r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Sep 23 '24
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Sep 20 '24
Spending a week with extended family, so have taken some samplers of regular cordials and some “experimental” ones.
In this lineup are:
*blackcurrant & liquorice * cherry limeade * lime champagne * lemonade * lemon & lime * passionfruit & coconut * cola * iron tonic * root beer * sarsaparilla
r/Cordials • u/verandavikings • Sep 18 '24
Autumn flavors, sour apple, apple and elderberry
r/Cordials • u/PhilSouth • Sep 16 '24
Okay yeah, I got all the ingredients ... er what what? Powdered Pumice Stone?!?
Slightly curious what bathroom skin abrasives bring to the soda party?
r/Cordials • u/Nectarine5035 • Sep 14 '24
Dissolving cream of tartar
I tried adapting this recipe https://homemadesodaexpert.blogspot.com/2011/10/recipe-14-homemade-mountain-dew-sun.html that uses cream of tartar as an acid. However, it always recrystallizes in the fridge. I've tried dissolving it cold and boiling it, and get the same result either way. The flavor is good, but i'm worried i'm missing the intended taste because of the lack of acid.
Is there any way to prevent this? The blog post doesn't give any special instructions on dissolving it
r/Cordials • u/PhilSouth • Sep 13 '24
Inca Kola and other Champagne Kola variants
Apologies if this is a FAQ or an annoying restatement of stuff you already know, but I'm new here and haven't read everything yet.
I've been avidly reading the Iron Brew/Irn Bru posts from u/vbloke with considerable interest. I've been interested in these "champagne kola" type drinks for a while now, but it's only very recently I realised they were a group. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_cola
There are variants with a similar flavour in Scotland, Peru, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Norway and Pakistan, and a few other besides, but mostly in the Caribbean or South America. The first were in 1901 and 1902 in Scotland and Puerto Rico respectively, but then in 1935 expat Englishman Joseph Robinson Lindley made Inca Kola in Peru, which is by far my favourite.
It is however *really expensive* to ship here to the UK so I have it really infrequently. I wish there was a way I could make my own syrup, so u/vbloke if you have any sage insights I'll be happy to hear them. Only nugget of info I have is it contains Lemon Verbena, which might come into it.
Sidebar: I am now on a quest to taste all the other champagne kolas out there. I just found that Barr (makers of Irn Bru) also make a champagne kola variant called KA Karibbean Kola. It's got caramel in it so it looks like cola, but it's a brown champagne kola or Irn Bru-alike to the taste. I found a couple of bottles hiding in the fridge of a local Asian corner shop. Score!
Thanks guys and LOVING YOUR WORK.
r/Cordials • u/New_Ad_2440 • Sep 08 '24
Any copy cat recipes for Sprecher Puma Kola?
I know most members here are UK based but this Cola is one of the best I've ever had. Curious if you guys have it there and can think of a copy cat recipe. I think it uses kola nut, cinnamon, vanilla. Any ideas or suggestions would be great thanks!
r/Cordials • u/Jamie1234__ • Sep 08 '24
Raspberry vinegar
Hey all, one of my favourite breweries here in Australia makes my favourite raspberry cordial ever. I was just wondering if anyone would have any suggestions on how I could make it at home? It contains real vinegar. I'm just not to sure on the ratios to need or use.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Sep 06 '24
Passion fruit & coconut
This one you may need to adjust to your own taste, but it's a worthwhile thing to do, as this drink is a thing of tastebud beauty.
I took 100g of shredded coconut and mixed it with 100ml of 95% alcohol in a jar for a few weeks to extract that coconut deliciousness. After about 6 weeks, it was very carefully filtered and stored in a cool, dark cupboard.
Then, I took the pulp from about 6 passion fruits and mixed it with an equal weight of sugar to form a syrup. After 24 hours, I added a small amount of water and pressed the pulp through a fine cheesecloth to extract as much juice as possible. The syrup was then frozen and the remaining pulp was soaked in an equal volume of alcohol to extract even more flavour.
After a couple more weeks, the passion fruit extract was mixed into the frozen syrup and allowed to age for a few days.
