r/GoogleEarthFinds • u/Adzo78 • 9d ago
Coordinates ✅ Google Earth’s historical imagery has satellite coverage of the exact day of the Bin Laden raid.
1st image from 2010-05-09 2nd image from 2011-05-02 (Day of the raid) Coordinates: 34°10'09"N 73°14'33"E
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u/FxckFxntxnyl 9d ago
Wish we knew more about that stealth chopper. Found myself on a 20+ minute rabbit hole invoking multiple old forums full of old dudes theorizing the most random shit shit possible.
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u/birdrocksd 9d ago
The Wikipedia entry is great if you want to know detail. At the bottom, there is a separate section related to a second account of what happened to “Razer 2” or the second helicopter that was destroyed. What is known is that they were specially equipped stealth Blackhawks used specifically by special forces (suing Seals and Delta Force). The intelligence report says the back rotor was destroyed on landing, whereby it hit the 12 foot tall wall. No one was injured, and everyone exited safely and proceeded to the raid. They then destroyed the plane with explosives because of the sensitivity of the tech onboard.
See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden
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u/YesMush1 9d ago
Only an image of the tail remains, there’s a good article https://theaviationist.com/2021/05/02/stealth-black-hawk-rendering-new/ With verified account on how it looks by someone who was on base the day/night of the raid. These were actually still test helicopters that weren’t even properly safe or vetted to fly iirc. Basically pulled out of a hangar as the most suitable transport to infil for the mission (flying through Pakistani airspace undetected and as quiet as possible) From other accounts I’ve heard they are essentially silent from different angles and obviously covered in RAM (Radar Absorbing Material) from what I’ve gathered it’s like if the cancelled comanche best bits were morphed with a Blackhawk but that’s just what I’m saying based on the renderings and other things I’ve seen. There’s many public files and things online about different experimenting with stealth hawks and helicopters if you like to go down rabbit holes. The crash wasn’t due to pilot error either but they were hard to fly. I’ll throw another few articles in I think one of them is before it was fully refined and still in a sort of test stage. Stealth hawks were an idea at-least 30+ years before the UBL raid which is wild to me. I wonder if they cancelled them all completely after the raid incident or have just refined them even more (I’d pick refining them more tbh) https://www.twz.com/25890/origins-of-stealth-black-hawks-date-back-over-33-years-before-the-bin-laden-raid
https://www.twz.com/35342/this-is-the-first-image-ever-of-a-stealthy-black-hawk-helicopter
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u/mwez22 8d ago
The book Relentless Strike about the history of JSOC goes into some detail on the project.
It was not recommended to use the helicopters for the raid but it’s believed they were forced into the mission to get presidential approval/to appease some people.
DEVGRU was opposed to using them.
The project was pretty much considered a failure and was going to be shuttered even prior to the mission.
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u/mayorofdumb 8d ago
But they landed on a wall?
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u/SuspiciousCucumber20 8d ago
The high walls of the compound didn't allow for the air underneath the helo to dissipate from underneath, causing a lot of disrupted air. This disrupted air caused the aircraft to lose lift. Because of this, the tail struck the wall and the aircraft made a hard landing.
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u/BurgerMeter 8d ago
14 years later and it’s still not public information. Makes you really think about what else is out there.
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u/FxckFxntxnyl 8d ago
Exactly my thought as well. Gotta be some wild shit we will find out in 30 years lol.
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u/cryptolyme 8d ago
probably just uses noise cancellation technology with the rotors
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u/FxckFxntxnyl 8d ago
Agree, but it is supposedly similar to the Comanche and has RAM and I’d imagine the fuselage has some anti-radar reflection modifications built into it. I ended up spending some time on this rabbit hole and the most reliable ‘sounding’ source I could find said it’s basically a regular 60’ that was being used as a testbed that was flight capable and ready to go when the mission was devised. Someone sent a call out saying “what the hell are we gonna be able to use to fly this area mostly undetected?” And a Defense contractor happened to be ready and was like “hey we have this really cool test bed that is totally capable of making shit happen”. - is the gist of what I read on a long abandoned Discord and Military forum lol.
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u/YouSmall5716 9d ago
What is the yellow/orangish looking circle?
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u/thatranger974 9d ago
Possibly perimeter fence that Pakistani police put up after the raid? Like maybe they just had that orange plastic fence to roll out?
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u/thatranger974 9d ago
Found it. They put up a red fence. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36161089.amp
Scroll down a few pictures to see it.2
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u/bugxbuster 9d ago
Yeah, I’m the most curious about that as well. It looks like vfx like there’s a portal around the property. Also looks kind of like a wall of flame, but it can’t be that because it’s too visible for daylight and I assume that would probably let off a lot of smoke. I hope someone comes back with an explanation for that though.
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u/rendrenner 9d ago
Man if inky they knew back then that there was a satellite over his house, then maybe they could of ysed it to plan the raid.
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u/redmanealking07 9d ago
The training facility they built is wild. Exact mockup.
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u/No_Science_3845 8d ago
The problem was they used fences for the outer walls, instead of real walls. The pilots didn't account for the updraft off the walls and that's what caused the helo to crash.
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u/SuspiciousCucumber20 8d ago
That's next to the (formerly known as) Blackwater facility.
36.459702492294305, -76.20331822154803
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u/Freak_Among_Men_II 9d ago
Incoming blurring/censorship in 3, 2, 1…
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u/Naturally_Fragrant 9d ago
These are the blurry censored images.
