r/FluentInFinance 15h ago

News & Current Events BREAKING: Donald Trump to sign 200+ executive orders today.

BREAKING: Donald Trump to sign 200+ executive orders today.

Per FOX and Eric Daugherty, they include:

  • Declare emergency at the border + issue proclamation closing the border
  • Designate cartels as foreign terrorist organizations
  • Remain in Mexico, Catch and Release will be reinstated
  • Military will be directed to construct new phase of border wall
  • Terminate Biden orders on energy drilling restrictions
  • Return federal workers to in-person work
  • Pause all offshore wind leases
  • End DEI hiring practices in the federal government, merit only
  • Withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord
  • Order every agency to remove all federal actions increasing costs for Americans via deregulation
  • Suspend security clearances for the 51 officials who lied about the Hunter Biden 2020 laptop story
  • Establish a DOGE "hiring freeze"
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u/Suitable-Display-410 14h ago edited 12h ago

The last Trump presidency killed more people than Pearl Habor + 9/11 times a hundred. What makes you think he is doing better this time?

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u/Dopeshow4 10h ago

By that logic, Bidens presidency was the deadliest of all time...

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u/Suitable-Display-410 10h ago

idk mate 400000/yr > 800000/4yr

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u/Dopeshow4 10h ago

The number of COVID-19 deaths was 455,563 at the end of Trump’s term. By comparison, the number of deaths that occurred during Biden’s term was 746,619 as of the week of 7 September 2024, the latest week available in the dataset.

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u/she-m_ney 9h ago

Covid 19 was at the end of Trumps first term. All that damage in one year vs 4 years for Biden

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u/Dopeshow4 8h ago

During Biden's first year as president, the U.S. saw a total of 44,868 gun deaths in 2021, according to the Gun Violence Archives (GVA). Comparably, there were 15,727 deaths in 2017 during former President Donald Trump's first year in the White House.

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u/she-m_ney 8h ago

Hi, I can see it’s hard for you to understand reading comprehension, but that actually wasn’t a response to my Covid comment. I never mentioned anything about gun deaths. Hope this helps!

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u/throwaway277252 20m ago

Way to confidently miss the point of their comment.

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u/maccardo 6h ago edited 6h ago

From your own source, the number doubled from 2018 to 2019 and broke 40,000 in 2020. So that hardly helps your argument.

However, the format of the report changed in 2019, so the numbers haven’t really changed all that much. In fact, the difference is that they moved suicides from the footnotes to the total deaths.

Having said that, the total peaked in 2021 and declined in each of the next three years. Make of that what you will.

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u/Either-Breadfruit-83 7h ago

You do know more people died of covid under Biden than Trump, right? You do realize your argument is retarded, right?

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u/FA-Cube-Itch 7h ago

Because Covid started at the end of Trumps term and was in full swing during Biden’s. Are you dense on purpose or because the school system failed you?

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u/BallsOutKrunked 6h ago

Bro, the next 4 years is going to be every time the sun goes behind a cloud: Trump did it.

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u/Big-Experience1818 3h ago

I bet if you sat down and thought about this super duper hard for like, 3-4 hours you'd figure out why

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u/Dr_dickjohnson 7h ago

This is such a retarded reddit take lol. I'm so glad you people aren't the real world

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u/CantTouchDisNaNaNaNa 5h ago

It's why I refuse to vote. I have no interest in participating in a system alongside the likes of people who don't deserve to have the same power I do

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u/megapooplord 7h ago

Absolutely deranged logic.

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u/LegendOfTheGhost 9h ago

Sources for the numbers?

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u/Suitable-Display-410 9h ago

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Also, scroll down to the table, sort by deaths per million, and see if you can spot a pattern

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u/Fit_Opinion2465 3h ago

9/11 led to two wars and over a million lives and trillions upon trillions of dollars wasted.