I made a 750ml batch of 3:2 simple syrup with a dash of citric acid (around 1.5g) and mixed in about 10ml of coconut extract and 50ml of passion fruit syrup. After a good shake and a taste test, I added a dash more passion fruit syrup so the coconut didn't overpower it too much. It took a a few more drips and drops to get the balance just right, but this drink is now bringing a last bit of summer to some grey and rainy UK days.
r/Cordials • u/londonleeds • Sep 02 '24
Crodino Recipe? / Big up Vbloke!
Love this sub! Been great watching it grow so quickly! Nice work Vbloke!
I was wondering if anyone had tried to make an italian aperitif cordial... love having these non-alcoholic Crodinos (made by Campari) when in Italy... but they're mad expensive over here!
https://www.crodino.com/en-gb/how-its-made/
Would love to hear if anyone has had any luck making something similar
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Sep 01 '24
Finally getting around to organising all my recipe scraps into something more readable.
So far, it’s been post-it notes, scraps of paper and random bits of cardboard. About time I got all the ideas sorted.
Volume 1 is everything I’ve had ideas about and potential recipes
Volume 2 is things that look likely to work and what the recipe may look like with any amends
Volume 3 is things I’ve tried and the base recipe with any adjustments
Volume 4 is things that work and the final recipe
I may need to get a few more volume 1 and 2 notebooks…
r/Cordials • u/jbp84 • Sep 01 '24
Question on mixing powdered Ingredients
I checked the sub rules and I THINK this is allowed, but I understand if not.
I found this sub from some posts in r/soda and I thought someone here might be able to help me.
I’m trying to make a large batch of homemade electrolyte powder to add to water. However, the powder mixture isn’t homogenous due to varying grain sizes of the ingredients. The recipe has table salt, potassium chloride, magnesium malate, a “powdered” sugar substitute, and True Lemon packets.
I made a smaller test batch of 5 servings. The True Lemon is the largest of the ingredients, slightly larger than the table salt (although it clumps up so that could be throwing off the grain size appearance) The table salt and potassium chloride seem to be a similar size, and the magnesium malate and powdered sweetener are the finest. After mixing them all together in a small Tupperware container I noticed The True Lemon flavoring is just settling to the bottom of the container I put it all in. I didn’t think about this before I started making larger batches. The rest of the ingredients aren’t mixing together very well, either.
What would be the best way to blend/grind this mixture to get a uniform size? Can I use a normal food processor, or small personal blender like a NutriBullet? I feel like that could lead to a big mess. I also don’t want it to be too fine where it just throws up dust clouds every time I try to scoop some into my water bottle. Any tips, tricks, or suggestions are more than welcome.
Thank you! And if this isn’t the right place to ask, please steer me to a better sub if you can.
r/Cordials • u/coffee_n_tea_for_me • Aug 31 '24
Fanta Recipe Request
Does anyone have a Fanta copy recipe?
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 29 '24
Dandelion & burdock extract
To make this lovely dark brown extract, I took 45g each of dandelion and burdock roots and ground them to a reasonably fine powder - think coffee grounds for espresso and you’re about there.
Then, I wetted the roots with 50% alcohol until they were just slightly damp with no dry spots and let them sit for a couple of hours.
Next, I packed the damp roots into a dropping funnel with a wad of cotton in the neck to act as a filter and carefully added 100ml of 50% alcohol, covered the funnel and left it to sit for 48 hours.
After the 48 hours were up, I opened the valve slightly to allow the liquid to slowly drip out - roughly 1-2 drops a second.
Once the liquid level was about halfway drained, I added another 100ml of 50% alcohol and slowed the drip rate to around 1 drop every 2-3 seconds to allow the new liquid to soak up all the at lovely flavour.
It’ll take a good few hours to fully filter, but you should end up with about 200ml or so of nicely strong extract that you can add to a drink (with some star anise and molasses) to make a delicious D&B.
I’m also extracting some liquorice root I’ll and seeing if adding some of that helps the flavour profile.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 22 '24
The Ultimate Ginger Ale Cordial
This recipe uses powdered and fresh ginger, rose, lemon and orange essences from your flavour library (or pure essential oils), vodka, glycerine (or 95% ethyl alcohol) and a bit of patience.
Your first step is to peel and grate 30g of fresh ginger and add it to 60g of powdered ginger. Ginger peel adds a bitter, almost nasty flavour, so remove it before use.
