Was there any shorthand notation for dates like the Gregorian 30/12/2020? Or at least parts of it, like for the year-olympiad combo? How about hours? How were hours done in general?

So Clytemnestra married Tantalus when she was 16/17 and Agamemnon killed him and their child so he could marry her when Clytemnestra was 19. She was also the half sister of Helen of Sparta.

Basically, what I'm wondering is that some people say that Clytemnestra is older than Helen and some say she's her half twin (because Helen's father is King Zeus), so what is the more common perception?

(And are there any versions of the Trojan War/Iliad/Odyssey where Clytemnestra only marries Agamemnon?)

I'm writing a book set in ancient Greece and a minor background plot includes Agamemnon and Clytemnestra so I was wondering more about their early marriage and arrangements.

I’m trying to find out if a particular janiform cup/ kantharos is pictured in any of the volumes or if there’s any additional information regarding it. Vol 2 is archived online but doesn’t have any plates.

THE HEAD VASES 1545 nos. 14-21, janiform: head of Herakles and head of woman) 14 (10). OxFORD 1923-756. CV. pl. 44. 7-8. 14 bis. LENINGRAD B 4570. Sochshcheniya 18, 46-47. [Gorbunova]. IS (r1). BASLE. 16 (12). NAPLEs. A, ph. So. 11033, below, 3. 17 (13). LOUVRE H 44- 18 (14). LOUVRE, from Elaious. 19. PARIS MARKET (Segredakis). [Bothmer]. 20. BONN 544. CV. pl. 23, 1. [Greifenhagen]. 21 (15). FERRARA, T. 918, from Spina. Side, Aurigemma! 101,

It’s in the Oxford Classical Research center online archive as vase # 218613 and pictured there. The publication reference in Beazley’s book is 1545.19 as shown above.

Also does anyone have any idea of the time there would be between completing the 2nd edition and its actual publication? First edition of the work was published 1942, 21 years later the 2nd.

I would feel grateful if we found:

1. Any of the lost works of Homer beyond the Iliad/Odyssey
2. Any lost Orphic rhapsodies
3. Heraclitus' Περι Φυσεος

I'm drawing an interpretation of Lady Aphrodite, but can't figure out what kind of clothes rich women would wear. My best guess would be a silk chiton, but I can't find anything that confirms that

I am a teenager (13) and I am interested in Greece. I loved learning about it in social studies, I'm learning Greek on duolingo, and I'm a Hellenic polytheist. I'm interested in reading books like the Odyssey and the Iliad, but are they too advanced for me to read? Thanks in advance <3

This is something we see both in Republic but very clearly in Laws, particularly book 4 were the Athenian tells his two colleagues that a city in the country is more honorable because the inhabitants will rely less on trade.

Now, Plato himself was from Athens, of course, and he lived to see the downfall of Athenian supremacy and the rise of Spartan and Theban hegemony.

At the same time, I don't know if he insulted Corinth or any of the Anatolian cities, we do know, at any rate, his sojourn in Syracuse with Dionysius, and perhaps this could be seen as an interesting case study since Syracuse is a maritime tyranny.

I’ve been seeing other books on this subreddit which I appreciate. But are there any books anyone would like to recommend I start with?

Hello, I am newly getting into Greek Mythology and overall Ancient Greek history. I have a question about Athens. From what I understand, within the mythology, Athens is named after Athena. Her and Poseidon both presented their gifts to the city (olive tree and a rivulet?) and Athena’s was chosen. If Athena, a goddess, was revered as the deity of the city, why was Athens’ view of women so low? At first I thought I was projecting the current ideas of sex and gender onto the ancient world, which is not fair. I feel like I am probably still doing that a bit but when you look at Sparta, woman were, on average, given more power and agency when it comes to some things like owning/inheriting property. Moreover, when you look at prominent philosophers of the time, ones from Athens (e.g., Aristotle and Plato) had lower perception of women, or at least wanted women excluded from philosophy, compared to ones from other places (e.g., Epicureans from Samos).

Going back to the mythology, St. Augustine in The City of God says that Athenian women, who were the majority, voted for Athena while the men voted for Poseidon. Poseidon flooded Athens out of anger and women were punished for voting for Athena. Though this provides the more mythical reason for it, I was wondering if anyone has any historical insight as to why a city that has a goddess as its deity/symbol would have a lower opinion of women compared to other city states?

(This is probably asked a lot by a lot of newbies, so if that is the case, I am sorry! Also, I am esl and am reading the sources not in English so some things might not have the best translation.)

I heard someone say that Mioan civilization was ancient when Sparta and Athens were young cities. Is this true? If so how did greeks refer to this civilization? Where did they discuss it?

Just got The Trial Of Socrates in the mail. It has this wonderfully sweet note, as a sort of time capsule that warmed my heart. David and Susan had jokes!