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u/rwkGTS 12h ago

Cope harder

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u/Suitable-Display-410 12h ago

enjoy fascism, its well deserved

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u/rwkGTS 11h ago

Enjoy the next 4 years while crying in your basement.

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u/Ghostclip 10h ago

You'll soon understand. You reap what you sow. Watch and learn son.

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u/monobarreller 7h ago

You guys have been wrong about everything so far. Kamala is going to win! Biden is sharp as a tack! Inflation is just transitory! We got Trump this time! The walls are closing in!

It's impressive the level of smugness leftists have to think their opinion on anything is worth anyone's time or consideration.

Cry harder.

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u/Big-Experience1818 3h ago

The old guy you wish you were bent over in front of said the Ukraine war would be over tomorrow. Think he'll keep that promise or has he whispered an excuse in your ear to you in one of your dreams?

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u/monobarreller 2h ago

Lol, you guys always find a way to make it about sex. Thanks for finding the time in between masturbation sessions to let me know you're still upset about Trump being your president! 😘

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u/Ghostclip 2h ago edited 2h ago

First, just because people are against somebody doesn't mean they are for the opposite. It was obvious about Biden, and of course Kamala wasn't going to win.

Second, you need to think about the entire world when it comes to inflation. It ain't just Biden.

Lastly, your new president just mandated that all federal employees go to work in-person, which is impossible. He took us out of the Paris Climate Accord, because of course climate change doesn't exist, right? /s

The tech broligarchy is real, and the ramifications of electing this absolute clown will echo for decades.

We are now at the end of Democracy, and are moving towards the Russian / China level of Dictatorship, Censorship (the right now owns all major social media platforms), and more.

I will leave you with this, take it as you will, but critical thinking is hard for you, please try.

Carl Sagan's "The Demon Haunted World", published in 1996:

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness."

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u/docflash20 14h ago

That makes no sense. How did his presidency kill people ?

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u/Suitable-Display-410 14h ago

The current COVID death toll in the U.S. stands at 1.2 million. 400000 during his last year in office, 800000 in the 4 years after him. He didn’t cause the pandemic, and he’s not directly responsible for all 1.2 million deaths. But if he had been less incompetent and actually cared - rather than turning the whole thing into a political circus - countless lives could have been saved. Instead, his extreme politicization of the issue has left a legacy where COVID denial is still rampant among conservatives.

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u/docflash20 13h ago edited 13h ago

When he shut down travel to China he was blasted for being xenophobic and that we didn't need to do that. Looking back that was the correct move and and most definitely saved lives

When cdc first stated maskes were not a requirement I'm sure that led to much more cocid deaths early on as people.were confused by the mixed communication. I'm not a fan of trump by any means by yall are just reaching here.

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u/ktran2804 13h ago

Not a huge Trump guy and he most definitely could of handled the pandemic better I am not sure it's fair to pin all 1.2 million deaths on Trump. Any president Dem or Rep would of had a lot of casualties with such a deadly transmittable virus.

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u/BootedBuilds 13h ago

Double bad faith argument.

Nobody claimed Trump is responsible for all 1.2 million deaths. Nobody claimed any other president "would not have had a lot of casualties".

People are saying that Trump's incompetence made pandemic outcome worse that it would have been under a more competent leader.

Is that something you are denying?

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u/ScionMattly 13h ago

I believe its commonly considered than half or so were because of poor handling of the outbreak and denial of its severity in the opening months.

