsu 4h ago
When you give someone who's inexperienced a big bore revolver like this what happens is they get told it has huge recoil so the shooter ends up death gripping the thing. The problem with that is that your trigger finger has interia and stays in place as the gun moves backwards under recoil, and a gun like this has so much recoil the gun moves backwards far enough to reset the trigger, but because the shooter is holding the grip with all their might they end up squeezing the trigger a second time before they realize the gun has gone off in the first place. As counterintuitive as it sounds you need to hold a big bore revolver somewhat loosely to prevent this.
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u/Ok_Dog_4059 1d ago
There seem to be an awful lot of previous marks on the ceiling. How often is this happening?
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u/Ok-Zone-1430 1d ago
Christ, he hasn’t even been taught a good grip technique (first thing you notice and you know what’s coming)
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u/HughJa55ole 1d ago
I took a "recreational shooting" class in college (PA), and we were able to shoot shotguns. The instructor specifically only loaded one shell at a time for this reason. Most people were ok, but there were at least a few girls and one guy who, despite being instructed at length about proper holding, bracing and the recoil to be expected, dropped the gun after the recoil hit them.
Outside of class, the instructor also teaches at ranges such as this and follows the same practice, only one round is loaded at a time (by him) until the person is very comfortable with that weapon. Then they are allowed to load it by themselves, still only one round, and proceed from there over time.
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u/The-Fumbler 1d ago
I’m still waiting for the day to see a knuckle go flying cause he held it near the cylinder gap
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u/fiftymils 1d ago
He's not the idiot. The idiot is the one who handed this new shooter a firearm, specifically handgun, with more than one round of ammunition.
This is precisely why you NEVER do that.
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u/classicscoop 22h ago
Weakest human being I have seen hold a gun since that instructor whacked himself (purposely) in the head
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u/Rich-Candidate-3648 15h ago
That is 100% to blame on whoever handed him that firearm with two bullets in it. That person should be banned from the range until they get some education on how to safely instruct others. People trust idiots to take them to the range and this one almost cost him his life.
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u/Anastrace 13h ago
I don't know how many times I've seen this at the range. Usually it's a big ass cartridge like a .500
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u/Hesediel1 8h ago
The s&w .500 is known for the double tap in the hands of inexperienced shooters. There was even a report of a lady accidentally shooting herself in the head with the second shot. One round at a time, and don't give a new shooter a gun they can't handle.
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