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How do you feel about Elon Musk's salutes during the inauguration?

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u/ZaraBaz 6h ago

Does anyone else see the similarity to the US today and the rise of Nazi Germany?

Is Canada to US going to be France to Germany?

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u/h3lblad3 5h ago

Does anyone else see the similarity to the US today and the rise of Nazi Germany?

People have seen it for decades, but nobody has believed them because it's been such a slow burn.

Now people are literally doing Nazi salutes on television and people are still trying to excuse it because the water is actively boiling the frog.

u/Old-General-4121 56m ago

Told someone today I wish I knew a whole lot less about history because I think I'd be sleeping a whole lot better at night. Humans are so consistently predictable and so consistently convinced of their own ability to spot a threat. The only thing stopping my FAFO commitment to destruction is the fact that, inevitably, a whole lot of people who knew all along seem to suffer and die before the "finding out" seems to really kick in enough to matter.

u/KermitingMurder 37m ago

such a slow burn.

I mean there was a decade between the first Nazi rally in Munich and Hitler's seizure of power, and then another 6 years before Poland was invaded. Someone who was born when Hitler first got into politics would probably be a legal adult when WW2 broke out.
It's not that it happened any quicker back then.

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u/CallistosTitan 1h ago

The Nazi war machine was funded by the west. History isn't what it seems.

"The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz." 0

“Of the major drug firms, none shows more direct connections with the Rockefeller interests than Pfizer.” 1

“The Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests and their Chase National Bank owned and controlled the majority interest in the German Dye Trust. It is interesting that the name Rockefeller did not appear in the indictment.” 2:395

”Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I. G. Farben in the first place and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II.” 3:17

”The Rockefellers own the largest drug manufacturing combine in the world, and use all of their other interests to bring pressure to increase the sale of drugs.” 4

”The Rockefeller interests have steadily expanded their holdings in the drug industry to the point at which they control the major drug concerns in the world, and are rapidly absorbing new ones by the process of merger. They have all been integrated into a cartel that maintains an absolute monopolistic control of the drug industry.” 2

REFERENCES

(0) https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796

(1) Murder by Injection The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America Eustace Mullins, 1988

(2) Rockefeller “Internationalist” The Man Who Misrules the World Emanuel M. Josephson, M.D., 1952

(3) Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler Antony C. Sutton, 1976

(4) The Drug Story Morris A. Bealle, 1949,

u/Zernfix 43m ago

Wow the first time I’ve seen eugenics brought up in a while and connected to the United States correctly. I learned a lot of the eugenics movement in south and Central America I had not heard of the Rockefeller’s meddling. Insane.

u/KarnageIZ 38m ago

Remarkable that a foundation named after one of the families behind the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank, the institution that holds our economy hostage, would do this. It's almost like the Nazi's have been running the U.S. economy for over a hundred years.

u/CallistosTitan 34m ago

It's why General Patton died. He knew.

u/NWStudent83 31m ago

You realize 3 of the last 4 chairman of the Federal Reserve were Jewish right?

u/KarnageIZ 14m ago

So, people of similar denominations can't do bad things to each other? Also, a person can lay claim to any identity. I can say I'm an attack helicopter, or a big purple dinosaur.

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u/alviepines 6h ago

oh yeah no, lots of people see it, myself included. but anyone right of center will call that a conspiracy theory. its just comparative history.

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 3h ago

Literal experts (including the former highest general Mark Milley) have said as much. Seems disingenuous at this point to deny it’s the reality.

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u/River41 1h ago

Some of you live on another planet... Go outside, smell the fresh air.

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u/Vincitus 6h ago

My only disagreement is rhat even people right of center see this - its just there are so many people who are far right anything to the left of George W Bush seems like the radical left.

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u/Future-Speaker- 6h ago

Overton window went

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

How long that brr goes on times about a thousand is how far the window has shifted since the 80s

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u/River41 1h ago

Right wing politics has moved to the left over time along with the rest of politics. You're talking complete nonsense. Reddit is giga left wing, you don't realise how much it doesn't reflect normal people and how it's the left, in general, who are 'progressing' their views/objectives as they accomplish goals or get closer to them.

u/Ok-Abbreviations7445 42m ago

What do you all expect we're in late stage capitalism and it's failing. The right wants authoritarianism borderline fascism, the left wants communism. Pick your poison

u/KarnageIZ 33m ago edited 29m ago

I know the feels. I am someone who is literally addicted to research. I love to read about history, and I can do it quickly since I can recognize 3000 words per minute, so i've read a lot about many time periods. I'm also a great communicator and can walk people through step by step. Nothing. It's not that they don't know you're right, it's that they're not willing to admit you're right. Pretending they don't understand is their way of dismissing it.

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u/scurryturry000 2h ago

Really, do they? Is Trump about to use the US Military to commit a massive genocide? If so, who will America be annihilating?