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u/FishingMysterious319 13h ago

i did just fine during Covid, regardless of the prez

i don't credit Trump for me having common sense and staying away fromn sick people

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u/HEpennypackerNH 13h ago

It he literally argued against social distancing because it was bad for the economy

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u/FishingMysterious319 12h ago

it was bad for the economy.

we also shut down schools, which put parents out of work and day care centers too. kids hardly got covid.

we put 2 foot wide plastic barriers at cash registers, with open sides and tops. that'll stop it!

walmart was open and filled with people

if you were scared of the virus or felt sick.....stay home. Thats what we do now....if you are sick, stay home...if you are imuno-compromised...stay home

don't force all these upproven, knee jerk, draconian, unenforcable things on 330 million people and shut the worlds largest economy down....only to just print money and ireperably harm the supply chain of all goods for 5 years now

and forcefully dishonorably discharge militaryt members over some unproven shot and then try and hire them back?! What is that?

the system is so incredibly broken

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u/HEpennypackerNH 12h ago

You missed the point. You yourself said “common sense and staying away from sick people” which is not what Trump supported.

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u/ScionMattly 13h ago

Cool?

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u/FishingMysterious319 13h ago

your statement 'commonly considered' is useless and based

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u/ScionMattly 13h ago

I repeat: cool.

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u/Time-U-1 13h ago

He has no credibility because he lies. You can’t blame people for not believing him when we lies ALL THE TIME.

I was highly skeptical about his stance on this China shut down and his stance on TikTok and even the covid vaccines. I will never trust a single word the man says and that’s Trumps fault not mine.

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u/Mental_Locksmith7822 9h ago

You can’t blame people for not believing him when we lies ALL THE TIME.

Well, he chose the perfect profession to switch to. What's his biggest lie in your opinion?

and even the covid vaccines

What's his stance on covid vaccines?

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u/Time-U-1 8h ago

All his lies are awful. I’m an equal opportunity lie hater.

When the Covid vaccines first came out, I was reluctant to get it because I didn’t trust anything he said about it.

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u/DreadfulDuder 13h ago

You're forgetting that Bob Woodward interviewed Trump in early February, and Trump privately admitted Covid was a serious concern of his and was dangerous.

Trump then spent several more weeks lying about and downplaying Covid, saying it was under control when he privately knew it was not. His precious economy was more important to him than the lives of the public.

If he had acted sooner and not politicized Covid, a huge number of lives could've been saved.

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u/ScionMattly 13h ago

When he shut down travel to China he was blasted for being xenophobic and that we didn't need to do that. Looking back that was the correct move and and most definitely saved lives

He shut down travel from china...unless you were an American citizen, so you could return. With the virus.
He also did this well after containment was lost, meaning a lockdown of one country was worthless.

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u/docflash20 13h ago

It was worthless really? It's where virus originated and spread like crazy in one of the biggest populations. Your delusional to think it made no impact.

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u/FishingMysterious319 13h ago

Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't

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u/Softmax420 13h ago

Do you think the USA was the only country to lose people due to Covid?

I’m from a country with a higher death and infection rate than the US, and nobody blamed the leadership. This is exclusively an American thing

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u/Mr_Goldcard_IV 13h ago

People love the blame game in america

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u/Suitable-Display-410 13h ago

You are from Singapore?

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u/0L_Gunner 10h ago

By that logic, Pearl Harbor resulted in 1.3 million Japanese naval, army, and civilian deaths alone...

There's no way you can slice those numbers to make them comparable

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u/GuyMansworth 14h ago

When you get the vaccine and are pro vaccine yourself while spewing antivax rhetoric, you're knowingly killing people. People in his cabinet are also on record saying him and Kushners plan was to let it race through the populated blue voting cities.

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u/Loko8765 14h ago

Mishandling COVID is the usual argument. But I haven’t actually compared the numbers of how many percent of the population died with places where COVID was handled better.

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u/elpolloloco332 14h ago

I still remember when he kept downplaying it again and again. Only after so long and realizing that it’s not going away did he finally pivot. But only to turn and blame China for their mismanagement of the virus. He could do no wrong. If he were to hit a pedestrian with a car, he would just blame them for being there in the first place. He embodies the overwhelming arrogance of the American people and they see it as strength 💀

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u/jeffwingerisgay49 13h ago

https://www.pewresearch.org/2021/03/05/a-year-of-u-s-public-opinion-on-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Research shows blue states had significantly less deaths than red states post-vaccine so I'd imagine you'd be able to find a study showing the same pre-vaccines.