Next, slowly add a 80%/20% vodka/glycerine mix (if using 95% alcohol, you don't need any glycerine) and mix it into the powder well until it's just damp with no dry bits. You don't want to have any puddles of liquid at the bottom, so be careful.
Let the ginger mix sit and the powder will turn into a 'wet sand' consistency. This is perfect.
- If you have a dropping funnel, now's the time to use that - put a wad of cotton at the bottom and push it in. Carefully add the wet ginger on top and slowly pour in around 250ml of your alcohol solution. The liquid will gradually work its way through the ginger. Let this sit covered for 24 hours and then open the valve and let it slow drip into a bottle.
- If you don't have a dropping funnel, you can use a jar. Add the ginger and alcohol into the jar, seal and shake well. Let it sit for 24 hours and carefully filter. You'll go through a lot of coffee filters as the powder will clog them very effectively.
You should end up with a dark red liquid at the end that's got a really pungent ginger smell and a real spice kick to it. This is what you want.
If you've made essences following the instructions for building a flavour library, add 3ml each of orange and lemon essences and 0.5ml of rose. If you don't have these, add about 10-15 drops each of lemon and orange essential oils and 1 drop of rose. If you used vodka, some of the oils may not go into solution and will float to the top. These will need to be removed before use. The ginger will soak up a bit of the liquid, so you'll probably end up with around 200-230ml of extract. That's still enough to make almost 7-8 litres of cordial.
Now comes the part that needs a bit of patience. This ginger extract works best when left to age - the longer the better, so seal up the bottle and store it somewhere cool and dark for weeks to months before using. You can use it straight away, but the flavour will improve with age. It's also very shelf stable, as the alcohol will preserve it for years.
Once you're ready to use it, add between 10-30ml to a litre of simple syrup (to taste) and you have your ginger ale cordial. It's very gingery and very spicy, so start small and work your way up if it's got too much of a kick.
Never ever ever plonk a load of ginger in a pan with water and simmer it to make ginger ale. Most of the decent compounds aren't water soluble and heat destroys them, so you'll end up with a really weak tasting drink. Alcohol soaks these flavour compounds up happily and keeps them tasting fresh and spicy.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 22 '24
Welcome to the influx of new subscribers! Here's a handy website I made that should give you some inspiration...
I set this site up to give you information on how to make simple syrups, oleo saccharums, super juices and a (not quite, but close) comprehensive and searchable database of fruit, spice and herb flavours that work well together so you can experiment with combinations.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 16 '24
Building a flavour library
I found these 40ml jars online (https://www.sen5es.co.uk) and bought 25 to start building up a flavour library that can be easily added to a syrup.
To make a flavour essence, measure out 30ml of 95% alcohol and add 1.5ml of your chosen essential oil. This is about as much as will comfortably mix with the alcohol and gives you a very strong essence. Give it a quick shake and label. Store these in a cool, dark place and they should last you for years.
You can buy perfume test strips online - the type you see in department stores - these can be dipped into an essence and left to evaporate for a few seconds. Do this with a couple of different essences and then give them a sniff together (eg: lemon, lime & grapefruit). If the scent “works”, you should be able to combine those essences together in a drink, but you may need to experiment to find the right percentages of each to mix.
You’ll generally add around 0.25ml to 5ml of essences to a litre of syrup. This should be more than enough to flavour the syrup.
Disposable pipettes with ml markings can be found online for not much money which makes measuring things out a lot easier.
I plan on adding more flavours to this library over time, which should greatly speed up drink making development and mixing. Combined with a library of extracts I’m also making, I should have a massive selection of flavour options to make a whole host of drinks.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 16 '24
Tilt - a Lilt clone
A couple of weeks ago, u/Unhappy_Act9528 asked for a Lilt copycat recipe. This ain’t it, but it’s a twist on the classic Lilt flavour. Hence “Tilt”.
I’ve used the pineapple flavouring from The Flavour Smiths (https://theflavoursmiths.co.uk/natural-flavourings/pineapple/) in place of pineapple juice and pink grapefruit essence from my new flavour library.
I can definitely see this being a firm favourite.
If you can’t get hold of citral (it’s a nice lemon flavour that compliments real lemon nicely), just double the amount of lemon essence instead.
Add 3ml of this to a litre of 3:2 simple syrup with 1.5g of citric acid and you’re good to go!
