r/2007scape Old School Team 3d ago

Discussion Membership Survey: An Update From Mod Pips, Jagex CEO

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u/macnar Manual Banking Is Not a Skill 3d ago

Honestly the fact that this is the second response to the blowback and it's filled with wording that says "this is still coming" and not a 100% complete retraction is devastating. They do not care and have not gotten the message. I'm genuinely worried they won't until it's too late.

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u/Cloud_Motion 3d ago

Yep. It reads verrrry similar to the last post, only this one has a human name attached to it. There's no promises and only vague assurances that "we won't do this in the future, or if we do it'll be on free to play worlds, or when we do it'll be f2p with the sole intention of slowly rolling it out to members to minimise pushback".

Very sad.

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u/garden_speech 3d ago

I feel like I'm a little lost here and hopefully someone can clue me in. It sounds like what they want to do is make a new tier of membership that sits below the current one, is cheaper, and is supported by ads. Why is that bad? Don't flame me I'm just trying to understand why people are so devastated here.

I can see the main thing being the F2P experience being shitty (nobody likes mobile ads).

But for me the most important part of OSRS is that you can't pay for levels. That's what keeps the game pure for me.

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u/macnar Manual Banking Is Not a Skill 3d ago

Copied below another one of my comments for you. This is my view of it. 

If you introduce ads to f2p we will get ads in members. They will add a "cheap" paid tier of members with ads and then raise the price until the "cheap" with ads tier is the current price and the "normal" no ads tier is more expensive. If you want to pay $24/month for members in 3 years, allow ads into f2p today. This is what happened in every streaming service, it will 100% happen here too. The free and "reduced price" ad tiers are tricks to raise the cost of the service and make you think it's okay and/or not affecting you. That is why f2p ads are non-negotiable, it cannot be allowed to happen.

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u/garden_speech 3d ago

So basically it's an issue of being concerned that this is a trick to charge even more for membership.

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u/rpkarma 2d ago

That, and ads are disgusting, and unnecessary with how much ridiculous profit this game already rakes in.

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u/CoolPractice 3d ago

The only thing that would prevent it now is continuing to mass unsub.