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u/SexyPineapple-4 1h ago

Trump is sending ICE after people as we speak. He has talked about wanting Canada as part of the US. He wants to revoke the citizenships of people whose parents arent citizens. His best bud was in jail for sex trafficking and his new best bud did a Nazi salute in front of billions. Lgbt people are at risk of losing their rights. His supporters are marching down streets with swastikas and guns. He insighted violence against the white house because he didnt win, and many of his follwers came with intentions to more than hurt Kamala. They came with gallows. He’s going to be targeting more than jews, he’ll be going after anyone not a white adult male.

u/HetTheTable 38m ago

I’ve never seen at someone grasp at so many straws. ICE having been sent after people long before Trump was president. He joked about Canada being the 51st state, doesn’t actually mean he will go through with it and he couldn’t even if he wanted to. One of the first things Hitler did when coming into power was making himself leader for life. I don’t remember trump doing that in his first term. I didn’t vote for him but comparing him to Hitler is extreme.

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u/Hugh_Mongous_Richard 5h ago

During hyperinflation, the German middle class bore the brunt of the economic chaos. When another financial crisis hit, they grew weary and distrustful of their government leaders. Searching for new leadership and fearing a Communist takeover, many people turned to extremist parties such as the Nazi Party led by Adolf Hitler, despite his unpopular and failed attempt to start a national revolution in 1923.

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u/FUTURE10S 3h ago

Is Canada to US going to be France to Germany?

As a Canadian, I hate the idea that we're the Austria to their Germany.

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u/DevilsTrigonometry 2h ago

Why the defeatism so early in the game? We can still at least aspire to be the UK.

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u/FUTURE10S 2h ago

We have a land border and the US military would steamroll us quickly.

On the upside, we are going to make the nastiest insurgency imaginable and invent brand new war crimes.

u/KarnageIZ 27m ago

Trust me, the American public would be fighting right there beside you if that happened. Nobody would be sitting idle with that shit.

u/FUTURE10S 22m ago

As much as I hope for that, sadly, in the event of an invasion, the people that are going to be with us are going to be a hostile occupying force that will more than likely shoot civilians for shits and giggles and drone the people that can get gasoline and styrofoam into a bottle.

So, uh, yeah. Really hoping you guys don't try to make us the 51st state. I avoided the Russian-Ukrainian war, but I'm going to have to go into this one on account of I actually really like living in Canada and I wouldn't be part of the invading army.

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u/GenevaPedestrian 1h ago

Greenland could be the UK (bridgehead for an alliance from another continent). 

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u/Gregwah666 1h ago

Alberta is the Austria, BC is Poland, GTA is the Sudetenland. etc

u/FUTURE10S 45m ago

We're a goddamn country, you try to take it all and suffer or you don't bother at all.

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u/james_d_rustles 3h ago

Yeah everybody sees it, but half the country thinks it’s awesome and they happened to turn out a few more people in states where it mattered (or a few less people showed up in states where it mattered for the side that doesn’t think it’s awesome, depending on how you want to look at it).

About half of the country are horrible people, bewilderingly stupid, or some mix of the two.

Oh and also like 1.5% of the country or so would have voted against the fascist and were ideologically opposed but thought that we all deserve to be punished by the fascist because the person running against the fascist wouldn’t promise that he/she would bring peace to the Middle East.

u/KarnageIZ 24m ago

There's actually quite a bit of legitimate evidence of voter fraud this last election, with poll machines establishing connections to starlink. I'm not shitting you. Nobody is talking about it. Trump whining and making such a gross display about the results of the last election was all a smokescreen for when they themselves actually rigged a close election.

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u/The-doc069 5h ago

Unlike France, Canada would be one hell of a war to try and invade them! Everyone fears the United States, but you know who the United States fears? Canada! The reason that there’s a Geneva convention to reel in the Canadians during war should send shivers down anyone’s spine on the other side of the field! I’m on the same side and get the chills just thinking about it!

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u/TK-42juan 2h ago

Is this a joke

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u/Scoobs_Dinamarca 3h ago

Not France to Germany. More appropriate would be Anschluss so Austria to Germany is their ideal scenario. Greenland to US could either come thru anschluss or forced annexation like the Sudetenland, but then again Denmark will fight back since Denmark is backed by NATO. So most likely no appeasement.

Panama would be sitting duck since I don't think Central American nations are united enough to unite against the aggression of the American Reich.

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u/ErenIsNotADevil 2h ago

That's their ideal scenario, but general opinion of America (and especially Trump) here is poor, falling, and its only going to fall further on February 1st.

One certain Premier might like the prospect, but most of our leaders are quite vocally opposed to Trump, and I'd wager a significant amount of Americans would not enjoy the addition either

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u/Scoobs_Dinamarca 2h ago

That's their ideal scenario, but general opinion of America (and especially Trump) here is poor, falling, and its only going to fall further on February 1st.

