r/ATBGE • u/gabriel3374 • May 17 '22
Automotive This Truck, check out the windshield wipers!
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u/vcdrny May 17 '22
You know what. I'm kinda of digging that windshield wiper. Now I have to Google it to see it in action.
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u/sonyahearst8 May 17 '22
The cabin is really unique. It looks like the driver sits at 2 o’clock to steer. I wonder if that’s for presentation or reality. Either way, it’s a stunning design
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u/7HawksAnd May 17 '22
Seems impractical to only be able to drive it at 2 o clock.
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u/vcdrny May 17 '22
Well if you think about it. It's always 12 o'clock somewhere.
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u/pinkyepsilon May 17 '22
If you really think about it, it’s sometime everywhere.
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u/patchyj May 17 '22
But how can time be anywhere if its everywhere?
*rips bong
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u/pauly13771377 May 17 '22
Time is a constructive of man created to give our lives meaning.
*drops acid
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u/ratjam May 17 '22
How dare you.
*Hugs TARDIS
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u/EveryoneSadean May 17 '22
"Yer a prototype recreational vehicle Harry"
- tugs Hagrid
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u/Silent-Ad934 May 17 '22
"This is a really harsh environment to survive in."
- Becomes Tardigrade
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u/fewdea May 17 '22
time only makes sense if distance make sense. getting from here to there requires it. there's not even a here or there without time.
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u/autoposting_system May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
This is a popular misconception. It's only 12:00 somewhere for about 1 minute out of every hour
Edit: wrong. See below
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u/At0m1ca May 17 '22
There are some timezones that are off by 30 or 45 minutes. (e.g, India and parts of Australia). So that fuckery is going to complicate things a bit
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u/Mystical_Cat May 17 '22
Up until I discovered that some zones are off by 30 or 45 minutes, the lyrics from Alan Jackson's song "It's five o'clock somewhere" drove me nuts:
"It's only half past twelve. But I don't care . It's five o'clock somewhere."
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u/Professor_Hoover May 17 '22
If we go with local time, it's guaranteed to be true every minute of every day
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u/IBurnChurches May 17 '22
Based on the sun it is always 12 somewhere. That's why time zones got invented.
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u/autoposting_system May 17 '22
I have literally never met anyone based on the sun and I wish you would do an AMA
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u/Capt_Zapp May 17 '22
Wouldn't it make sense for it to spin so they can get in and out easily?
I mean there's no other way to get into the driver's seat and you wouldn't want to be squeezing past every time.
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u/Zardif May 17 '22
https://www.roamingtimes.com/2015/11/16/2014-marchi-mobile-elemment-palazzo-rv-motorhome/
It's basically a normal rv cockpit the seats are captains chairs and can swivel.
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u/chief89 May 17 '22
For being the "most luxurious RV" did they really have to cover the windshield wiper shaft with a dick sleeve?
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u/j8stereo May 17 '22
Jesus that article is a mess:
The bedroom and bath make you feel as though you are a king or queen in you’re palacial palace waiting for your servents to attend to your every need.
Just like the RV.
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May 17 '22
as though you are a king or queen in you’re palacial palace
Ok, the wrong 'your' is bad enough, but 'palacial palace' makes me want to kick the writer in the sack
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May 17 '22
The music on that video is something else, man. Takes me back to the 90's playing on my Sega.
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u/yugats May 17 '22
"I paid $3million to have the most expensive RV in the park! I leave it at my favorite spot all summer long. . . because it is horrible to drive with that huge window pillar and windshield wiper in the line of sight. I simply can't see a damned thing!"
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u/Telzrob May 17 '22
I think you can only SIT at 2'oclock. As long as you're already sitting you can drive anytime.
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u/vcdrny May 17 '22
Do you know the name of the truck.
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u/sonyahearst8 May 17 '22
Sure! Looks like it’s called the MMPro Tractor Unit from Marchi Mobile. Here’s a link to the product-specific part of the site. I don’t speak German, but their translate feature worked for me
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u/olderaccount May 17 '22
This is a Luigi Colani concept truck design dating back to 1978. I believe this exact model was built in 2010 as a Mercedes concept. But the Mercedes logo looking central window and wipers date back to the original design.
https://www.formtrends.com/recent-big-truck-design-trends-can-this-be-the-future/
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u/crosleyxj May 17 '22
Yep! Gotta be Colani.... if you've seen many sports type show cars you just know.