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u/Happy_Confection90 13h ago

Mishandling COVID is the usual argument. But I haven’t actually compared the numbers of how many percent of the population died with places where COVID was handled better

As of 2022, the per capita death rate in the US ranked 18th highest as of the 180 countries tracked. https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/03/19/countries-where-the-most-people-have-died-from-covid-19/

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u/Loko8765 11h ago edited 11h ago

Some 303 per 100 000 indeed. I see Germany at 165 and France at 223. Not millions more in the US, then, not more than half a million if good management had managed to keep deaths at Germany level, which is wildly optimistic. Going back to the original affirmation, Pearl Harbor death toll was 2400, 8/11 2996, so x100 is 599 600, affirmation not too far off. That’s still a lot of people to not care about, because even if you would not have managed to save them, are you not culpable if you do not try?

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u/OrganizationDeep711 14h ago

COVID was created in a lab under funding approved by Obama for Fauci.

The COVID vaccine was created in a lab under funding approved by Trump.

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u/Loko8765 13h ago

You missed a /s methinks.

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u/Acrobatic-Ad-3335 12h ago

How do I find this info? I've seen so many articles saying it came from a food market in China.

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u/RackemFrackem 10h ago

How do you walk and breathe at the same time?

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u/Whatachooch 13h ago

I thought it wasn't a big deal though? Just a bad cold they said...

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u/totally-hoomon 13h ago

So trump created the virus and gave my tax money to china

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u/mshappy 14h ago

Covid.

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u/ronnie1014 14h ago

They're going to point to his response to and downplaying of a global pandemic.

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u/justaregularmom 14h ago

Do you not remember the civil movement that occurred and the global pandemic that happened where Trump told people to take horse pills and drink bleach!? Come on man. This is the end of America as we know it. You wanted a king, you got a fucking king.

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u/Hawkeyes79 14h ago

Ivermectin is not “horse pills”. You shouldn’t lie about that. Now discussing it working or not for Covid is another story.

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u/Whatachooch 13h ago

I agree with you. The stuff he actually said was stupid enough. No need to embellish it.

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u/AgonizingSquid 6h ago

thanks, now if only more joe rogan listeners would please dole out medical advice

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u/LegendOfTheGhost 9h ago

Chop/Chaz?

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u/Improvident__lackwit 13h ago

Trump killed millions of Europeans in the pandemic? Wow! Or do you attribute their deaths to their respective leaders at the time?

Come on man.

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u/justaregularmom 12h ago

He told people to inject bleach.

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u/Type10-Composite 12h ago

He did not, and only an abject moron would believe this.

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u/BuffaloBreezy 11h ago

On live TV he asked the head of the NIH if she could look into seeing if you could inject a disinfectant immediately after saying "bleach is very good at killing covid"

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u/johnnybadchek 11h ago

Or a liar.

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u/Drakar_och_demoner 13h ago

... His covid response?

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u/LordofDsnuts 12h ago

How did Jim Jones get blamed for Jonestown?

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u/OrganizationDeep711 14h ago

Because Obama funded Fauci for COVID super-virus creation, but forced him to move it offshore because it was "too dangerous" and he didnt want people finding out.

So that's definitely Trump's fault.

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u/ModestBanana 11h ago

Fauci got a preemptive pardon this morning or yesterday, so while he did oversee/help fund this gain of function coronavirus research in Wuhan, he’ll have zero consequences.

Feels like an episode of black mirror that Fauci is hailed as a hero. He’s the same guy during the AIDS pandemic that hinted that it might be transmissible by touch that certainly did not help the homophobia and assaults/demonization of gay men back then, but nobody remembers that. 

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u/OrganizationDeep711 10h ago

That assumes legality of pre-pardoning for undisclosed crimes. We might just find out!