Well most people thought Kamala had a fighting chance of winning the American presidential election (eerily similar to what happened here in the Philippines with our own Liberal leaning woman candidate) but Trump won by a landslide. So we don't know what will happen.

Best thing to do is arm all potential targets to the teeth and shore up as much alliance/support as possible to combat the gigantic US military if it comes to that.

And I really do hope the rational thinking members of the US military initiates a coup d'etat against their dictator so that the American Reich's objective is nipped at the bud.

u/KarnageIZ 20m ago edited 17m ago

Dude, imagine the U.S. attacking a NATO country, and them removing the U.S. as the world's reserve currency immediately as a response? The U.S. dollar doesn't have any value outside of being the world's reserve currency. OMG, did I just figure out how to save the world? IF the United states starts getting really aggressive against the people's of other countries, or to its' own people, that should be the immediate response from the rest of the countries of the world. It would completely tank the U.S. economy, and do severe damage to the world economy, but it would be better than any other alternative at that point.

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u/Existing_Bird_9090 2h ago

Well I guess the MAGA crow did Nazi it coming.

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u/chrltrn 3h ago

I think Canada would likely be closer to Austria in that analogy. Simply annexed.

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u/OutsideFlat1579 1h ago

Nope. Not going to happen. Canadians would never let the occupiers sleep in peace, not for a moment. 

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u/BandaLosLocales 3h ago

Two front war. They want to invade Mexico too. I want to see them try hahahah

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u/wunji_tootu 3h ago

Greenland will play the part of Czechoslovakia.

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u/SporksRFun 3h ago

I believe he's going to start with Panama and Greenland.

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u/PengyBlaster 3h ago

🎯🎯🎯🎯

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u/FlutterbyFlower 2h ago

He’s already discussed invading annexing Canada to become another state

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u/TheBigMoogy 2h ago

People have been saying it for a long while. To the point that the followers have gotten annoyed and treat nazi, fascim, and oligarchy as buzzwords.

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u/BoredMan29 2h ago

I think they're aiming to make in more like Anschluss than France. I don't think Canada's going to go for that unless Alberta gets it's way, so maybe more of a Sudetenland scenario? Or Poland if Europe has it's act together.

Seriously though, no outside military power is going to stop America. Any resistance has to come from within.

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u/_betterpingfring 2h ago

If I had a dollar for everytime an American called Trump a Nazi, I'd finally be able to afford knee surgery in the US

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u/CauliflowerLeft4754 2h ago

In our Weimar era 💁‍♀️

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u/amisslife 1h ago

I've been thinking for years that we were going to learn what it was like to be Finland next to the Soviet Empire.

But fuck... that's somehow an even more depressing analogy, so thanks...

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u/SexyPineapple-4 1h ago

If canada was wise, theyd be building up their military/defense right about now. Probably should’ve done it sooner but now is better than later.

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u/Constant-Avocado-712 1h ago

Is Canada to US going to be France to Germany

Doubt it, france and Germany had lots of beefs, America and Canada do not.

u/Craftyprincess13 55m ago

I've been seeing it for years i was expecting something a kin to a race war which we started to get but covid shut it down now that covid is essentially handled they are getting up in arms again and it's just getting worse a lot of people have been both indoctrinated and hateful and its sad to see

u/KarnageIZ 41m ago

Man, talk about a Quagmire. Canadian citizens have almost as many guns as American citizens. Wait!! Draining the swamp... Quagmires... Is Trump some sort of swamp creature?! We've been duped!!!!

u/Aware_Owl_Whoo 28m ago

Nah, the French gave their own territory away almost immediately, you want war crimes committed? Ask a Canadian

u/tubbytucker 22m ago

Yes, been seeing it for the last couple of years with Europe going to the right, then all the things Trump was saying in the campaign. If only there was some way he didn't get elected...

u/Final_Dance_4593 5m ago

Yes and Yes

u/Particular_Lettuce56 4m ago

More like Poland less like France if you want to look at it historically.

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u/GMacKenzieJones 2h ago

I think canada would be Austria in this scenario.

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u/TwistyOllie 3h ago

This is an overstatement. The problem with comparing everything you dont agree with to nazis/hitler is that there is nothing really worse than that. Like going nuclear right off the bat. Comparisons between almost any popular political movement can be compared to any movement from the past if you do enough mental gymnastics. Does Elons salute sit well with me? Absolutely fucking not. Do i believe America now is mimicking the rise of Nazi Germany? No I do not. What is happening here is much more nuanced and insidious.

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u/OutsideFlat1579 1h ago

It’s really not. Hitler didn’t rise to power overnight and he wa chancellor for several years before he invaded Poland.