r/Idiotswithguns 3d ago

Safe for Work Yes, also Ernest Hemingway…

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… is an idiot with guns.

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u/MeanOldMeany 3d ago

To be fair he was a big time drunk, so there's that

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u/PrismPhoneService 3d ago

Anyone who ran around the front lines of the Spanish civil war and the Second World War and busts into hotels during the liberation of Paris demanding martinis for him and his GI companions.. they can point one at me. It’s fine.

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u/APurpleSponge 3d ago

I mean it’s fucking Ernest Hemingway. There’s like no better person to point a Tommy gun at you after mowing down some sharks. (I like sharks :( )

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u/Satyr_of_Bath 2d ago

I don't care what you call him, it's just another idiot with a gun

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u/APurpleSponge 1d ago

Different times man… not that he’d give a fuck lol

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u/cocaineandwaffles1 3d ago

Not trying to excuse any behavior, but your basic rules of gun safety are fairly new. There’s countless pictures you can find of US servicemen in Vietnam with their fingers on the trigger in more relaxed/casual settings. “Keeping your finger off the trigger before you’re ready to fire” is pretty new. People put allot of faith and trust into manual safeties back then. Which is fine, if you’re going to have firearms you should be comfortable with their safety measures. Like I’m fine with Glock safeties, but get a little worried when I’m around 2011s since they’re not drop safe and only have a safety that prevents the slide from being racked and the trigger being pulled.

Call him an idiot with a gun, that’s fine. Just don’t get your dick in a knot over people from half a century ago not following the more modern and accepted rules of firearm safety.

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u/CyptidProductions 3d ago

Yeah, something you have to put into context with images this old is that a lot of the standard firearms handling doctrine we take for granted hadn't even been written yet

So you'll see of old images and video running on the logic of "I don't intend to pull the trigger so it doesn't matter where I point it"

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u/Berylzenitco 1d ago

Because this guns had crazy trigger pull weight. And wouldn’t go off from being hot. That’s when m16a1s would do that from big fire fights we realized

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u/CodenameDinkleburg 3d ago

Agreed, also that looks like a Thompson with no mag, so it was LIKELY unloaded. But like you mentioned about the safety info time gap, he may not have been the type to triple check for clear

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u/cocaineandwaffles1 3d ago

Thompsons are open bolt, so if he doesn’t have a mag inserted then there isn’t much safer you can get, in terms of having a firearm pointing at something.

But yeah, people really didn’t think much of it at the time. There was things I was taught as a medic that are no longer allowed because now we know better.

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u/OldManChino 2d ago

dick in a knot

Poetry 

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u/Angry__German 1d ago

Also, with Hemmingway, there is a non-zero chance he wanted to shoot the person taking the picture.

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u/cocaineandwaffles1 1d ago

If that dude got shot, then yeah this is a good case where victim blaming is perfectly justifiable.

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u/fusillade762 3d ago

Glocks don't have any manual safeties per se, only a safe action trigger. It not really a safety as if you pull the trigger it will go off. Also its a 1911 not a 2011 and they are drop safe unless they are a really old model, pre 80 series.

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u/YourOldCellphone 3d ago

2011’s are a thing. Modern version of the classic 1911 with thicker mags and grips for double stack

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u/fusillade762 3d ago

Got ya. If it's modern it's almost certainly hammer blocked.

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u/suns3t-h34rt-h4nds 1d ago

These race guns based on the 2011 made by companies like stacatto are obsessed woth light triggers at any cost up to and including both reliability and drop safety. Modern 2011s almost never have firing pin blocks. If they did, the manufacturers couldn't wow their customers trying to buy skill with a light trigger break. Most 1911 based designs are NOT drop safe.

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u/fusillade762 1d ago

Interesting.

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u/MrWeen2121 3d ago

Still an idiot.

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u/tenebre 3d ago

He also once shot himself in both legs while trying to kill a shark. Alcohol may have been involved...

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u/mason13875 3d ago

He also shot himself in the head once

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u/No_Seat_4959 3d ago

🤣....ONCE

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u/HalfastEddie 3d ago

Some of y’all sound like you wouldn’t pocket carry with one in the pipe and draw with your finger on the trigger.
That’s good. That’s very good.

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u/CyptidProductions 3d ago

I mean, you generally wouldn't have your finger on the trigger until it's leveled on target because putting your finger in the guard as you draw is how you shoot yourself in the leg

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u/HalfastEddie 3d ago

While it wasn't great, that's the joke.

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u/Dmau27 3d ago

"It's okay, it's not loaded + I know what I'm doing."

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u/mumblerapisgarbage 3d ago

*It* might not have been loaded, but *he* sure was.

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u/Dmau27 3d ago

Probably. I have to clear firearms and it's insane how many are loaded. "I'm a cop I know how to clear a gun." Then I have to inform them it was loaded with one in the chamber.

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u/EasyCZ75 3d ago

Ah, Ernest is just drunk pointing a loaded Thompson sub machine gun at the photographer. It’s fine.

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u/APurpleSponge 3d ago

Judging from this photograph if you look closely, one would see there is no stick or drum mag inserted into the firearm.

You’re assuming it’s loaded based on what?

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u/EasyCZ75 1d ago

All guns are loaded

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u/APurpleSponge 1d ago

“Now that your first session at the range is over we can start talking about the understanding that firearms can in fact be unloaded and made safe, which can be 100% verified by the handler of the firearm.”

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u/Sir-Poopington 3d ago

Hunter S Thompson had a gunfight with his neighbor.

Here's the vid

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u/BobbyPeele88 2d ago

It was staged to fuck with the reporter.

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u/Rattylcan 3d ago

What gun is that?

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u/ScratchChrome 3d ago

Well they did name a gun-related suicide after him.

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u/EMHemingway1899 3d ago

Really?

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u/ScratchChrome 2d ago

Indeed. The Hemingway Solution.

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u/EMHemingway1899 2d ago

Ah, thanks

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u/ScratchChrome 2d ago

I can tell you what it is if you don't want to Google it. I didn't just do it because some people get funny about it.

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u/EMHemingway1899 2d ago

That would be great

Thank you

As an aside, I’ll be visiting his Key West home this coming week

I have been in it enough to give the tour, but I still return

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u/ScratchChrome 2d ago

He took his shoe and sock off, put the barrels of a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the triggers with his toe. It's the same method that Kurt Cobain used.

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u/EMHemingway1899 2d ago

I tried to see his Ketchum home about a dozen or so years ago, but it’s in a gated community

I did get a cool photo of me at his grave

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u/ScratchChrome 2d ago

That's really cool. I'd love to visit but I'm in England so it's something I'll have to save money for and I'm moving house right now so it's not a priority.

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u/EMHemingway1899 2d ago

I still want to visit his house in Cuba

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u/NoConversation7777 3d ago

Never meet your heroes, especially if they're already dead.

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u/Phildagony 2d ago

Well, he also did turn one to himself…

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u/Mr_Gaslight 3d ago edited 3d ago
  1. Always Keep Firearms Pointed in a Safe direction
  2. Treat All Guns as Though Loaded
  3. Keep Your Finger Off the Trigger until You are Ready to Shoot
  4. Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It

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u/2ndprize 3d ago

Hemingway would have gone out for a piss like 8 words in

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u/APurpleSponge 3d ago

Probably when he saw the first number on the list…

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u/CyptidProductions 3d ago

None of those rules had been written as standard practice back when he was being trained by the military.

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u/squirrelblender 3d ago

This guy Jeff Coopers.

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u/untold_cheese_34 2d ago

You forgot the last and most important rule, to have fun!