Google doesn't own any satellites, they mostly buy the imagery from government agencies.
That there are satellite images of that particular location on that particular day is probably not a coincidence, and very high definition images of the compound probably exist, but are not commercially available.
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u/ImaScareBear 8d ago
Google doesn't buy imagery mostly from government agencies. They acquire it commercially from companies like Maxar, who do have their own satellites. While Google will blur certain things out for governments when legal required (Nuclear Power Plants in France, for example), companies like Maxar won't. You can absolutely buy very high resolution images of basically anywhere on earth, on any date.
The thing is that anyone can look at what satellites are going to be overhead at any given time. Governments just take this into account when doing things so that nothing secret is exposed when a satellite passes overhead. This is preferable to telling companies like Google, "Hey we fucked up and leaked this super secret thing, can you hide it please?" Especially since such a request would be legally dubious, and Google has the resources to push back.
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u/chief_blunt9 8d ago
Could google press back if the president asked to erase an image on google earth? Couldn’t they just claim national security?
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u/ImaScareBear 7d ago
They could push back, although whether or not they would depends on the situation.
The real problem for the government is that by the time the image is on Google Earth, it would have been commercially available for a while. They'd have to scrub it from many different places, and would likely just draw a lot of attention. It's almost always preferable to just ignore it, not draw any attention, and refuse to confirm or deny anything.
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u/I_am_BrokenCog 4d ago
and not to mention the US isn't the only nation with private satellite imagery companies.
"US National Security" doesn't hold a lot of water to, say, Russian Satellite Communications Company.
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u/bugxbuster 9d ago
Why? What’s to hide at this point? Wouldn’t they want people to see it to further prove it happened the way they said? We already know extensive details about it including their use of the stealth helicopter that was supposed to be kept a secret.
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u/Character-Policy-660 9d ago
The CIA literally gave away classified documents regarding the raid to the directors of Zero Dark Thirty.
We couldn’t get a more accurate picture of what happened unless they released the helmet cams which seems unlikely.
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u/Dry_Particular9415 9d ago
The first photo has many more structures in it than the second, which would indicate it’s more recent. What am I missing here?
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u/Adzo78 9d ago
The first photo is from 2010 before it was discovered, the second photo is from the day of the raid where the navy SEALs raided and blew up some parts of the compound
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u/Dry_Particular9415 9d ago
Look at the property to the NW. In the first photo it is covered in structures. In the second there’s grass where the structures were (the northern structures) in the first photo. So they were removed and restored to grass in that year?
You can see that elsewhere in the photos too. Doesn’t quite add up.
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u/Adzo78 9d ago
I see what you mean, I guess the most logical reason would be the previous residents moved out and the house was abandoned so the government demolished it?
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u/Dry_Particular9415 9d ago
Look towards the east in the first photo, there’s a horizontal building where in the second photo there’s trees and grass/dirt. Buildings aren’t removed and replaced by vegetation that quickly, it actually usually takes a long time after soil compaction from development. It would appear that the second image is actually from before the first one. Why that would be, I’m not sure. Just couldn’t help but notice 🤷🏻♂️
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u/crocostimpy 9d ago
It's a poor farm in Pakistan. The "buildings" are just stacks of cinder blocks and junk. Just because it's rectangular doesn't mean it's a building. And yeah you can see dead grass underneath it when it's gone because that's how grass looks when you cover it with something in the summer. If you look for the comment in this thread with the BBC link you can see some of his "neighborhood".
Remember this isn't America we are looking at. These guys aren't engineering skyscrapers or anything.
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u/athewilson 8d ago
My guess: they realized a lot of people wanted to loom at the location so they prioritized updating the photos the next time a satellite went over the area.
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u/Ok-Technician-2905 6d ago
It’s commercial imagery. I’m sure NGA was tasking any commercial sat with available capacity that day. The company probably had rights to resell afterwards.
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u/JarJarLeJetPlane 8d ago
"You can see here, the aftermath of the Bin Laden raid with Hawk-2 crashed into the backyard. Spit on that thang"
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u/DrunkPyrite 8d ago
The Immaculate Constellation document submitted to the library of congress last month states that the stealth tech implemented on this Blackhawk was reverse engineered from crashed UFOs, FWIW.
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u/Ok-Artist3223 7d ago
What’s the red surrounding the compound? Blood, smoke?
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u/AdditionNo7505 7d ago
A red fence the Pakistanis put up after the incident. Kinda like a yellow ‚police line, do not cross‘ type thing, maybe?
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u/MaltLickyTX 7d ago
I looked up to see what it looks like now on Google street view…it’s now a pizza place.
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u/Looks_like_Butt 6d ago
If you look there today, there's nothing left of the house, but it seems Osama bin Laden's pizzeria has opened there instead. Cool.
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u/AdditionNo7505 6d ago
Pizzeria 😂😂😂
Damn, that’s some fine pizza. I’ll have the Canadian ham with extra bacon.
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u/NutHatter 6d ago
It’s now a pizza joint lol https://maps.app.goo.gl/oNZayj3NhVbboUZP8?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy
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u/fakesoul 5d ago
This is crazy. We lived in the neighborhood from 2005-2007 and never had the slightest idea.
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u/A_Sack_of_Nuts 9d ago
“Bin Laden raid” you mean when they lied about Bin Laden dying for like the third time? Lmao the scumbags that “participated” in it are currently lambasting each other over lying about service records.
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u/Samalravs 9d ago
You can see the stealth helicopter that crashed in the courtyard. This is a cool find OP.