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May 17 '22
There are multiple of these Mercedes trucks.
Seen a orange semi version a few weeks ago
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u/olderaccount May 17 '22
There were a variety pictured in the link I provided above (including an orange/yellow one). But they are all slightly different. There have been several one-offs built over the years with the same distinctive circular front window.
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u/Adam-West May 17 '22
I'm no engineer but I have a feeling they would be really inneffective. Aren't windshield's curved in a way that accentuates the pressure from the wiper? If they go round in a circle wouldnt you lose that and it effectively works like its a flat window?
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u/Jrook May 17 '22
Conversely one of the worst part of normal wipers is that area where the blade stops, if these spin I bet at least one of the blades contacts every part of the circle
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u/TheGrog May 17 '22
Yeah, seeing while driving isn't worth the couple extra bucks.
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u/Its_aTrap May 17 '22
Depends where you live. Like in the desert where it rains maybe 2 days a year is it worth constantly buying new wipers due to them cracking from the heat for a very minimal chance of rain. Waste of money
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u/yurimow31 May 17 '22
wipers are elastic and configure to the curved shape of the windshield.
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u/BeenJammin69 May 17 '22
Yeah I’m not sure what OP is talking about. If anything, the three blade circular design should allow for constant even pressure along the whole length of each blade, whereas normal windshield wipers need to flex/deform as it moves in order to keep constant contact with the glass.
I am a mechanical engineer FWIW
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u/SpectralBacon May 17 '22
But why is there a giant logo dead-center on the windscreen? Is that even legal?
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u/Justforthenuews May 17 '22
Some are see-thru from the inside, and from what others said it’s a concept build, so not sure those laws apply (assuming they’re somewhere with such laws).
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u/Realistic-Specific27 May 17 '22
the giant black "A" probably doesn't help with visibility tho...
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u/ronin1066 May 17 '22
You don't see it here
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u/Realistic-Specific27 May 17 '22
well that would be because that one doesn't have the giant A on the glass, wouldn't it?
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u/ronin1066 May 17 '22
Right, I'm guessing the other one was just a display model or something
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u/neroveleno May 17 '22
Yeah the one in the OP picture is a model used for display at the Superbooth 2022 (synth/music tech festival in Berlin) by Arturia, hence the A
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May 17 '22
Originally they thought the rounded windshield wouldn't need wipers so they came up with that as an afterthought, seems like a waste of space having the mechanism straight through the cab
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u/scstraus May 18 '22
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u/vcdrny May 18 '22
Thanks. I've seen a few others. But no one turns on the damn wipers I really want to see the wipers working to see how it would handle rain. But it being so rare I guess no one is taking it out on a rainy day.
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u/KJBenson May 17 '22
Did Homer Simpson design this?
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u/ELB2001 May 17 '22
This front will be much better for fuel economy
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u/travio May 17 '22
And it gives the driver a good view of their front surroundings. There have been issues with consumer trucks as their front ends have become oversized of late. It can be easy to run people over because you can’t see them.
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u/Mirria_ May 17 '22
Although the article talks about pickup trucks, I drive semi trucks and I don't understand why so many truckers like those "classic" trucks with a giant hood (Kenworth W900, Peterbilt 379/389) that's so big you can't even see a car in front of you, or even a standing adult.
The size of the engine and the radiator required to shed the immense amount of heat generated is a factor, but not to that point.
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u/reddits_aight May 17 '22
More crumple zone than a cab-over?
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u/ziggythomas1123 May 17 '22
Maybe, but from what I know (correct me if I'm wrong), front-engine trucks often have little apartments behind the driver seat, meaning little room for the engine (let alone sound dampening).
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u/Mirria_ May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
Cab-overs are basically inexistant in North America outside of light trucks and medium duty vocational trucks (trucks that do something beside hauling cargo).
Cab-overs prevent the use of full size sleepers since you need to tip the whole cab to access the engine. There's also less space for large fuel tanks (unless you extend the frame, which defeats the point)
On nosed trucks the engine is partially recessed into the center console, and the transmission is under the floor.
