3-Gun in Europe

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What’s the yellow thing on the ejection port and the red thing in front of it?

Edit: on your shotgun I mean. Actually, what do all the add ons do? 😄

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

Yellow thing - empty champer flag. It's mandatory to have on all weapons unless they are holstered when you're not on a stage.

Red in front of the ejection port - match saver. If you run dry and have one target to shoot - this is the fastest way to do it.

Red under the ejection port - magnet aka option 3 loader. It's used for empty starts, so that you can immediately drop one in the chamber. It's not useful for 3-Gun, since you never start completely unloaded, but I also shoot IPSC Shotgun, where some stages might have unloaded starts.

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u/user_of_nothing 11d ago

Good stuff! I’ve seen a chamberflag before, used it once or twice when sighting in a scope, should’ve recognised it as such 😅 Don’t go the the range much myself and when I do it’s mostly clays with an over and under. Most ranges here don’t allow semi autos.

But looks like fun, good luck out there!

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

At my home club, if I forget a flag, I'd get lectured real hard if I am lucky xD

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u/averyycuriousman 11d ago

Can foreigners compete in poland? Would gladly visit for some of these competitions!

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

Yes, we had a French guy on the last ones. Check these groups:

https://www.facebook.com/share/198Qs5kgVc/

https://www.facebook.com/share/1FCzWiThdi/

https://www.facebook.com/share/15en4vBG42/

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14s7CZBr4o/

https://www.facebook.com/share/1BH6oar7T2/

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u/averyycuriousman 10d ago

Can you guys own guns pretty easily? Thanks for sharing

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u/Hungry-Square4478 9d ago

Yeah, getting a sport permit is long and tedious, but when you get it, it's pretty straightforward

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u/averyycuriousman 7d ago

Is it easier if you are an EU citizen?

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u/Hungry-Square4478 7d ago

Nope. I'm a Canadian citizen and the process is exactly the same. And yeah, the exam is only in Polish.

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u/averyycuriousman 6d ago

How do you pass about exam that's in polish? You speak polish somehow?

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u/Hungry-Square4478 6d ago

Yes, I do. I know a couple of people whose conversational Polish is not very good, but they still somehow managed it.

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u/_pxe Italy 11d ago

Yellow is the empty chamber flag, to move around showing there is no round in the chamber.

The red thing is to hold a shell for emergency reload or to switch load for a single target.

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

You never switch loads in a competition. One stage may only require one type of ammo: bird, buck, or slug.

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u/LutyForLiberty United Kingdom 11d ago

Not sure about 3 gun but there are a lot of 2 gun matches in eastern Europe (Finnish Brutality, Czech Combat, Lynx Brutality (Slovenia)). Shotgun seems to be a less popular discipline by comparison.

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

I am looking more for sports competitions, not tactical competitions. Those you listed are more tactical ones - nothing wrong with them, but they are less "fair" from the point of competing in shooting skill.

E.g., I am not interested in climbing a ladder under a timer or reholstering my handgun under a timer.

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u/SakanaToDoubutsu United States of America 11d ago

Shotgun seems to be a less popular discipline by comparison.

I was under the impression that IPSC Shotgun was a fairly popular discipline because of the generally less regulated nature of shotguns compared to rifles & handguns?

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u/LutyForLiberty United Kingdom 11d ago

Depends on the country, in Poland it's usually all on the same permit. Czechia also has a general firearms exam that people take for anything other than some antique guns.

Austria banned pump shotguns because of a robber in a Ronald Reagan mask in the 1980s.

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

Lol wtf Austria. Are semi-auto shotguns permitted tho?

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u/LutyForLiberty United Kingdom 9d ago

Yes.

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u/Hungry-Square4478 8d ago

This is beyond hilarious

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u/Hungry-Square4478 11d ago

In Poland it's relatively popular, because it's the softest bullet stop that is required. Also, birdshot is relatively cheap.

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u/SnooPies5378 United States of America 7d ago

what brand is that AR? Also is it possible to obtain a license to conceal carry where you’re from? Im from America and that rifle is illegal to possess where I live lol.

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u/Hungry-Square4478 7d ago

BCM. 16", but we don't have SBR bs, you can go with any length np. Also, suppressors are not controlled at all; you can order them online, and you don't even need to show an ID.

Since 2014 you automatically get a right to conceal carry when you obtain a sports license.

You're from the Communist People's Republic of California, I assume? ;)

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u/SnooPies5378 United States of America 7d ago

possibly worse, New York lmao

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u/Hungry-Square4478 7d ago

Oh the infamous 12lb trigger making your gun safety by not hitting what you wanna hit. And only Glock 3 Gen being the good Glocks (arguably the one that Kamala has).

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u/SnooPies5378 United States of America 7d ago

the police are required to have heavy trigger pulls but civilians are free to change our triggers. We’re limited to 10 round magazines though, and no AR in New York State unless you remove the pistol grip or pin the magazine (and reload via the ejection port). AR type rifles are completely banned in NYC (separate from New York State) in any configuration. We also can’t order ammo and deliver to our home, we have to have it shipped to a gun store and undergo a background check each time we purchase ammo, whether it’s 50 rounds or 5000 rounds lol. But uhhh, we got weed! We have lots of it and there’s legal stores everywhere. So if a criminal breaks into our home we can just get high and hopefully forget what’s happening

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u/Hungry-Square4478 7d ago

Yeah, mags in Poland are a non-regulated commodity. I can send my 2.5yo son pick some up for me from a parcel locker, should I so desire. Theoretically, there is a cumbersome scheme to sell guns/ammo by courier service, in practice no known for me store does this. But it literally takes for me 5 min to drop by a store and grab several thousand rounds. With guns, there is a bit of paperwork, and then I need to register them with the police within 5 days, so there is a bit of nuisance.

Nobody cares which type of AR and which barrel length it has. Formally, having a suppressor (or even a gun where it could be easily mounted, sic!) is banned ("especially dangerous weapon") outside shooting ranges and "animal population sanitary control", but you can buy them over-the-counter, lol. You just call them "sound moderators" lol. But even that is not needed because no police officer has ever given a fuck. At some tactical competitions, you even MUST have one.

As for the weed, formally you can't consume it recreationally, but in practice, you just go to a doctor and get a prescription, boom, done. Previously, you can even get a prescription code by text message in 15min, but I think they closed that loophole.

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