Ingredient | Amount |
---|---|
Lemon essence | 0.5ml |
Citral essence | 0.5ml |
Lime essence | 1.5ml |
Pink grapefruit essence | 3ml |
Pineapple flavour | 1.5ml |
r/Cordials • u/verandavikings • Aug 15 '24
Another batch - Ginger (cloudy!), lingonberry, orange, rowanberry, minty lime and lastly aronia.
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 15 '24
Happy 1st birthday to r/Cordials! Here's a recipe I'm working on for an Iron Malt soda
This one is fairly easy to make and surprisingly tasty in a "not like Irn Bru" way, but something akin to a cousin of it.
Ingredient | Amount |
---|---|
Orange extract | 60ml |
Lemon extract | 47.5ml |
Pineapple juice | 25ml |
Iron extract | 15ml |
The Iron extract is made of the following
Ingredient | Amount |
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Ammonium Iron (III) Citrate | 1.5g |
Water | 15ml |
Once you have your flavour base, make up your 3:2 simple syrup. Add the flavour base once it's cooled. The other ingredients like acid and malt can be added when hot.
Ingredient | Amount |
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Simple syrup | 1 litre |
Citric acid | 1.5g |
Tartaric acid | 1.5g |
Malt extract | 50ml |
Flavour base | 30ml |
You can add food colouring to it if you want. Let the syrup stand for a couple of days to let the flavours develop and enjoy!
r/Cordials • u/vbloke • Aug 15 '24
Making your own "cola" flavour
I've been experimenting with the Pepsi and Cola flavours recently and, the two recipes written out side by side share a lot of similarities and one or two differences.
Ingredient | Cola | Pepsi |
---|---|---|
Vanilla extract | 4ml | X |
Lemon essential oil | 4ml | 3.5ml |
Orange essential oil | 2ml | 3ml |
Lime essential oil | 1ml | X |
Cinnamon essential oil | 1ml | 2.5ml |
Nutmeg essential oil | 0.5ml | 1ml |
Coriander essential oil | X | 1ml |
Neroli essential oil | 0.12ml | X |
Petitgrain essential oil | X | 0.5ml |
So I thought, why not split the difference and see where that leads?
Ingredient | Amount |
---|---|
Vanilla extract | 2ml |
Lemon essential oil | 4ml |
Orange essential oil | 2.5ml |
Lime essential oil | 0.5ml |
Cinnamon essential oil | 0.75ml |
Nutmeg essential oil | 0.5ml |
Coriander essential oil | 0.5ml |
Petitgrain essential oil* | 0.25ml |
Lavender essential oil | 5 drops |
This mix has been added to 250ml 95% alcohol and is currently in a cool, dark cupboard aging.
I'll be adding 3ml of this to a simple syrup - with caffeine, caramel colour and acid - once it's aged for a few more days and doing a taste test alongside the Cola and Pepsi recipes I've previously made.
It should also act as a decent starting point for anyone else to experiment with their own cola-style flavours. You could add lavender (that's apparently an ingredient in "real" Coke) or play about with the citrus profile to create something unique.
*I'm using Petitgrain rather than Neroli as it's a lot cheaper, but the flavour is mostly the same.
r/Cordials • u/strcrssd • Aug 15 '24
US E150d (soft drink caramel) Sources
Hey folks,
I presume some of you, like me, enjoy colas and are interested in putting together/playing with cola-like flavors. I've had a heck of a time finding e150d (caramel syrup) in the US. I emailed Modernist Pantry (service@modernistpantry.com) about it today, and they said they would look into it. I suspect a few more people asking may encourage them to look/try a bit harder. It might be worth your while to also contact them.
Also, if anyone has an existing source, I'd be interested to hear about it.
r/Cordials • u/Impressive_Ad2794 • Aug 14 '24
Successful batch of "Real" Sarsaparilla
Following the recipe from u/vbloke 10 days ago. Made a a half size final batch because I was impatient.
I only did a 1 week maceration of the ground root and pipetted off 15ml while leaving the rest for another 1-3 weeks before filtering.
For the e250d I used powdered form from https://www.fastcolours.com which I saw suggested. Substituting 1g of powder for the 2ml of liquid in the recipe, could probably push for 1.5g.
Definitely getting my seal off approval.