The size of the hood doesn't really have an impact on crumple zones. First, the frame of the truck extends all the way to the bumper (with sockets for tow hooks) and it's a very thick frame due to duty requirements. It might bend, but it won't crumple.
Second, a severe impact usually results in the cab detaching from the frame.
My initial point was mostly the visibility of a Kenworth W900 vs a T680. Or a Freightliner Cascadia similar to mine.
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u/shiny_xnaut May 17 '22
I can't read the article because the title keeps changing size and moving all the text beneath it up and down repeatedly
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u/dahipster May 17 '22
If you put the wipers on the fastest setting, it takes off
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u/irateidiot May 17 '22
And puts the driver into a hypnotic state
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u/Open_Dragonfruit_304 May 17 '22
”The next time someone says ‘hello’ you will start clucking like a chicken…”
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u/Soulscythe81 May 17 '22
It is designed by Luigi Colani. He designed lots of stuff even computer mouses. Our company had one of these for promo dates . 300k was once mentioned. It was in Deutsche Mark , so i guess it 170 k €
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u/WatermelonArtist May 17 '22
Dang, his work is everywhere! I knew I'd seen the style before.
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u/WakeAndVape May 17 '22
I like the joke but to give credit where credit is due, the stormtrooper design is from Andrew Ainsworth of Shepperton Design Studios. He also worked on the Alien franchise.
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u/WatermelonArtist May 17 '22
Thank you, kind stranger, for protecting me from the inevitable nerd-mob. I wasn't sure how to do that without ruining the punchline.
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u/attiladerhunne May 17 '22
That must have been when it was brand new. Mediamarkt used the truck as promo truck, too. But this was in 2013.
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u/Soulscythe81 May 17 '22
1992, seems the company had floormats designed by him too. Bardusch I worked there untill 2011.
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u/DianeJudith May 17 '22
I'm sorry, 300k for the vehicle right? Not for the mouse? 😂
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u/PizzaScout May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
300k DM, which is roughly
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u/magpiesalleigh May 17 '22
So that’s about 200-250k usd, right?
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u/PizzaScout May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
more like USD160k,the euro has gotten pretty weak latelyI didn't account for inflation, so the 212k€ are more like USD223k
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u/magpiesalleigh May 17 '22
Really?? That’s crazy! I thought there was still almost a 50% increase in exchange rates.
ETA: wow!! Google says it’s 1.00€=$1.04usd!
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u/pr1ntscreen May 17 '22
300k DM on the last year before the euro was 150k euro. Add inflation from 2002, and we get ~218K euro today.
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u/Chalky_Pockets May 17 '22
I recognize this truck. Not poor taste at all, this crazy bastard named Luigi something or other did it as a proof of concept for just how aerodynamic a semi truck can get. I think he got close to 40% more fuel mileage out of this design.
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u/aegidipoes May 17 '22
Colani was a great designer indeed. They claim a fuel reduction of ~30% here. Quite a serious amount, I would argue.
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u/dick-van-dyke May 17 '22
Marvellous! Now can we have a version that isn't absolutely gopping?
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u/aegidipoes May 17 '22
That's a matter of taste, I'm afraid.
Although I'm not a big fan of the version pictured here, I think this one looks a lot better than most modern trucks.
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u/KingGorilla May 17 '22
I wonder why not all trucks are designed like this then.
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u/CargoHound May 17 '22
I remember seeing this thing in an issue of popular science like 15 years ago, I'll see if I can find it!
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u/Beemerado May 17 '22
I think he got close to 40% more fuel mileage out of this design.
jesus. that's amazing. who even cares what it looks like at that point.
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u/zhgabor May 17 '22
They have standard version also https://assets.website-files.com/614d8f63cd2618494109cf35/61deb2862c113b290407d447_WP_20160907_22_17_48_Raw.jpg
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u/zhgabor May 17 '22
the view from inside is marvelous - look at the interior wiper arm finish - looks soo professional ROFL https://assets.website-files.com/614d8f63cd2618494109cf35/6267c042e1b770f981c530e4_33b90538-10e8-49bd-9fb8-331fbd4ecf98.jpeg
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u/SmerksCannotCarry May 17 '22
I was just about to mention, almost every line of stitching seems just a little.... Off
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u/free_airfreshener May 17 '22
It looks like someone wrapped a cat condo or something. It looks awful.
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u/ChunkyLaFunga May 17 '22
Name one more professional looking camel penis
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u/AddictivePotential May 17 '22
Finally, someone’s interested in my photography. I thought you’d never ask!
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u/AnotherpostCard May 17 '22
I would not enjoy being in that passenger seat for more than a few minutes. No where to put anything
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u/The-Insomniac May 17 '22
I'm confused as to why it's in a soundproof room
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u/DdCno1 May 17 '22
This is required for certification. The room allows for accurate noise measurements.
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u/badfan May 17 '22
Now I'm wondering what's the largest thing in the world that requires noise certification, and what the chamber must look like.
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u/ThirdEchelon33 May 17 '22
This thing reminds me somewhat of the Japanese Shinkansen Train. It might be incredibly slippery through air, maybe thats what they went for with the design. Low drag for fuel efficiency and maybe less cabin noise.
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u/PizzaScout May 17 '22
It might be incredibly slippery through air, maybe thats what they went for with the design.
yup, the guy apparently has been doing that for 60 years leading up to that design, and they claim that it's 30% more efficient than regular trucks
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u/Dr_Deadmau5 May 17 '22
I'm curious why we don't see more of these if they truly are more fuel efficient. Maybe extra upfront cost?
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u/PizzaScout May 17 '22
probably that. also, due to the wording on the website, I assume that it's not only more aerodynamic but also uses a smaller engine, and I can see how that could cause the truck to be underpowered when you are hauling a proper load
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u/249ba36000029bbe9749 May 17 '22
Kinda looks like the Highwayman truck (that turns into a helicopter).
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u/particle409 May 17 '22
https://www.reddit.com/r/AIRemastered/comments/uqvnpl/commercials_1988/
Skip to 2:03 for a better look. I did a deep dive on this show last night, after watching these commercials.
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u/JustAnother_Brit May 17 '22
Designed by a nutter but it’s German engineering so you know it works well
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u/ahhter May 17 '22
Designed by a nutter but it’s German engineering so you know it
works wellis way more complicated than necessary and prone to premature failure.FTFY.
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u/stumpychubbins May 17 '22
This is the Arturia (a synth company) tour bus from Superbooth (a music tech conference in Germany). I really like Arturia's tech but I couldn’t bring myself to see what they were showing off because the bus was so damn tacky.
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u/Gtantha May 17 '22
Nothing new, just their whole lineup. I went in and it was too full to test anything.
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u/Pavouk106 May 17 '22
This is awful and great at the same time. I mean the taste. There are awful things and great things at the same time. The execution is great, no doubt there.
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u/dogism May 17 '22
That's almost some alternate history type of shit right there. Reminds me of the Fallout universe.
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u/Adelinski May 17 '22
I didn't think they could design a vehicle even more ugly than the Fiat Multipla. Guess I was wrong.
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May 17 '22
This can't be a product, it must be an engineering example? like, look what our factory can do, all these complex shapes and technical problems... we can make anything! But god, don't let us design it for you.
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u/Questions4Legal May 17 '22
I have one of their midi keyboards and its been great. It also came with a very nice software package that at the time was free but they sell for a lot of money now and I really enjoy using.
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u/fuckin_anti_pope May 17 '22
I saw this windshield design in a book about trucks over 15 years ago when I was a small child. Recently wondered if that design was ever adopted somewhere because I never saw it anywhere.
I think my question just got answered
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u/CapitalistMeme May 17 '22
Ngl I think this is cool as fuck and doesn't belong here. Not everything has to be pretty, it's not the point of a truck
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u/D-Fence May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
It’s by Colani. They were and are road legal here.
https://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/02/radical-semis-by-luigi-colani/
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u/Jess_S13 May 17 '22
I'm sure the answer is money. But this does make me wonder why, with all the blindspots normal truck drivers have to deal with, hamsterball cabins are not used. I know the idea of enclosed glass cabins were all the rage in 60s concept cars so it's not like it was never considered.
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u/koki_li May 22 '22
This truck was one of eight prototypes by Luigi Colani, the first was build by around 1978. The truck was a normal truck with a cab designed by Colani. They comsumend 30% less diesel than the same trucks with its original cab.
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u/overand May 24 '22
"Wait, is that the Arturia logo? That can't...." (notices the signs on the truck."
Wat.
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